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Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 08:59 AM Aug 2018

NY Times reporter: Omarosa wasn't the only White House staffer making secret recordings of Trump

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/ny-times-reporter-trumps-white-house-loaded-people-secretly-recording/

And Trump was claiming Obama was spying on him, Trump's entire administration has been nothing but rat's nest of money grabbers from day one.

There are only two reasons anyone takes a job with a lowlife pile of ѕhit like Trump

The first is you are corrupt as fuсk just like he is, and the second is to cash in on a book deal to tell about how much of a train wreck he is.

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NY Times reporter: Omarosa wasn't the only White House staffer making secret recordings of Trump (Original Post) Snake Plissken Aug 2018 OP
Trump staff are grifters and/or corrupt? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. WePurrsevere Aug 2018 #1
Oh, marvelous. Top security, there. JHB Aug 2018 #2
Think it's funny how they are making a big deal Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #9
When she said he locked the doors I felt fear. Why would he lock the frigging doors? Maraya1969 Aug 2018 #36
Subsequent info. Door auto locks...with attendant letting Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #43
Yea, I would be like, "What integrity issues?" Maraya1969 Aug 2018 #46
Fun aside, she's not a credible source, a shame Hortensis Aug 2018 #53
Michael Wolff did exactly that, and he wasn't even a paid employee FakeNoose Aug 2018 #3
and who knows what the Russians left behind to record Donny NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #7
I would hope the Secret Service guys did a sweep after the Russians left FakeNoose Aug 2018 #11
Oh, Lordy! nt Xipe Totec Aug 2018 #4
Normal people don't work for Donald Trump. dalton99a Aug 2018 #5
Interesting. Omarosa's recordings sound so Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #6
Donny is 72 years old NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #8
As long as the lights aren't moving or blinking cheetolini wouldn't notice. marble falls Aug 2018 #10
Yup. Just installed a voice recorder app on my Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #14
Yup. Agschmid Aug 2018 #38
I do not understand Louis1895 Aug 2018 #13
This does not work...I don't need a cell phone to make a recording...I have a smartpen HipChick Aug 2018 #15
True, I do too Louis1895 Aug 2018 #20
It's truly a mess...and huge leak of failure of security processes.. HipChick Aug 2018 #24
Exactly... SkyDaddy7 Aug 2018 #44
I have one in my shoe. Like Maxwell Smart. tavernier Aug 2018 #57
Yes in trump WH for sure. Maybe u could issue Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #17
Yeah Cosmocat Aug 2018 #18
Guess they thought NDAs would do it. Just like Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #21
I got the impression that she had it on her person, like in her bra. Maraya1969 Aug 2018 #37
New invention idea !! Bra with phone holder Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #55
There are apps you can get that let you record in the background. joshcryer Aug 2018 #51
Other WH staffers say Omarosa was always surfing the net or shopping online during tblue37 Aug 2018 #58
Do you have a link for that? joshcryer Aug 2018 #60
I read so many articles every day that I can't remember which one mentioned it. tblue37 Aug 2018 #61
Trump couldn't bring an experienced top tier team to the White House because procon Aug 2018 #12
I guess Kelly was top tier? But he sure did sound Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #19
That was my thought too. LiberalFighter Aug 2018 #40
Not like a good guy ...there to save the US Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #42
Besides not being a good person. LiberalFighter Aug 2018 #49
The KGOP republican rat's nest in our White House Achilleaze Aug 2018 #16
Gross!! Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #22
That's what all decent Americans are saying about the republicans who stole our White House Achilleaze Aug 2018 #27
Agreed!!! Scared of rats and repukes Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2018 #34
My initial reaction was "cute!" waddirum Aug 2018 #47
... catbyte Aug 2018 #23
... Phentex Aug 2018 #39
This is mind boggling to me because my husband was not allowed helpisontheway Aug 2018 #25
you have an erratic liar running the show....you have to protect yourself dembotoz Aug 2018 #26
The Truth marieo1 Aug 2018 #28
Why no NY Times url??? MagickMuffin Aug 2018 #29
And to collect blackmail material Politicub Aug 2018 #30
Does anybody remember how trump tried to intimidate Comey calimary Aug 2018 #31
How could time zones even exist CanonRay Aug 2018 #32
My husband just came up with a new name for Omarosa! calimary Aug 2018 #33
He's enlarged that now. calimary Aug 2018 #35
Other staffers could include Ivanka. LiberalFighter Aug 2018 #41
Well part of the divorce settlement will be a gag order on her till the ole man dies. YOHABLO Aug 2018 #45
With his health it won't be long. LiberalFighter Aug 2018 #48
But WHY does everyone around Trump feel the need DeminPennswoods Aug 2018 #50
Everyone around them is just as corrupt as they are Snake Plissken Aug 2018 #54
because later he will claim he did not say whatever he said treestar Aug 2018 #56
That's my theory DeminPennswoods Aug 2018 #59
The grifters in the White House don't even trust each other Older Than I Look Aug 2018 #52
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
9. Think it's funny how they are making a big deal
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:08 AM
Aug 2018

about Omarosa and Kelly meeting in the Situation Room. It was just probably a handy unused soundproof room because he thought she'd start screaming.

