Cops taser 87yo woman while gardening with a knife.

[DetlefK]

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/georgia-cops-shock-elderly-woman-taser-using-knife-cut-dandelions/

An 87-year-old woman was out cutting dandelions with a knife when an employee of a Boys and Girls club called the police, telling them she refused to leave.

“She’s old so she can’t get around too well, but,” the employee said on the 911 recording. “Looks like she’s walking around looking for something, like, vegetation to cut down or something. There’s a bag, too.”

...

Officers arrived and responded to the situation by holding her at gunpoint, shocking her with a taser and keeping her in jail for hours, the Associated Press reports.

The department’s police chief defended officers’ actions, claiming that given the situation, this was the least aggressive use of force.

Here's an even less aggressive use of force: One cop distracts her from the front by talking to her. Another cop ambushes her from behind, grabbing her wrist and wrestling the knife out of the hand of that frail 87yo woman.

Or how about an even less aggressive use of force: Instead of pointing your guns at the woman, how about pointing at the knife with your fingers and signalling her to put the knife away?

[imanamerican63]

1. This story is missing one thing!

Where did it happen and what police department was involved?

[Roland99]

2. From the referenced news article within...

CHATSWORTH, Ga. – A Georgia police chief said an officer was justified in using a Taser to stun an 87-year-old woman after she didn't obey commands to drop a knife in her hand.


Martha Al-Bishara was charged with criminal trespass and obstructing an officer Friday, when police held her at gunpoint before bringing her to the ground with a jolt from the electrified prongs of a stun gun.

Relatives said Al-Bishara doesn't speak English and was merely out cutting dandelions with a kitchen knife near her home in Chatsworth, about 85 miles (136 kilometers) north of Atlanta.

[imanamerican63]

5. Thx, in original post, no mention of this.

I was beginning to think that it was a bogus story.

[geardaddy]

29. And there's the rub

She's a Muslim(?) immigrant. If this was a white old lady, it wouldn't have happened.

[Ms. Toad]

44. She sure looks like a white lady. n/t

[Lochloosa]

60. She was an old white lady....my grandmother had a head covering like that.

And she cooked dandelion greens...

An old Florida Cracker here...

[Blue_true]

64. Never heard of them. How do dandelion greens taste? nt

[Lochloosa]

65. Bitter if not cooked right. Bitter if cooked right. Stronger than Collards.

[Submariner]

67. After washed and refrigerated, great in salad with oil and vinegar

Dandelion greens can have a bitter taste, but mixed with spinach leaves or other greens tastes great. Not worth a tasing though.

[Old Vet]

69. Theres a very old man at the end of my road who I sometimes cut his grass...........

His way of thanking me is to give me a bottle of his homemade DANDELION wine, Some of the best wine Ive ever had.

[Lochloosa]

103. My grandfather made wine from the pears that grew in his yard.

I would put that up against any Cali wine. And it would knock your socks off...

[DeminPennswoods]

101. Babushka

is what that's called in western Pennsylvania. IIRC, the word is Russian meaning "old lady", "grandma".

Back in Bob Prince's heyday announcing Pittsburgh baseball games, he used to encourage fans to wave their babuskas to rally the Pirates.

[Lochloosa]

104. That's the word. Thanks!

[DeminPennswoods]

105. Saw plenty of women wearing them

when I was a kid, but rarely now. I think many of them were immigrants from Eastern Europe in the 1890s and early 1900s like my grandparents.

[lark]

75. I'm sure the fact that she's Musim has nothing to do with this travesty!

I really hate most pigs, especially the racist white nationalist versions that treat minorities like trash.

[pnwmom]

90. She didn't speak English, so she didn't understand their orders. n/t

[whistler162]

99. You can tell her religion just by looking at her?

Man, you are good!

[lark]

108. Her name.

Most Muslim women in America cover their heads with scarves and her last name is Arabic and I bet she's darker skinned with dark eyes.

[SamKnause]

8. Georgia.

Chatsworth Police Department

Some articles say it was a kitchen knife.

Some articles say it was a garden knife.

She bent down and cut a dandelion to show them what she was doing.

She had a plastic bag to put the dandelions in.

She didn't speak any English.

Our police are a disgrace.

I hate them and I fear them.

[Lindsay]

10. Fear is what they want.

"Comply or die."

This is not good.

