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Snellius

(6,881 posts)
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 03:11 PM Aug 2018

More Omarosa "Unhinged" Skinny on Melania and the Jacket

Source: HillReporter

Ever since President Trump’s inauguration, when Melania Trump seemed to roll her eyes behind her husband’s back, those in the media have been speculating on the strength of First Couple’s marriage. And as new details on the President’s affairs with a porn star and a playboy playmate came to light, this speculation went into overdrive.

Now, according to former White House aide to the president, Omarosa Manigault Newman, the rumors are likely true. “In my opinion, Melania is counting every minute until he is out of office and she can divorce him,” Manigault Newman writes in her new book, Unhinged: An Insider’s Account of the Trump White House.

Manigault Newman also weighed in on that controversial jacket that Melania Trump wore when visiting the child detention center right in the midst of the blowback the President received for his inhumane policy of separating immigrant children from their parents. While the media directed the message on the back of her jacket, ‘I really don’t care, do U,’ towards the children, Manigault Newman gave a different perspective.

“She wore that jacket to hurt Trump, setting off a controversy that he would have to fix, prolonging the conversation about the administration’s insensitivity, ruining the trip itself, and trying to make sure that no one asked her to do something like that again,” Manigault Newman wrote.


https://hillreporter.com/melania-trump-cant-wait-to-divorce-the-president-waiting-until-hes-out-of-office-says-omarosa-5667

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More Omarosa "Unhinged" Skinny on Melania and the Jacket (Original Post) Snellius Aug 2018 OP
Not to Lend ANY Credence to ANYTHING Omarosa Says, But Now I Have a Question... The_Counsel Aug 2018 #1
Of course it doesn't. madaboutharry Aug 2018 #2
So is putine. erronis Aug 2018 #30
I'd guess she doesn't want unhinged Trump supporters attacking her or her son Fresh_Start Aug 2018 #3
Even as a former First Lady thucythucy Aug 2018 #18
Doubt it titaniumsalute Aug 2018 #19
Vanessa Trump's divorce filing was revealed in March and by May, the Trump-humping NY Post deurbano Aug 2018 #50
FLOTUS is legally entitled to anything that the rest of us do. It just might not be safe... Hekate Aug 2018 #4
I'm pretty sure she can NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #5
No the law doesn't prohibit it, but polonium and Novichuk might. Anon-C Aug 2018 #6
That would be way too obvious! But, dump gets away with ecstatic Aug 2018 #37
IANAL, but legally I think nothing would prevent it Retrograde Aug 2018 #8
A "civil matter" ? Your mileage may vary. CentralMass Aug 2018 #24
As opposed to criminal Retrograde Aug 2018 #27
I know. O was just being bitter. CentralMass Aug 2018 #28
If she divorced him would she lose Secret Service protection? nolabear Aug 2018 #9
She totally can divorce him, though he may deport her parents in retaliation. tinrobot Aug 2018 #16
He might deport HER in retaliation jmowreader Aug 2018 #38
There's a pre-nup. She's abiding by her current contract. TeamPooka Aug 2018 #25
Why divorce him. She can do whatever the fuck she wants to and got citizenship for her parents Freethinker65 Aug 2018 #29
No, but the maelstrom would be hard for anyone to take. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #34
The first lady gets to keep the white house in the divorce IronLionZion Aug 2018 #44
Thanks, All, For the Replies. Consensus Seems to Be "Legal Agreement," Rather than "Law." The_Counsel Aug 2018 #57
I think Omarosa's take on the intent of The Jacket is... Beartracks Aug 2018 #7
Agree. Snellius Aug 2018 #11
It makes a LOT more sense to me Chemisse Aug 2018 #33
I tend to agree. She doesn't give a shit about FLOTUS duties. Ilsa Aug 2018 #45
I do too. I thought at the time he was making her go down there, just to give him positive PR and OnDoutside Aug 2018 #49
This part is something I can believe. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #10
She went back. Marcuse Aug 2018 #53
Is divorcing the President off limits ... GeorgeGist Aug 2018 #12
I'd wager she made a deal to wait until 2025 to divorce him. maxsolomon Aug 2018 #13
Welp, that's assuming he'll still have money and ecstatic Aug 2018 #40
She probably made the deal when he announced, not after Mueller started. maxsolomon Aug 2018 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author tinrobot Aug 2018 #14
Melana should put something in his food to make him gain 50 pounds in a month !!! trueblue2007 Aug 2018 #15
nah... handmade34 Aug 2018 #21
A Gypsy curse like in the movie Thinner? ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #23
At least 239 lbs. world wide wally Aug 2018 #32
NO !!! i want Trump to be FATfatFAT ... like the guy in the Monty Python movie. trueblue2007 Aug 2018 #56
it makes a lot of sense AlexSFCA Aug 2018 #17
If they broke up Trump's response would be "She was only my wife for a very short period of time... TeamPooka Aug 2018 #26
Lose custody?! Dump's absentee father record is well documented. ecstatic Aug 2018 #41
Yeah, no way would he actually want to have to take care of his children! deurbano Aug 2018 #42
I'm not so sure Melly woud lose custody of Barron. Totally Tunsie Aug 2018 #48
He seems to have absolutely no interest in that child at all. smirkymonkey Aug 2018 #52
Trump could care less about their kid DeminPennswoods Aug 2018 #51
Whatever the jacket Backfired. It was a Stupid time Cha Aug 2018 #20
Maybe not from her perspective. Chemisse Aug 2018 #35
I'm positive Melania would have divorced Trump after the election but became trapped when he 'won.' TheBlackAdder Aug 2018 #22
Does nobody else think that Melanie is there because she was cultivated? erronis Aug 2018 #31
I have often thought she was a russian plant. Ilsa Aug 2018 #46
I think the jacket was more of a "Okay, this looks cool. I haven't worn it in a while." Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #36
What if her stupid cyber-bullying 'campaign' is just a way to embarrass Trump as well? Chemisse Aug 2018 #39
Of course! The problem is, by trolling trump, she also trolls the rest of us. ecstatic Aug 2018 #47
Melanie gives a big FU to Dirty Donny, republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief Achilleaze Aug 2018 #43
I don't believe much of what Omarosa says but Raine Aug 2018 #54