It's not like the room is used for it's intended purpose..for experts to meet and rationally debate important issues. Ha ! They operate from the virtual "Tweet Action and Remediation Room" (since the handlers are probably still home asleep.

Maraya1969

(22,480 posts)
36. When she said he locked the doors I felt fear. Why would he lock the frigging doors?
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 01:32 PM
Aug 2018

Maybe he wanted her to feel afraid. He did threaten her. He is one creepy guy.

Maybe because I am a woman I can understand how uncomfortable the whole thing was. If I could get a recorder in the room I probably would have done so too.

That being said I listened to her interview on one of the morning shows and she has a really controlling and irritating nature.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
43. Subsequent info. Door auto locks...with attendant letting
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:02 PM
Aug 2018

People in and out. Sure he was scaring her. What's weird to me is on tape. He accused her of extreme integrity issues. Maraya! If it was you or me wouldn't you immediately ask wtf ? Huh? I have integrity issues? She didn't. All that said loving every minute of the drama

Maraya1969

(22,480 posts)
46. Yea, I would be like, "What integrity issues?"
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:39 PM
Aug 2018

"Please be specific; what are you referring to? "

I'm not the best in these types of situations but I think maybe if I knew I was taping the whole thing maybe I'd be in better control of my mouth.

It is some fun drama though!!!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
53. Fun aside, she's not a credible source, a shame
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 07:08 AM
Aug 2018

given where she's been because probably some things are true, or partially so. The question isn't whether she has "integrity issues," that's well established by her as well as others, but what Kelly was using to fire her (he has his own integrity issues of course). One thing we can assume: future historians will mine Newman's book for information and clues and no doubt still argue long after we're all dead about which statements have been verified sufficiently to cite.

Btw, I can't help thinking that, in the #metoo era, it'd be very strange if Kelly didn't have means of protecting himself from accusations from Newman. When a man is firing and a women is being told security would escort her out, guessing it's just as SOP as in a dentist's office.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
3. Michael Wolff did exactly that, and he wasn't even a paid employee
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:52 AM
Aug 2018

He just hung out at the White House and collected all the dirt. I'm sure he recorded interviews and convos with the WH employees. We got to read about it in "Fire and Fury." And he made a killing on that book too.




NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
7. and who knows what the Russians left behind to record Donny
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:59 AM
Aug 2018

at that early 2017 meeting after Comey had been fired - you know, the one where the US press was locked out

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
11. I would hope the Secret Service guys did a sweep after the Russians left
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:10 AM
Aug 2018

Whatever the Russians tried to leave behind should have been found immediately. Employee subterfuge (secret recordings etc.) is something they wouldn't be able to find in a regular sweep.

I'm wondering how the WH employees are able to bring in their personal cellphones, I thought they had to leave them at the security check-in door when they come to work. Government-issue cellphones are allowed in the office but not personal ones.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
6. Interesting. Omarosa's recordings sound so
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:57 AM
Aug 2018

clear..no muffling. Been meaning to check my phone. Do you think she (and others) just put phone on record and leave it lying in table? There are no recording indicators visible?

How could you stop people? Everyone needs their phone right?

Obama's WH would have had same issue... except no worries since they were open and forthright and believed in using stenographers.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
8. Donny is 72 years old
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:02 AM
Aug 2018

he might not get what every notification light on a phone means, and if the phone has a black screen, it might not show what is happening?

Or, maybe she had it attached to her belt or her purse/bag with the microphone facing outward?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
14. Yup. Just installed a voice recorder app on my
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:18 AM
Aug 2018

Moto Android phone. Took 30 secs. Hit record and blackened screen. No problem ..you don't even know if my phone is powered up or not.

Don't know how you'd stop or prevent it from happening...except to start acting with dignity and professionalism top down. Oops.

Louis1895

(768 posts)
13. I do not understand
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:14 AM
Aug 2018

If I were in charge, no personal cell phones would be allowed inside the White House. Employees would check their personal phones at security and be issued devices to be used internally. Family members would be given instructions to call an emergency number, if necessary. Otherwise, internal communication would be similar to the days before cell phones. Maybe pagers would be okay.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
15. This does not work...I don't need a cell phone to make a recording...I have a smartpen
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:18 AM
Aug 2018

no one would know any better...

no one uses pagers anymore...

Any device can really be setup to record really....

Louis1895

(768 posts)
20. True, I do too
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:22 AM
Aug 2018

Those pens are very good.

I guess the best thing would be to have a very hefty penalty and also background checks on everyone.

Geez. What a mess.

Trump hires only the "best people"! Can you imagine how bad it would be if he did not?

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
24. It's truly a mess...and huge leak of failure of security processes..
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:26 AM
Aug 2018

Background checks won't help...TSA like physical exam before you enter SCIF might..