(But you knew that. Most of us know that.)

[malaise]

18. I knew she wasn't white

[dixiegrrrrl]

85. I'd like to know more about the person who called.

Given the spreading practice of calling cops on people of the "wrong" persuasion.

[treestar]

111. Yeah I'm surprised this

One isn’t about who called. I guess the tasing made the story about the cops.

[pnwmom]

91. What do you mean? Her photo looks white. She looks like an old white granny

wearing a scarf, just like mine used to.

[RightiswrongTn]

47. Not surprised..I live in Tn..not far from there..

I wanna leave this fucked up country, can't stand where we are as a society..it's a damn disgrace. Never been ashamed of being American until now. People around here are stupid..plain and simple. Blackburn will win, and we all lose. Morons are at the helm.

[SamKnause]

56. I want to leave this fucked up planet.

I am just sick of it all.

I am sick of all the hate.

I am sick of all the poverty.

I am sick of all the racists.

I am sick of our corrupt government.

I am sick of our cruel and evil police.

I am just sick of it all.

[Hortensis]

70. Well, go read something nice then.

And take a walk and look around to put your head in better order.

You do realize that 10,000 nice. normal events are never reported for every one bad one? And that in this case we need the rest of the story for balance?

I'm in Georgia, we have a lot of authoritarians here, the bad cops and kangaroo courts expected with an authoritarian populace, predatory municipalities trying to raise money to keep their towns going after crippling tax cuts, and on and on. But cops don't exactly normally tase 87-year-old women of any color, and even POC, a third of the population, aren't really afraid to leave their homes.

Btw, schools have started. Maybe wander by one as the children are arriving. Happy scenes of normality guaranteed to make you smile.

[tavernier]

3. I want to see pictures of the faces of these heroes.

They need to go on all the talk shows to tell us how they defended their city from this crazed, knife wielding criminal.

Oh please oh please!

[Lochloosa]

13. Hardened Criminal....it was justifiable force.

[steve2470]

20. OMG Public Enemy Number One !!!!!!!!

[SummerSnow]

51. Omg, she looks so dangerous

[dalton99a]

4. "She had a small kitchen knife and was cutting dandelions in a lot next to her house"

http://www.dailycitizen.news/news/local_news/chatsworth-police-chief-defends-use-of-taser-on--year/article_c61776ae-9f0a-11e8-8d88-8f2ab976f277.html

There is a partial fence on the Boys and Girls Club property; the fence is not completed on the back side of the property that is adjacent to Seventh Avenue. Al-Bishara and her 96-year-old husband live directly across the opening on the other side of Seventh Avenue.

“She had a small kitchen knife and was cutting dandelions in a lot next to her house,” said Solomon Douhne. “She was not threatening any kids at the Boys and Girls Club."

Al-Bishara’s daughter and granddaughter arrive shortly after the Taser was used, the bodycam footage shows, but emergency medical personnel were not called and none of the officers told family members Al-Bishara had been Tased, the family members said.

Al-Bishara has lived in the area for 22 years and along with her husband became a naturalized citizen in 2001. A neighbor said she was shocked to learn what had happened.

“This woman don’t bother nobody or nothing,” said Elizabeth Usrey, who lives on Seventh Avenue. “They keep their stuff clean and don’t bother anyone. I don’t really know what happened, but the woman wouldn’t hurt a fly. Using a Taser on someone that age is ridiculous.”

Al-Bishara and her husband enjoy walking around the neighborhood, Usrey said, and when they harvest vegetables in their garden on their property they share them with neighbors.

[Leghorn21]

24. 911 call from your link:

...
911: But she came at someone with a knife though, right, or did she just have it?

Caller: No, she just bringed the knife onto the property in her hand. She didn’t try to attack anybody or anything. We haven't closed in our fence in the back yet and she walked through there.

Caller: If you’re able to send anybody, it’s on the side of the property, not the front.

911: Which side is it on?

Caller: If you’re facing Boys and Girls Club it’s on the right down on that next street over. There’s an open fence in the back.

911: OK, so she’s on the right side of the building which is going to be, like, on the south of it, right?

Caller: Yeah, down the street and it’s a fence on the left.

911: What is she wearing?

Caller: A blue dress with a brown Muslim hat-looking thing (inaudible).

....

- and there ya have it

!!!!!!!!!BROWN MUSLIM HAT-LOOKING THING!!!!!!!!!