The_Counsel

(1,660 posts)
1. Not to Lend ANY Credence to ANYTHING Omarosa Says, But Now I Have a Question...
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 03:20 PM
Aug 2018

...exactly what would stop a presidential spouse from divorcing the president while s/he's in office? I don't believe the law prohibits this outright.

Or does it?

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
3. I'd guess she doesn't want unhinged Trump supporters attacking her or her son
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 03:22 PM
Aug 2018

which I believe would happen if she divorced him now.

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
50. Vanessa Trump's divorce filing was revealed in March and by May, the Trump-humping NY Post
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 06:28 PM
Aug 2018

was reporting: "Vanessa Trump’s first love was member of violent street gang"

https://pagesix.com/2018/05/08/vanessa-trumps-first-love-was-member-of-violent-street-gang/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=P6Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow

Funny about the timing... Seemed like a warning to keep her trap shut regarding Jr's affairs and other unsavory matters. I'm sure Sr's wife would receive the same treatment.

Hekate

(90,705 posts)
4. FLOTUS is legally entitled to anything that the rest of us do. It just might not be safe...
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 03:22 PM
Aug 2018

...to leave potus while he's potus. If you know what I mean.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
5. I'm pretty sure she can
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 03:23 PM
Aug 2018

however, she might have signed some sort of add-on to the original prenup that prohibits it?

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
37. That would be way too obvious! But, dump gets away with
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 05:53 PM
Aug 2018

everything, so he'd probably do it anyway.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
8. IANAL, but legally I think nothing would prevent it
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 03:32 PM
Aug 2018

Divorce is a civil matter, and as we saw back in the 1990s sitting presidents can be served with civil suits. I'm not really all that familiar with New York State divorce laws, but it would seem that Donnie has given Melania enough grounds -especially if Ms Daniels and the rest would agree to testify - that it would be straightforward. The settlement would probably be an issue, though. If she wants more than whatever her prenup states Melania will have to fight for it.