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
44. Exactly...
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:58 PM
Aug 2018

Almost every tech gadget these days will allow you to voice record...I can make phone calls from my iPad Pro via WiFi, etc.,

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
18. Yeah
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:20 AM
Aug 2018

that should be the standard regardless, but given the shitstorm this admin has been, you would think they would have done it to button things up.

But, completely give a shitness is part of the package for 45s rule.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
21. Guess they thought NDAs would do it. Just like
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:23 AM
Aug 2018

Trump org relied on. Omarosa implied that she wouldn't or didn't sign one

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
55. New invention idea !! Bra with phone holder
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 08:34 AM
Aug 2018

Pocket! Lol. Explains why she sounded so calm maybe. Didn't want to move too much.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
51. There are apps you can get that let you record in the background.
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 03:55 AM
Aug 2018

Without any indication except for a tiny red icon at the top of the status bar of your phone. You can browse the web or even watch a video (the video will be picked up by the recorder) while doing it, so it can be totally inconspicuous.

One such app is Smart Voice Recorder which came invaluable for me at one point for reasons I won't get in to. And you don't need to hack your phone for it to work. It just takes over the mic and hides in the background and the audio quality is fantastic.

tblue37

(65,371 posts)
58. Other WH staffers say Omarosa was always surfing the net or shopping online during
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 09:24 AM
Aug 2018

meetings, so maybe she was using that to cover up her recording activities.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
60. Do you have a link for that?
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 03:10 AM
Aug 2018

Because when I discretely recorded I did exactly that. It is completely discreet. No one would ever even guess it was doing something. (Contrasted with, say, putting the phone down in the middle of the table.)

tblue37

(65,371 posts)
61. I read so many articles every day that I can't remember which one mentioned it.
Wed Aug 15, 2018, 10:30 AM
Aug 2018

If I do remember, I will come back and leave you a link.

My guess is that she really did shop and surf the net when she should have been working, but that she also used that behavior to cover her recording efforts.

procon

(15,805 posts)
12. Trump couldn't bring an experienced top tier team to the White House because
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:11 AM
Aug 2018

no one was willing to risk their careers or their reputations by being associated with him, so he ended up with the dregs like Omarosa.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
16. The KGOP republican rat's nest in our White House
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:18 AM
Aug 2018

Disgusting republican "values" are toxic for America and American democracy.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
27. That's what all decent Americans are saying about the republicans who stole our White House
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:32 AM
Aug 2018

They are gross.

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
25. This is mind boggling to me because my husband was not allowed
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:26 AM
Aug 2018

to take his cell phone in the buildings(at work) when he was active duty. Yet these people just walk into the situation room with cell phones?

dembotoz

(16,806 posts)
26. you have an erratic liar running the show....you have to protect yourself
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:29 AM
Aug 2018

you do what he tells you to and then he will deny and your ass is vulnerable....

damn yes record stuff

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
28. The Truth
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:35 AM
Aug 2018

This message tells it like it is, I appreciate the truth. We all know how corrupt all of the WH is right now but Snake Plissken tells it so brilliantly. Thank You!!!

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
30. And to collect blackmail material
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:54 AM
Aug 2018

Just think - tens or maybe even hundreds of staffers with compromising material direct from the horse’s ass/mouth.

calimary

(81,268 posts)
31. Does anybody remember how trump tried to intimidate Comey
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 11:01 AM
Aug 2018

and he specifically said “he (Comey) better hope there aren’t any tapes” after Comey spoke about his fateful one-on-one encounter with trump? trump sent everybody else out of the room and then leaned on Comey to “let this one go” on Mike Flynn. And when Comey made detailed notes of the encounter and shared them contemporaneously with his pal Ben Wittes and other friends to build some back-up, trump insinuated - I think in a tweet - that “he better hope there aren’t any tapes”?

This is the climate trump himself SET UP. And presided over. From the early days of this catastrophically dreadful administration.

CanonRay

(14,103 posts)
32. How could time zones even exist
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 11:22 AM
Aug 2018

when the whole world is about it. The time is whatever time it is where Trump is.

calimary

(81,268 posts)
33. My husband just came up with a new name for Omarosa!
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 11:25 AM
Aug 2018

Omarosa Not-My-Fault.

Now we just have to figure out what to do with the “Newman” part.

On edit: so far he’s using “Human.”

Omarosa Not-My-Fault Human.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
50. But WHY does everyone around Trump feel the need
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 03:48 AM
Aug 2018

to record everything and everyone? That's the $64,000 question!

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
54. Everyone around them is just as corrupt as they are
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 07:54 AM
Aug 2018

and they're all looking for anything they can cash in on later on.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
56. because later he will claim he did not say whatever he said
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 09:01 AM
Aug 2018

to cast blame on them for something he should have responsibility for.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
59. That's my theory
Tue Aug 14, 2018, 02:47 PM
Aug 2018

He's such a liar, you have to have some incontrovertible record of whatever he says to you.

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