Does anyone really believe that if a tape is released which has Trump

[Atticus]

calling black people the N-word plus every other vile perjorative for Muslims, Mexicans, women and LGBTQ folks that it will have any lasting negative impact on his approval rating or his support?

I'd give it 48 to 72 hours before it was replaced in the news cycle by the new proposed uniform designs for the Space Force or a missile attack against "Nambia".

[SummerSnow]

1. Nope

[beachbum bob]

2. Makes no difference to trumps suppprters..they are a minority for sure.

The real difference, this stuff motivates democrats even more and we outnumber them. Do the math.

[ZZenith]

3. I do.

Every passing day, more and more people are awakening to the sham, and like most illusions, once you see through it you have difficulty seeing it the way you originally did.

39% today, 38.9 tomorrow.

[Stuart G]

9. I agree completely it will get to 30 percent..Why? As more and more see the "sham"

it will become clear....And it will take time to get to 30, but it will get there. Why? Because the lies will get worse, not better..Why? Who is doing the lying? It is that simple.

[ZZenith]

11. In these United States

Ain’t nothing getting better for anyone but a select few, and that’s not sustainable.

[LiberalFighter]

37. It will keep shrinking each day

They are dying off and quitting.

[True Dough]

54. I would like to believe that

but I saw on CNN this morning that Trump's job approval rating had climbed to 42 per cent (the highest in 11 months), which put him a notch or two higher than Bill Clinton and Bush Jr. (I believe) at the same point in their respective presidential tenures.

It is depressing!

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/26/politics/cnn-poll-trump-approval-rating-rises/index.html

[LiberalFighter]

65. Polls are based on a set of numbers.

When they do polling they have so many that self-identify as Republicans, Democrats, independents, etc.

If they don't change that model to adjust for changes then it can be skewed.

This is the way I look at it. Over 73% that die each year are 65 or older. Less than 1.6% are 19 or younger. About 61% (from my memory) have conservative views that would likely vote Republican. The voters that come of age to vote have a lower percent of conservative voters.

In 2015 there were 2,712,630 total deaths. Nearly 8 million will die in a four year period that are 65 or older.

[0rganism]

4. no

they supported baby prisons, ferchrissakes. a little "locker room talk" isn't going to bother them.

48 hours in the news cycle seems about right.

[RockRaven]

5. It's would be a feature, not a bug, in the eye of Trump humpers

And non-Trumpists know he's a racist P.O.S. already.

So no, no difference at all.

[d_r]

55. Right

As far as a bunch of racists are concerned he is just telling it like it is, ND brave enough not to be PC and piss off liberal snowflakes

[msongs]

6. only if all republicans are labeled with actions and words

[Ferrets are Cool]

7. His approval ratings are as low as they are going. nt

[ZZenith]

12. I will bet you four ferrets that is not the case.

His trajectory is set and it is downward.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. Forty percent of American's don't approve of the N word.

[TlalocW]

21. Let's see the ferrets first

Before any bets are made.

TlalocW

[ZZenith]

22. What are you, his agent?

[TlalocW]

24. No, I just like ferrets

Had five of them in my life.

TlalocW

[ZZenith]

29. Damn - you've called my bluff

I am completely bereft of ferrets.

[Ferrets are Cool]

36. LMAO!!!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. His approval ratings can get a lot lower than 41.8%

His approval numbers were hovering around 37% immediately after Charlottesville:



https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/


He would certainly go lower if there's a tape of his using pejoratives for Jews and African Americans.

[Awsi Dooger]

17. This type of tape would definitely drop the numbers

Certainly into the high 30s.

Keep in mind the scenario: If released it would logically happen during the meat of the campaign in mid to late October, with Trump on the stump every day for Republican candidates in tight contests. That would be the nightly spotlight.

Then suddenly if the nightly news and all the cable news programs are running a tape of the president using a racial slur of this magnitude, no kidding the nation stops to talk about it, at the water cooler and everywhere else.

There is no way to ignore the impact, just because his base is racist already. I realize Americans aren't great are looking forward and gauging how something will play out in a different environment, but it's beyond silly to dismiss how awful this would look for him.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. I have been around the block a time or two

I have been around the block a time or two and I haven't heard a white person use the N-word in four decades. Interestingly I have heard people expressing casual anti-semitic sentiments and casual homophobic sentiments on several occasions during the same time period. You just don't use the N-Word if you're white.