[geardaddy]

30. "No, she just bringed the knife onto the property in her hand."

Bringed? FFS.

[mtngirl47]

35. Muslim Hat Looking thing.....Also known as a SCARF!

I ask myself every day---what have we become?!

[lunasun]

57. Asshole boys and girls club . Imagine what they taught the kids that day

[Tucker08087]

107. My grandmother was Hungarian

She wore that Muslim hat looking thing all the time, even though she was Catholic. She called it a babushka, and mostly wore it when her hair was wet or not “done.” She dug dandelions, too. Depending on the season, for flowers to make tea or put in salads, in early spring for greens, cooked or in salads, when they went to seed in her own yard to prevent them from taking over. Evidently, the roots can also be used to make a type of coffee when you are desperate.
I’m thinking if someone had offered her a proper spade and rake, she would have happily handed over the knife. The thought of an old woman being tazed for a gardening snafu makes me want to be sick.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. The full story here, without the Raw Story clickbait:

http://www.dailycitizen.news/news/local_news/chatsworth-police-chief-defends-use-of-taser-on--year/article_c61776ae-9f0a-11e8-8d88-8f2ab976f277.html

[MagickMuffin]

9. Thank you so much, not a rawstory fan

since they steal content from other sources!

[Iggo]

115. Yeah, RawStory pages are thick with bullshit.

And you're right, the content is from elsewhere.

[Beaverhausen]

41. So the 911 caller told them she didn't speak English

why wasn't that information passed on to the officers?

[Lee-Lee]

62. That's often a huge problem especially in bigger cities

I was lucky enough to work in a small rural county, there were two dispatchers that answered 911 and dispatched police, fire and EMS. It was a workload but they worked hard and because it was one person who took the call and dispatched us they could feed us all the relevant info.

Go to larger places and you will have one group of people who only answer 911 calls and they put the info in a computer that pops up on the screen of the dispatchers for police, fire or EMS. So a lot can get lost in the process. It’s far easier to get info over when the same person hears the caller and tells the dispatcher than when on person heats the caller, has to type it on a screen, someone else reads it and then they relay it.

[cloudbase]

71. If, as reported, she's a naturalized citizen,

then she should be conversant in English.

[2naSalit]

76. according to whom?

[Mariana]

93. Maybe she was, when she became a citizen.

Maybe she had English and has since forgotten it. She's old, you know.

[betsuni]

98. +1

[treestar]

112. True though there is

An exception for long term permanent residents.

[Stuart G]

48. Thanks for posting this...After reading the above, it is even more obscene ..Why?

You get the full details of the police chief defending his cops. It implies that he, the Chief of Police was the one who enacted the taser on on 87 year old woman. Now that is not clear to me..But the defense of the police is clear: this 87 year old woman was not following orders quickly and deserved what happened. No apology, no regret...etc.

[sl8]

59. Thanks for the link to a better source. n/t

[uponit7771]

7. Yep, leadership enables the unprofessional thugs to act like this

[Judi Lynn]

11. Everyone involved needs to apologize to this lady. From the article:

But the woman’s family says she presented no threat. They claim she simply couldn’t understand the officers’ demands to drop the knife because she doesn’t speak English. She’s now nervous about going outside.

“She is still repeating the incident over in her mind and telling us she didn’t mean for this to happen and apologizing that she didn’t want to bring this on us. She is having trouble sleeping and is stressed,” said Martha Douhne, a great-granddaughter.

Another relative pointed out that the officers could have handled the encounter without the use of any force.

So damned sad.

[lpbk2713]

12. Check the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list.

She sounds like a bad character.





They could have killed her if she had a cardio implant.

[sdfernando]

45. she could have died just from falling to the ground

WTF is WRONG WITH THESE COPS?!?!?!?!

NAZI BASTARDS!

[lpbk2713]

50. That's true.

If she broke her hip it would be the beginning of the end.

[elias7]

96. Actually that's no longer true

Since the advent of early surgery and rapid mobilization, the mortality associated with hip fractures in the elderly is no longer a thing.

