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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNY Times reporter: Omarosa wasn't the only White House staffer making secret recordings of Trump
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/ny-times-reporter-trumps-white-house-loaded-people-secretly-recording/And Trump was claiming Obama was spying on him, Trump's entire administration has been nothing but rat's nest of money grabbers from day one.
There are only two reasons anyone takes a job with a lowlife pile of ѕhit like Trump
The first is you are corrupt as fuсk just like he is, and the second is to cash in on a book deal to tell about how much of a train wreck he is.
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)JHB
(37,160 posts)But her emails.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)about Omarosa and Kelly meeting in the Situation Room. It was just probably a handy unused soundproof room because he thought she'd start screaming.
It's not like the room is used for it's intended purpose..for experts to meet and rationally debate important issues. Ha ! They operate from the virtual "Tweet Action and Remediation Room" (since the handlers are probably still home asleep.
Maraya1969
(22,480 posts)Maybe he wanted her to feel afraid. He did threaten her. He is one creepy guy.
Maybe because I am a woman I can understand how uncomfortable the whole thing was. If I could get a recorder in the room I probably would have done so too.
That being said I listened to her interview on one of the morning shows and she has a really controlling and irritating nature.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)People in and out. Sure he was scaring her. What's weird to me is on tape. He accused her of extreme integrity issues. Maraya! If it was you or me wouldn't you immediately ask wtf ? Huh? I have integrity issues? She didn't. All that said loving every minute of the drama
Maraya1969
(22,480 posts)"Please be specific; what are you referring to? "
I'm not the best in these types of situations but I think maybe if I knew I was taping the whole thing maybe I'd be in better control of my mouth.
It is some fun drama though!!!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)given where she's been because probably some things are true, or partially so. The question isn't whether she has "integrity issues," that's well established by her as well as others, but what Kelly was using to fire her (he has his own integrity issues of course). One thing we can assume: future historians will mine Newman's book for information and clues and no doubt still argue long after we're all dead about which statements have been verified sufficiently to cite.
Btw, I can't help thinking that, in the #metoo era, it'd be very strange if Kelly didn't have means of protecting himself from accusations from Newman. When a man is firing and a women is being told security would escort her out, guessing it's just as SOP as in a dentist's office.
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)He just hung out at the White House and collected all the dirt. I'm sure he recorded interviews and convos with the WH employees. We got to read about it in "Fire and Fury." And he made a killing on that book too.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)at that early 2017 meeting after Comey had been fired - you know, the one where the US press was locked out
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)Whatever the Russians tried to leave behind should have been found immediately. Employee subterfuge (secret recordings etc.) is something they wouldn't be able to find in a regular sweep.
I'm wondering how the WH employees are able to bring in their personal cellphones, I thought they had to leave them at the security check-in door when they come to work. Government-issue cellphones are allowed in the office but not personal ones.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)dalton99a
(81,512 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)clear..no muffling. Been meaning to check my phone. Do you think she (and others) just put phone on record and leave it lying in table? There are no recording indicators visible?
How could you stop people? Everyone needs their phone right?
Obama's WH would have had same issue... except no worries since they were open and forthright and believed in using stenographers.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)he might not get what every notification light on a phone means, and if the phone has a black screen, it might not show what is happening?
Or, maybe she had it attached to her belt or her purse/bag with the microphone facing outward?
marble falls
(57,096 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Moto Android phone. Took 30 secs. Hit record and blackened screen. No problem ..you don't even know if my phone is powered up or not.
Don't know how you'd stop or prevent it from happening...except to start acting with dignity and professionalism top down. Oops.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Louis1895
(768 posts)If I were in charge, no personal cell phones would be allowed inside the White House. Employees would check their personal phones at security and be issued devices to be used internally. Family members would be given instructions to call an emergency number, if necessary. Otherwise, internal communication would be similar to the days before cell phones. Maybe pagers would be okay.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)no one would know any better...
no one uses pagers anymore...
Any device can really be setup to record really....
Louis1895
(768 posts)Those pens are very good.