Otherwise, as far as I know she can walk away any time she wants to. It would mean giving up the White House, her staff, flying around on government planes, possibly Secret Service protection - but it's her call.

nolabear

(41,984 posts)
9. If she divorced him would she lose Secret Service protection?
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 03:32 PM
Aug 2018

Because she might know things that could get her killed.

tinrobot

(10,903 posts)
16. She totally can divorce him, though he may deport her parents in retaliation.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 04:04 PM
Aug 2018

He's pretty big on the revenge thing.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
38. He might deport HER in retaliation
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 05:54 PM
Aug 2018

A spy network is set up a little like an Amway network - you have all your little fish out there doing their work. A group of them is led by an agent handler. A group of agent handlers is led by a case officer. There are a lot of advantages to this, chief among them being that if someone unmasks an agent the government might pick up the agent handler but they probably won't get the case officer, who is a very experienced spook they don't want to lose.

I believe Melania is Trump's agent handler. So long as Trump is in the White House, Melania will stay with him because it'd look REALLY obvious to plant a new handler now. Once he's out of office, all bets are off.

Freethinker65

(10,023 posts)
29. Why divorce him. She can do whatever the fuck she wants to and got citizenship for her parents
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 05:10 PM
Aug 2018

While she would probably be fine with spending even less time with Trump, getting to travel and meet powerful and famous people that otherwise would not give her the time of day is a perk.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
34. No, but the maelstrom would be hard for anyone to take.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 05:49 PM
Aug 2018

The press would be following her around, hounding her & Barron all the time. Shouting questions at her. It would hurt Trump's presidency. She may just want a divorce and not care to kill his presidency.

I figure that for every porn star and marital betrayal, there was a nice payment into her separate account. Say, $1 Million a pop? $1 Million for the Stormy night. $3 Mill for the long term affair with that other woman. Etc.

She's racking up the dough, while she's in the White House. I guess she signed a prenup, so although she's a millionaire in her own right, she'll make a lot of money in the W.H., and then she can divorce and live comfortably & marry a handsome, younger (and rich) man with a bod.

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
44. The first lady gets to keep the white house in the divorce
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 06:16 PM
Aug 2018

and the president has to go sleep on Giuliani's couch until he settles into a longer term stay in federal prison.

The_Counsel

(1,660 posts)
57. Thanks, All, For the Replies. Consensus Seems to Be "Legal Agreement," Rather than "Law."
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 11:58 AM
Aug 2018

Okay, I'll buy that.

But MAN, that's gotta suck if you're Melania. I guess she'll just dry her tears with $100 bills...

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
7. I think Omarosa's take on the intent of The Jacket is...
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 03:31 PM
Aug 2018

... probably way closer to the truth than that its message was aimed at the children.

At least, I like to think that the First Lady trolls her husband every chance she gets.

==========

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
11. Agree.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 03:47 PM
Aug 2018

She seems more complicated than the political role of First Lady/Trophy Wife she's been cast (and accepted) to play. Trump, like all sociopaths, is always looking to take advantage of those who let themselves easily be taken advantage of.

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
33. It makes a LOT more sense to me
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 05:48 PM
Aug 2018

Than that she felt compelled to announce to the world that she didn't care about captive children.

It fits with other clues that she is quietly defiant toward her husband, and has techniques to get her way (lengthy stays in NY, the hand-holding spurn, the disappearance after her surgery, maybe even the plagiarized speech at the convention).

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
45. I tend to agree. She doesn't give a shit about FLOTUS duties.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 06:16 PM
Aug 2018

This was her way of making sure she wouldn't be sent to see the brown kids at the border ever again.

OnDoutside

(19,957 posts)
49. I do too. I thought at the time he was making her go down there, just to give him positive PR and
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 06:26 PM
Aug 2018

she was furious about that. Hence the jacket.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
10. This part is something I can believe.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 03:34 PM
Aug 2018

"trying to make sure that no one asked her to do something like that again"

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
13. I'd wager she made a deal to wait until 2025 to divorce him.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 03:55 PM
Aug 2018

8 figures, if not 9.

And the deal probably says she doesn't have to pretend to care.