The N word is verboten, silly discussions about how rappers use it notwithstanding. Even Eminem has never used it because he knows the word is not his to use.

I don't want to leave the impression I haven't heard my fair share of casual racism, just not the N-Word.

[Awsi Dooger]

23. Could be worse for him than the pussy tape

Depending on his tone and how belittling/racist he sounds.

I'm amazed at this thread, frankly. I have no idea how posters here expect to net 50-70 seats against Trump if they simultaneously believe he could use the N word without impacting the vote

[Atticus]

25. Where was it said that he could " use the N-word without impacting the vote"? nt

[Awsi Dooger]

35. The header plus opening sentence of your OP

"Does anyone really believe that if a tape is released which has Trump calling black people the N-word plus every other vile perjorative for Muslims, Mexicans, women and LGBTQ folks that it will have any lasting negative impact on his approval rating or his support?"

The approval rating and his support level directly relate to the November vote. I hope that is not at issue. If it is debated, I'm not going to participate.

[Atticus]

41. Not really "debating", but my thought was that those who still support him

are the diehards for whom there is no bridge too far, no act or deed that would give them pause.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. Respectfully, you should have been more specific.

Does anyone really believe that if a tape is released which has Trump
calling black people the N-word plus every other vile perjorative for Muslims, Mexicans, women and LGBTQ folks that it will have any lasting negative impact on his approval rating or his support?

I'd give it 48 to 72 hours before it was replaced in the news cycle by the new proposed uniform designs for the Space Force or a missile attack against "Nambia"

You didn't distinguish between overall support and support from his rabid supporters

[exboyfil]

30. Let me introduce you to my mother

Even in public in spite of my entreaties. I would long since have flushed any "friend", but you can't pick your family. Even my Bible thumping grandma used it in the nursing home towards a nursing assistant. Those folks make far too little money to take crap like that. My grandpa once explained to me how every black baby girl who was born should be sterilized.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. That is rare.

[StuckInTexas]

56. Not nearly

as rare as you would think or hope. As someone who has lived in the deep south my whole life, even I have been shocked by things I have heard and witnessed from rural whites in the last few years.

[donkeypoofed]

8. They wouldn't care

When they hear a tape of him committing treason, then they will turn on him, hard !

[exboyfil]

31. Depends on how you define treason

Him doing something that gets lots of white servicemen killed, then you might have a point. If it is just working with the Russians to help keep the GOP in power, then not so much.

[BlueTsunami2018]

10. He might get a bump.

Wouldn’t surprise me in the least.

[JDC]

26. I kinda feel they same way

[Anon-C]

34. Yep I think it would go up.

[John Fante]

64. His support with independents would drop like a rock.

In a sane world, his approval would drop below GWB/Nixon levels, but most likely it would bottom out at 35%.

[GulfCoast66]

15. Quite the opposite. Prove he truly is just like them.

His base anyway. The only way we beat them is to outvote them.

[jcgoldie]

16. Nope

The 40% thats left, the racism is baked in. He's their champ.

[Whiskeytide]

18. The Americans who would be mortified by that ...

... already despise him.

[Rustynaerduwell]

20. Trump could yell n****r on 5th ave

and it wouldn't change a thing.

[Dan]

27. Except if there is no Secret Service protection

he would get his ass whipped.

[Garrett78]

28. I think it would stay in the news cycle longer than 72 hours and would boost our turnout, but...

...I agree with others that it would have little, if any, impact on his approval rating. His approval rating has been steadier than any of his predecessors. Trump being a racist isn't news, but hearing him use racial slurs on tape could boost anti-Republican turnout in November.

[Hoyt]

32. White wingers would be thrilled.

[Freethinker65]

33. Trump's numbers would remain constant. He would lose some and gain others. It would hurt the GOP tho

Especially those GOP running in tight races. If those running were to criticize Trump, they would lose racist support, if they stayed silent or supported Trump with some "locker room talk" or "anti-PC" bullshit excuse they would lose sane republicans and independents.

[Initech]

38. Nope. If anything he'll gain more support from the racists who voted for him.

[pwb]

39. His actual approval rating is probably around 25%

His rally crowds are too drunk and messed up on Hydrocodone to vote.

