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brush

(53,782 posts)
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 08:56 PM Aug 2018

Sanders was just on "All in" with Ali Velshi hosting for Chris Hayes.

Velshi quoted a 538 figure that Democratic Party supported candidates are winning 89% or races against OR and democratic socialist candidates.

Sanders responded that they had more money backing them and maybe half ran unopposed.

Who's the enemy, for God's sake?

What happened to focusing on defeating repugs?

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Sanders was just on "All in" with Ali Velshi hosting for Chris Hayes. (Original Post) brush Aug 2018 OP
This theme started yesterday AM Wellstone ruled Aug 2018 #1
Wouldn't be a news story if a growing share of candidates weren't calling for new leadership brooklynite Aug 2018 #22
This was my first thought get the red out Aug 2018 #27
Maybe time to look into where Sanders backed Pacs are stashing their cash Wwcd Aug 2018 #2
That's a very important point, which I haven't seen pointed out elsewhere. OnDoutside Aug 2018 #23
It centers around Justice Democrats PAC & how they funnel their donations to other political groups Wwcd Aug 2018 #28
I'm surprised the FEC aren't investigating this, or maybe they are ? OnDoutside Aug 2018 #30
No surprise, the MSM has been trying to push the divisionary bullshit among Democrats for a while still_one Aug 2018 #3
So when Dems win it's cuz they have more money, but when OR wins, they have a better message? Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #4
How candidates endorsed by selected people and groups have fared in 2018.. Cha Aug 2018 #11
Yeah, but but EffieBlack Aug 2018 #12
lol oasis Aug 2018 #13
Right...like you haven't heard the very valid argument by now that you'll just gloss over to gloat. JCanete Aug 2018 #20
Interesting. So the 47% success rate they were bragging about last week was a lie? Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #18
Oh yeah, shocking. Cha Aug 2018 #29
"Maybe"? He doesn't know? Maybe Cha Aug 2018 #5
What difference does it make if we are trying to be united for 2018? What ever Democrat wins we wasupaloopa Aug 2018 #6
Bernie Has Lots Of Money Me. Aug 2018 #7
Gee wiz, another Bernie thread Power 2 the People Aug 2018 #8
He's always on the news shows. Gotta keep relevant for 2020. brush Aug 2018 #9
Yeah.. if he wouldn't be on tv all the time.. Cha Aug 2018 #10
You complete me ... EffieBlack Aug 2018 #14
LOL! Cha Aug 2018 #16
Ha! betsuni Aug 2018 #15
.. Cha Aug 2018 #17
Where's the enemy? The reporting that is ignoring that very obvious reality, or Sanders for pointing JCanete Aug 2018 #19
Hooray! You hit it brush. What happened to fighting repugs. lovemydogs Aug 2018 #21
Here is the interview in full SkyDancer Aug 2018 #24
He is desperately trying to stay relevant. LexVegas Aug 2018 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2018 #26
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. This theme started yesterday AM
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 09:00 PM
Aug 2018

on NBC/MSNBC along with the Pelosi Bull Crap. Shades of 2016,got to make a horse race. Sells crap.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
2. Maybe time to look into where Sanders backed Pacs are stashing their cash
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 09:01 PM
Aug 2018

If its not going to the Sanders candidates, where's it going?

And yes, the Pacs do have A LOT of money..so?
Where's it going?

If his candidates are losing races because they have less funds than their opponants, as he claims, then where'd all the Pac money go?

Bernie should really be calling for accountability into the Pacs that endorse his candidates.

He should demand it.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
28. It centers around Justice Democrats PAC & how they funnel their donations to other political groups
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 01:04 PM
Aug 2018

they created rather than to the candidates they endorse.
Hmmm...

This isn't the first I've read about this. Questions are being asked & rightfully so.

Here's the best read on what has raised eyebrows .


https://medium.com/@investigator_21314/are-the-justice-democrats-a-money-scam-to-defraud-progressives-63abbcf71be2

SNIP
JD is a PAC and it’s financial status can be found here:

https://www.fec.gov/data/committee/C00630665/

This shows they had collected $923,803.95 (in June 2017), of which they have spent $499,634.87. That left them with $424,169.08 cash on hand.

Interesting is where their money went: they have paid a large amount of money to Brand New Congress and some money to ActBlue Technologies, Inc (run by Zack Exley, one of the founders of JD).

In March 2017 JD announced it had teamed up with Brand New Congress.

So it appears that most of the money JD collects from donors, is funnelled to Brand New Congress, LLC and booked as “strategic consulting”.

MORE...

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It appears they are billing new candidates for their endorsements.
And more.

Figures that Cenk was at the center of the PAC organization.
Red flag right there.
He is an old Republican


still_one

(92,204 posts)
3. No surprise, the MSM has been trying to push the divisionary bullshit among Democrats for a while
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 09:05 PM
Aug 2018

now, and of course they decide to leverage the candidate that doesn't want to be identified as a Democrat.

I actually don't blame Sanders, but the f**king media.

Sanders is going to do what Sanders has always done, but the f**king media is always trying to stir this s**t up



Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
4. So when Dems win it's cuz they have more money, but when OR wins, they have a better message?
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 09:06 PM
Aug 2018

Is that what we're supposed to believe? Isn't it just possible that hardcore Democrats remember 2016, and how OR was born?

Cha

(297,274 posts)
11. How candidates endorsed by selected people and groups have fared in 2018..
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 11:09 PM
Aug 2018

Dems Win because they're Better Candidates..

Tarheel
 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
20. Right...like you haven't heard the very valid argument by now that you'll just gloss over to gloat.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 02:46 AM
Aug 2018

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
18. Interesting. So the 47% success rate they were bragging about last week was a lie?
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 02:28 AM
Aug 2018

Color me shocked!!! SHOCKED I SAY!!!!!

Cha

(297,274 posts)
5. "Maybe"? He doesn't know? Maybe
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 09:16 PM
Aug 2018

he shouldn't make statements he doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
6. What difference does it make if we are trying to be united for 2018? What ever Democrat wins we
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 09:42 PM
Aug 2018

should support her/him Whether they were OR or not we need to win the seat.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
7. Bernie Has Lots Of Money
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 10:28 PM
Aug 2018

but his wife is handing it over to her son and who knows what else it is being blown on aside from that and Tad Devine

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
19. Where's the enemy? The reporting that is ignoring that very obvious reality, or Sanders for pointing
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 02:44 AM
Aug 2018

it out when people attempt to throw cold water on the movement he's a part of? What exactly do you think the answer should be to that kind of question?

lovemydogs

(575 posts)
21. Hooray! You hit it brush. What happened to fighting repugs.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 04:33 AM
Aug 2018

I am so sick of those who obsessed on hating Sanders and people who want to move left. Fighting with those who do not love Clintonism and centrism. Who feel it is time to move on to something else and energize the party.
I'm sick of this idea that those who are progressive are not real democrats.
And so very sick of focusing on hating progressives instead of fighting against repugs.
Afterall, it is not progressives who are the enemy. It is republicans

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