[Stuart G]

14. Just to let everyone know...Chatsworth Georgia ..

Chatsworth is a city in Murray County, Georgia, United States. It is part of the Dalton, Georgia Metropolitan Statistical Area. The population was 3,531 at the 2000 census and 4,299 in 2010. The city is the county seat of Murray County....This town is in far northern part of Georgia.. Approx. 30 miles southeast of Chattanooga Tenn.

and the award for 2nd biggest liar in the country goes to.....................................................
.........................the police chief of Chatsworth Georgia...who said:

The department’s police chief defended officers’ actions, claiming that given the situation," this was the least aggressive use of force".

Unknown town before.....now known forever as a "very mean town"

[marybourg]

15. How does a "city" that tiny even afford

a police department? That's 1/10 the size of my housing development!

[Stuart G]

16. Don't know how they afford police dept,I know this:"It is a stupid police dept."

[druidity33]

83. my small town of 1,500

employs 3 officers, a Chief (32 hrs) and two officers at 20 hours a week. The cost is on our warrant at every yearly town meeting. The Chief makes $41,000 a year... his subordinates 22 a year. Seems reasonable, no?

[lpbk2713]

17. Named after a Dobie Gillis character.

No, not really.


(Showing my age, I know.)

[pansypoo53219]

84. i am going w/ bonehead county.

[steve2470]

19. This is just absolutely terrible

They couldn't spend an extra 15 minutes using sign language to communicate ? Oooooh she was such a threat to those poor officers at 87 years of age!!!! She spoke Arabic. They couldn't maybe call someone who could get an Arabic translator there ?

Talk about cowardly officers who are just ITCHING to use their Tasers. Just disgusting.

[LiberalLovinLug]

33. How about the officers simply walk up to her

In a friendly manner, and indicate they want her to give them the knife? Or simply overpower this 87 year old, even with a knife. Aren't they given any training?

She should sue.

[steve2470]

37. I think within a minute or two, even with sign language....

she would have understood that they wanted the knife and would have handed it over.

She should sue and the officers need to be fired.

[treestar]

113. One of them did throw his

Knife to the ground as an illustration

[steve2470]

114. ok that's good

They needed to be more patient and either get an interpreter or use Google Translate. I think an interpreter would be better. What was the huge hurry with this 87 year old woman ? I don't get it. She was no threat to anyone.

[Hekate]

21. How about these grown men just learn to use their words? How about they use their brains ...

...to assess the situation? How about they just get fired?

[Stuart G]

22. Firing these cops is the ONLY solution. Too stupid to know or learn anything...

[steve2470]

23. agreed nt

[RobinA]

25. This Story

including the justifications given by the police chief just goes to show what a different page the police are on than your average citizen. I mean, I know police work is dangerous and they just want to go home at night in one piece, but good grief. Grandma, who can't get around too well, in a headscarf harvesting dandelions with a kitchen knife? Although, I will say, anybody who voluntarily consumes dandelions is tougher than they look. Those things are nasty. Oh wait, maybe she was the innocent looking front for a clandestine bootleg dandelion wine operation. Pretty clever! At least until the crack team of Chatsworth police officers showed up and saw through the ruse.

[bettyellen]

38. She was probably weeding since she kept an adjacent garden....

You use a knife to get down to cut at the base of the roots. Those things spread like crazy if your neighbors don’t take care of them.

[samnsara]

26. OH HELL..ONE GOOD BREATH WOULD HAVE KNOCKED HER OVER

...this is getting ridiculous

ps.....my dad was a regular Euell Theophilus Gibbons.....who was an outdoorsman and proponent of eating wild foods during the 1960s. Dad used to take us to the parking lot and show us what weeds were edible!

[Eliot Rosewater]

27. They didnt shoot her? Her lucky day I guess

[Stuart G]

28. Question, could this event happen in England, France, Japan, Australia or other countries?

...even Russia?....just asking...what do you think?

[mwooldri]

43. Unlikely in England.

Cos there's this thing called community policing. The police officer responding to the emergency call would have likely patrolled that area for a while and know a few people around the area.

It would also be likely that people would know of that lady first and wouldn't have called a police emergency in the first place. I'm guilty of this but we really need to get to know our neighbours.

[Mariana]

92. This is a little town of a few thousand people.

She lived there for 22 years, and the neighbours apparently did know her. It makes sense, if she was in the habit of foraging in the neighbourhood - that's the kind of activity that's unusual enough that people notice. For that reason, it's a little hard to believe none of these cops knew anything about her in a town this size. Even if they really didn't, they could easily have left one officer to watch her and go knock on a few doors. But they couldn't be bothered with all that.