[Takket]

40. Nope.

And this fascination with Omarosa is baffling to me. She is a fraud and a manipulator. No one even knew what she did when she was at the WH.

GOTV

[DemocratSinceBirth]

44. Posters really need to make up their minds.

The notion that Trump and the GOP are so powerful that he could use the N word and make anti-semitic remarks, that are caught on tape, with immunity and Trump and the GOP are so weak that we will be celebrating a resounding victory in November are mutually exclusive.

[Atticus]

49. Some of us see a difference between Trump's support, which we believe is

almost entirely composed of unreachable voters, and our potential success in November and in 2020. If we can get the independents and sympathetic non-voters to the polls, it will not matter that Trump's base still worships him and he still has a high-30s approval rating.

Those still planning to attract significant votes from Trump supporters are going to be disappointed, IMHO.

[Hortensis]

45. Living in the deep south, I believe it would be

genuinely disapproved by most of our conservative community for a couple of reasons. At least the middle class sorts st mostly associate with.

Many of these people don't seem any more prejudiced than their counterparts we knew in Los Angeles, and for sure most in both groups scrupulously avoid and deplore overt, hateful racism. The disapproval is real and well established in culture.

As for the word as vulgar or hate language, this type of conservative is HUGELY against bad language. In fact, the passionate opposition they typically bring to bad language is one of the main things that caused me to start reading about what was going on in their minds in the first place.

Quite simply, they know good people don't talk that way. It's a moral litmus test for many, including those of low moral IQ for whom the simplicity works well.

What effect on turnout an allegation of Trump using this word could have, if any, I can't say, but it would make many unhappy IF believed.

[kcr]

46. It absolutely will.

It instantly takes down CEOs, for one thing. It is beyond cynical to think it doesn't matter and won't make a difference.

[StuckInTexas]

50. It only takes down

CEO's because their companies usually have to serve the total populace, thus half of their base would be upset. In the case of Trump, his base is the most vile portion humanity has produced since the third reich. His base isn't the white collar conservative, it's the blue collar rural white man who uses the "n" word on a regular basis.

I understand that most of DU are not exposed to them, but as somebody whose employment caters to very blue collar white workers, and also canvases in these areas, I hear the n word at least 10 times a week. They are vile human beings, trump is just a reflection of their hate. His numbers would probably stay the same overall but voter enthusiasm amongst his base would probably increase. I live and work with these people. They harbor more evil and hate in their heart than most can possibly imagine.

[NightWatcher]

47. He said he was entitled to grab women by the genitalia.

You think that he can say anything that will change the minds of his supporters?

[Aristus]

48. Are you kidding?

The 'Deliverance' crowd will love him even more for it...

[mahatmakanejeeves]

51. No.

The thread at Twitter needs to be unrolled.

This fascination with "is there a tape of Trump using a racial epithet" is the ultimate in Trump-era media onanism. No outcome of the inquiry would change anybody's mind or add any meaningful data about the man . . . ./1

Link to tweet

[Eliot Rosewater]

52. His base wants two things, hatred and killing of women who dare have sex without permission

and hatred and killing of all non white str8t xtians, and they know they have that in him.

[matt819]

53. Absolutely not

To them, it'll be "no biggie." It'll free them up to use the same pejorative terms in their daily lives, in the same way that he has encouraged white supremacists and neo-Nazis to crawl from under their rocks into the daylight.

[Grammy23]

57. If hearing their exalted "leader" say he can grab women

by the p-word didn’t bring him down, what makes anyone think using the N-word will do the trick?? If anything, it will endear him to many of the faithful. Dream on if anyone believes that this will be the final straw.

[3catwoman3]

58. His slavering moron supporters will high 5 each other...

...and do a happy dance if they hear this from Donnie's own lips.

[ProfessorGAC]

59. I Do

Remember, there black and Hispanic Americans who voted for the barker because they bought the nonsense that he cared about them
It only takes 2% to make the election impossible to steal.

[MineralMan]

60. His supporters would cheer!

They use that word all the time.

[nolabear]

61. It just might get more non-voters out to vote against him.

And those who support him. The votes are the thing. They’re everything.

[uponit7771]

63. +1

[jalan48]

62. No.