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
40. Welp, that's assuming he'll still have money and
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 05:59 PM
Aug 2018

that his criminal enterprises won't be disbanded by Mueller. She should roll the dice and take her chances. There's a lot of other ways to make money. Turning on trump would be a cash cow. Do a tell all, advocate and support real causes, like autism support and awareness, etc.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
55. She probably made the deal when he announced, not after Mueller started.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 07:36 PM
Aug 2018

There might be substantial penalties for early withdrawal.

Plus, she doesn't give a fuck about real causes. She only really seems to care about Barron. Which is more than you can say about The Dotard.

Response to Snellius (Original post)

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
17. it makes a lot of sense
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 04:05 PM
Aug 2018

the explanation about the jacket. It appears that was her way to shine the light on the issue while not risking retaliation. She will likely lose custody of her son entirely should she start divorce now. Her against the most powerful person in the world is not a fair battle. trump’s cronies would incriminate her creating false stories and falsicying events, etc. She is a weak person, we’ve always known this.

TeamPooka

(24,228 posts)
26. If they broke up Trump's response would be "She was only my wife for a very short period of time...
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 05:05 PM
Aug 2018

I hardly know her. Also, she's not very bright and she's a lowlife."

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
41. Lose custody?! Dump's absentee father record is well documented.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 06:01 PM
Aug 2018

The entire world knows he is unfit, as he acts like a child himself!

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
48. I'm not so sure Melly woud lose custody of Barron.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 06:24 PM
Aug 2018

She seems to be devoted to being a decent mother and to protecting him. tRump would have to come up with some pretty strong charges for her to lose custody, and I don't thnk he's even that interested in him.

Has he ever been shown to be interacting with Barron? Speculating, but Barron seems to be mildly "on the spectrum", and probably doesn't meet Daddy's requirements for recognition. He also wrote off Tiffany long ago. As long as he has his triumvirate of Donny, Ivanka and Eric, he's content.

If Melly files against him, he'll probably want all traces of her gone, including his youngest spawn.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
52. He seems to have absolutely no interest in that child at all.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 06:55 PM
Aug 2018

People say it's probably a good thing that he isn't around him much, and I would agree, but it has to screw a child up to know that his father wants nothing to do with him. Trump should have been sterilized a long time ago. He has never had any business being a father to anyone.

erronis

(15,286 posts)
31. Does nobody else think that Melanie is there because she was cultivated?
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 05:25 PM
Aug 2018

That's always been my first assumption.

Of course with so many gaping apertures into the bowels of the dump world, I'm not sure the rUSSRians need her to keep playing that role.

Come home and get your medal and just desserts.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
46. I have often thought she was a russian plant.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 06:19 PM
Aug 2018

She is not trump's controller, but a spy. Doing the work of FLOTUS wasn't in the deal.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
36. I think the jacket was more of a "Okay, this looks cool. I haven't worn it in a while."
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 05:53 PM
Aug 2018

I don't think Melania gives much thought to things. She's never had to. She just does whatever.

To say it was so they wouldn't send her on more outings, I don't know. I think she'd just refuse to go. I don't think she'd do a cloak and dagger sending-a-message thing. She's not that deep or forward thinking, is my impression.

She's into appearance and fashion. I think it was as simple as...it was a cool thing to wear. She didn't care about what mission she was being sent on, so that didn't cross her mind.

I also don't know that Omarosa was tight with Melania, to know what's in Melania's mind.

Everything Omarosa says is suspect, unless she has something to back it up. She's a known dishonest, unethical, sarcastic, not nice person. She was furthering Trump's goals, while knowing he didn't give a flip about the country or anyone but himself.

But it's a pleasure to see the fight between her and the White House. Bad people going after each other.

I will say this for her. She was sharp not to sign that NDA. I bet almost everyone does. That took hudspa. And they kept her on staff. Tha's how important she was to them. Trump's "my African American."

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
39. What if her stupid cyber-bullying 'campaign' is just a way to embarrass Trump as well?
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 05:54 PM
Aug 2018

It never made a lot of sense: an ineffectual effort to stop something that her husband does on a daily basis.

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
47. Of course! The problem is, by trolling trump, she also trolls the rest of us.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 06:23 PM
Aug 2018

It's impossible not to.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
43. Melanie gives a big FU to Dirty Donny, republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 06:15 PM
Aug 2018

Her and all the decent people on planet earth.

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