[niyad]

31. an even less aggressive response? do NOTHING, you assholes, you have got to be FUCKING

kidding me!! tazing an 87 year old woman gardening? what the FUCK is the matter with you incompetent jackasses? and the idiot who called the cops in the first place?

I just saw her picture--really scary--JFC.

pity we cannot fire those cops.

[steve2470]

34. Arabic

if you scroll up, you can see her mug shot.

[niyad]

39. I saw her pic--oohhhhh, sooooooo scary.

[steve2470]

42. yes the whole thing is 10000000% ridiculous

If they will do this to an 87 year old Arabic lady who was NO threat to them, you can imagine what they would do to PoC.

[heaven05]

32. what can be expected

from tools of this fascist state, called amerika?

[C Moon]

36. What frigging idiot called 911 on her?

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[dalton99a]

49. A Boys and Girls Club employee.

[C Moon]

58. Now that I think about it, she was walking around with a knife and wouldn't leave...

I guess for the safety of any children they had to call.

[Mariana]

94. It doesn't read like the employees asked her to leave

so it's not like she refused to go. She was just there, and they called the cops.

[Moral Compass]

40. Amazing

There is something wrong with a lot of the people that are police.

That this happened defies logic and belief. It is in the truest sense of the word, incredible.

An old woman is cutting dandelions with a knife. The first moment of incredulity is that someone thought that the appropriate response was to call the police. Dandelions are a weed. If someone wanted to weed my yard with a knife I wouldn’t call the police.

Then when the police show up they find an 87 year old woman who cannot speak English and they decided that since she won’t leave to Taze her and arrest her. 2nd moment of incredulity.

And, for the final stunner. The senior leadership of this police department defend what happened and tell the world that the responding cops were restrained and used the “least amount of force”.

AYFKM?

WTF?

Guess this poor old woman is lucky they didn’t open fire.

The police are being trained to use overwhelming force in almost every instance. This is insane.

[3Hotdogs]

46. An even better less use of agressing force. Leave her the fuck, alone.

But then they wouldn't get to play with their toys.

[NCTraveler]

52. Andy Griffith would have had her over for dinner within an hour.

Using nothing but his voice and charm.

[Generic Other]

53. Never use a garden knife!

You use one of these Japanese perennial sickles.

[sl8]

81. Use the right garden knife:

Hori-hori

[John Fante]

54. The Trump-supporting arsonist who started the Holy Fire

didn't get fucking tazed. An 87-year-old lady, wearing a "Muslim looking thing", did.

Fuck this country. Seriously.

[RightiswrongTn]

55. [e-mail]

Tell the Bastards what you think..fuck Chatsworth PD

[sl8]

61. Regarding your last point:

Last edited Wed Aug 15, 2018, 07:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Regarding your question about why he didn't use pantomime, from the Daily Citizen-News article:

...
He said the goal was to not have to use deadly force. At one point, he took his pocket knife out and threw it on the ground, indicating what he wanted the woman to do with her knife.
...

Still doesn't explain why three, presumably physically fit, police officers couldn't handle an 87 year old woman without resorting to a stun gun.

[Lee-Lee]

63. Because an 87 year old women can still kill you with a knife

I wish more people would experience the kind of use of force training needed to understand just how dangerous it is to get close to someone with a knife.

I wouldn’t have handled this like they did. But the expectation they should just walk up and trap her or the knife is very unrealistic also. That’s a very, very fast way to get cut when you don’t know the mentality or intent of the person.

[LanternWaste]

66. If you're in a wheelchair, sure. Otherwise, it's conjecture and supposition.

"Because an 87 year old women can still kill you with a knife..."

If you're in a wheelchair, blind and quadriplegic, sure. Otherwise, it's simply more conjecture and supposition reinforcing your very consistent narrative.

But I get it... we desperately reach for that which validates our biases, regardless of how absurd our allegations are.

Good Christ...

[Lee-Lee]

77. You should try it sometime

Look, I’m not saying that what these guys did was justified. It was way over the top.

But it very unrealistic to act like they should have just walked up and grabbed the knife also. Even a weak person with a knife can do great harm very fast.

The right answer is somewhere between the unrealistic claims some here are making that they should have just walked up and taken the knife and what they did do.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

72. There's no claims she was menacing anyone or the cops with the knife.

I think they could have gone a little easier on an confused 87 year old.

