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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRCP poll averages: Obama/Romney = Obama/McCain
RCP poll averages: Obama/Romney = Obama/McCain
by Rolandz
Real Clear Politics has an interesting page that compares the state of the presidential race in national polls from 2008 with those of 2012 on a daily basis. These numbers represent the averages of all polls on that particular date.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/election_2012_vs_election_2008_four_years_ago_today.html
And what do we find?
That the standing between Obama and Romney today is almost exactly the same as the standing between Obama and McCain in mid-August of that year.
On August 9, 2008, the numbers were Obama 46.9, McCain 43.3.
On August 9, 2012, the numbers are Obama 47.8, Romney 43.9.
In fact, Obama's lead against Romney is slightly larger than his lead over McCain, 3.9% vs. 3.6%.
And this is true for virtually all of July as well.
Conclusion? The dissatisfaction with the economy does not seem to be translating into an abandonment of the incumbent by the voters.
A few caveats: the chart doesn't account for voter enthusiasm, which might work against Obama, but it does include Rasmussen polls in the averages, which may mean Obama's numbers are actually marginally higher than those listed here.
Take it for what it's worth. I realize it's still early and that the state-by-state race is what really counts. But I think that this is a good indication that Obama is in a pretty decent position going into November. It certainly beats having it be the other way around.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/09/1118291/-RCP-poll-averages-Obama-Romney-Obama-McCain
by Rolandz
Real Clear Politics has an interesting page that compares the state of the presidential race in national polls from 2008 with those of 2012 on a daily basis. These numbers represent the averages of all polls on that particular date.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/election_2012_vs_election_2008_four_years_ago_today.html
And what do we find?
That the standing between Obama and Romney today is almost exactly the same as the standing between Obama and McCain in mid-August of that year.
On August 9, 2008, the numbers were Obama 46.9, McCain 43.3.
On August 9, 2012, the numbers are Obama 47.8, Romney 43.9.
In fact, Obama's lead against Romney is slightly larger than his lead over McCain, 3.9% vs. 3.6%.
And this is true for virtually all of July as well.
Conclusion? The dissatisfaction with the economy does not seem to be translating into an abandonment of the incumbent by the voters.
A few caveats: the chart doesn't account for voter enthusiasm, which might work against Obama, but it does include Rasmussen polls in the averages, which may mean Obama's numbers are actually marginally higher than those listed here.
Take it for what it's worth. I realize it's still early and that the state-by-state race is what really counts. But I think that this is a good indication that Obama is in a pretty decent position going into November. It certainly beats having it be the other way around.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/09/1118291/-RCP-poll-averages-Obama-Romney-Obama-McCain
Interesting. The RCP comparisons go back to February 8.
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RCP poll averages: Obama/Romney = Obama/McCain (Original Post)
ProSense
Aug 2012
OP
Clinton beat a corpse (Dole). Obama will easily beat a mannequin attired in magic undies.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2012
#2
Interesting they don't mention that it doesn't take into account voter "enthusiasm" for Romney.
Happyhippychick
Aug 2012
#3
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)1. Nice find.
Thanks.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)2. Clinton beat a corpse (Dole). Obama will easily beat a mannequin attired in magic undies.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)3. Interesting they don't mention that it doesn't take into account voter "enthusiasm" for Romney.
They mention Obama but not him. I don't see anyone saying that they are going to crawl over broken glass to vote for Lurch.
BumRushDaShow
(129,543 posts)4. "voter enthusiasm, which might work against Obama"
??? The very heart of his 2008 vote came from women and minorities and since GOP has been anti- all of those groups, their enthusiasm has grown even larger for Obama - most notably the Hispanic vote. So I don't think that's a problem. The problem might be actual ability to vote based on all the voter suppression laws in place.
RedStateLiberal
(1,374 posts)5. Hmmm. It was numbers like that in '08...
...that made McCain go with a "game changer" for his VP pick.
I wonder if Romney will learn from that mistake or also make an outside-of-the-box pick for VP? I'm guessing he won't and will pick someone bland but desperate times call for desperate actions.