I guess the best thing would be to have a very hefty penalty and also background checks on everyone.
Geez. What a mess.
Trump hires only the "best people"! Can you imagine how bad it would be if he did not?
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Background checks won't help...TSA like physical exam before you enter SCIF might..
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)Almost every tech gadget these days will allow you to voice record...I can make phone calls from my iPad Pro via WiFi, etc.,
tavernier
(12,389 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Cells that can't record.
that should be the standard regardless, but given the shitstorm this admin has been, you would think they would have done it to button things up.
But, completely give a shitness is part of the package for 45s rule.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Trump org relied on. Omarosa implied that she wouldn't or didn't sign one
Maraya1969
(22,480 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Pocket! Lol. Explains why she sounded so calm maybe. Didn't want to move too much.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Without any indication except for a tiny red icon at the top of the status bar of your phone. You can browse the web or even watch a video (the video will be picked up by the recorder) while doing it, so it can be totally inconspicuous.
One such app is Smart Voice Recorder which came invaluable for me at one point for reasons I won't get in to. And you don't need to hack your phone for it to work. It just takes over the mic and hides in the background and the audio quality is fantastic.
tblue37
(65,371 posts)meetings, so maybe she was using that to cover up her recording activities.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Because when I discretely recorded I did exactly that. It is completely discreet. No one would ever even guess it was doing something. (Contrasted with, say, putting the phone down in the middle of the table.)
tblue37
(65,371 posts)If I do remember, I will come back and leave you a link.
My guess is that she really did shop and surf the net when she should have been working, but that she also used that behavior to cover her recording efforts.
procon
(15,805 posts)no one was willing to risk their careers or their reputations by being associated with him, so he ended up with the dregs like Omarosa.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Like a scheming asshole on the Omarosa tape. Imho
LiberalFighter
(50,931 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,931 posts)He isn't smart about how to handle situations.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)Disgusting republican "values" are toxic for America and American democracy.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)They are gross.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)waddirum
(979 posts)I bet their mother loves them.
catbyte
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Apparently, there is no honor among thieves.
Ya know it IS possible Omarosa used the microwave....
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)to take his cell phone in the buildings(at work) when he was active duty. Yet these people just walk into the situation room with cell phones?
dembotoz
(16,806 posts)you do what he tells you to and then he will deny and your ass is vulnerable....
damn yes record stuff
marieo1
(1,402 posts)This message tells it like it is, I appreciate the truth. We all know how corrupt all of the WH is right now but Snake Plissken tells it so brilliantly. Thank You!!!
MagickMuffin
(15,943 posts)I'm not inclined to go to rawstory since they steal their info from other sources.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Just think - tens or maybe even hundreds of staffers with compromising material direct from the horses ass/mouth.
calimary
(81,268 posts)and he specifically said he (Comey) better hope there arent any tapes after Comey spoke about his fateful one-on-one encounter with trump? trump sent everybody else out of the room and then leaned on Comey to let this one go on Mike Flynn. And when Comey made detailed notes of the encounter and shared them contemporaneously with his pal Ben Wittes and other friends to build some back-up, trump insinuated - I think in a tweet - that he better hope there arent any tapes?
This is the climate trump himself SET UP. And presided over. From the early days of this catastrophically dreadful administration.
CanonRay
(14,103 posts)when the whole world is about it. The time is whatever time it is where Trump is.
calimary
(81,268 posts)Omarosa Not-My-Fault.
Now we just have to figure out what to do with the Newman part.
On edit: so far hes using Human.
Omarosa Not-My-Fault Human.
calimary
(81,268 posts)Oh-my-goodness Not-my-fault Human.
LiberalFighter
(50,931 posts)And don't forget Melania.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,931 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)to record everything and everyone? That's the $64,000 question!
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)and they're all looking for anything they can cash in on later on.
treestar
(82,383 posts)to cast blame on them for something he should have responsibility for.
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)He's such a liar, you have to have some incontrovertible record of whatever he says to you.
Older Than I Look
(95 posts)Why should the rest of us trust them?