[Lee-Lee]

73. I do too. But the people acting like it's no big deal to just walk up and grab the knife

are off base.

The right answer was somewhere between “just walk up and take the knife” that is an unrealistic expectation and what these guys did that was way over what was needed.

[drray23]

78. Nonsense.

Police in the UK deal with people brandishing knives all the time. I would not hesitate trying to disarm a 87 yr old who has a knife. If, as a police officer you cant move fast enough to dodge a knife from a 87 yr old you should get better training.

[sl8]

80. I wasn't suggesting that anyone get close to her.

My thinking was rather the opposite, they should have kept their distance and keep trying to communicate.

Look, analyzing these things based on a newspaper article is a losing proposition. If they decide to release the video, we'll have more to go on.

That said, and based on the limited information we have, it doesn't sound good for the cops. They were in a vacant lot, so presumably had plenty of room to maneuver and no bystanders in immediate danger. Also presumably, there was no need to rush. There were three of them, presumably all much faster and more agile than the woman. There was no mention of aggressive behavior on the woman''s part, but if, just if, her old woman brain did suddenly switch from dandelion cutting mode to cop slicing mode, as old folks brains are wont to do, I think its pretty likely that they could manage to keep away from her long enough for one of them to then tase her.

Also, call me cynical, but having that small police department perform its own investigation of an excessive force scenario involving their own chief does not fill me with confidence.

[DetlefK]

89. Harm and cut, Yes, but not kill.

She has neither the training nor the speed nor the body-strength to kill someone who already expects an attack.

[Mariana]

95. But a police officer might get a boo boo.

We can't have the police officer getting a boo boo.

Anyway, they didn't have to get the knife away from her in the first place, they didn't need to get near her at all. No one was in danger when they arrived. They could have had one officer watch her while the other knocked on a few doors or made a few calls to find out who she is. It really shouldn't be hard to figure out, she's a long-time resident of the neighbourhood who forages for dandelions. It's actually rather shocking that none of the police in this little bitty town knew anything about her.

[betsuni]

97. +1

[Lee-Lee]

100. Contains her longer was probably the right call they should have made

And yes, you can get injured very badly, and even killed, by an 87 year old with a knife trying to take it from them.

It can take one small move to go from “like just walk up and take this knife away” to getting cut on the wrist/arm so bad you lose a ton of blood and you have such bad damage that the use of your hand it limited for the rest of your life, ending your career and greatly limiting your ability to do lots of other jobs. I know someone who had exactly that happen. It was a routine call, nobody knew the guy had a knife hidden up his sleeve. That was the last day he worked law enforcement, it tools years of surgeries and therapy to get him back to where he could do a lot of simple tasks.

Best option would have been to try and contain her to the spot longer until she either put down the knife or

[Buzz cook]

68. A smart phone and google translate

Would have prevented this.

[steve2470]

82. yep excellent idea nt

[maxsolomon]

74. STOP SNITCHING

why do you have to call the cops? just go out an tell her she can't take your fucking weeds.

[Solly Mack]

79. Trump will try to have her deported now.

He's going after naturalized citizens too.

[uponit7771]

86. Nah, she's white ...

[Solly Mack]

87. But she speaks Arabic and is originally from Syria

So, he just might.

Trump doesn't exactly limit his bigotry. Mrs Al-Bishara is still the other to him.

[uponit7771]

88. +1

[Drifter]

102. What the god damn fuck ...

My first thought would be to go and help her.

Cheers
Drifter

[WePurrsevere]

106. That would have been mine too. A smile and

Having a friendly tone can work wonders.

This was just so very wrong the way it was handled by the person who made the call and the cops. This wasn't even in a big city. It says the neighbours all knew her, the cops should have tried knocking on a couple of doors first.

Once upon a time in the US cops in villages and cities walked a beat, rode it on horseback or biker it. They got to know most of the people who lived in their areas. They made it their business to do so. Maybe we need to go back to doing that again.

[saidsimplesimon]

109. The image

of "ugly Americans" and their police brutality against minorities, the elderly and poor is on full display for the world to see.

Are these the values being taught at these Boys and Girls club? Those who reported her and the police who responded with unnecessary violence deserve a boycott, a protest and condemnation. imo

[LiberalFighter]

110. Too many bad police.