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disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 08:06 AM Aug 2018

DU darling Tulsi Gabbard wins BIG..

"Hawai`i Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard (HI-02) won Saturday's three-way Democratic Primary Election, earning 84% of the votes cast."

"Hawaii's people understand that the cost of war impacts us all--through lives lost and resources wasted. Every dollar spent on interventionist wars of choice is a dollar we are not investing in our communities right here at home on things like healthcare, education, infrastructure, and more."

[link:https://www.votetulsi.com/node/33238|


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DU darling Tulsi Gabbard wins BIG.. (Original Post) disillusioned73 Aug 2018 OP
. Soxfan58 Aug 2018 #1
She is obviously very well-liked in her district oberliner Aug 2018 #2
Her opponent got in late, appeared to be a lost cause, and this was her first run. mahina Aug 2018 #3
That's news... disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #4
I have no idea. I hope to never have to find out. mahina Aug 2018 #5
You DON'T know if you'll vote for the Democrat? theaocp Aug 2018 #15
This soft "rule" only applies.. disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #17
What are you insinuating? mahina Aug 2018 #23
Not insinuating anything.. disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #27
It was a bad idea. mahina Aug 2018 #6
We all know what this is really about.. disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #8
What is it about? mahina Aug 2018 #11
C'mon man.. disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #18
You are mistaken. I supported Bernie in the primary and Hillary in the general. mahina Aug 2018 #20
From the Washington Post mahina Aug 2018 #7
She quit in the middle of her first term on the city council to run for the house seat. mahina Aug 2018 #9
Mahina thanks for your input on what's going on with Hawaii's political scene. oasis Aug 2018 #19
Thanks brother. mahina Aug 2018 #26
Since when is she leftynyc Aug 2018 #10
A lil... tounge in cheek, disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #12
Ah leftynyc Aug 2018 #13
I'm not.. disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #14
I would have thought leftynyc Aug 2018 #16
Agreed mahina Aug 2018 #24
You mean for Obama haters? BannonsLiver Aug 2018 #31
Gloating??.. I was sharing information about a Dem candidate disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #34
This is what democracy looks like. aikoaiko Aug 2018 #21
Yes, it does... disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #22
Voters in each district decide who they want on the November ballot. MineralMan Aug 2018 #25
That standard only applies... sometimes.. disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #28
Nope. I almost never comment on House members who are MineralMan Aug 2018 #29
Ok, what works for you.. disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #30
Well, I'd be pretty excited about PA11, then. MineralMan Aug 2018 #32
Keep pushing.. disillusioned73 Aug 2018 #33

mahina

(17,659 posts)
3. Her opponent got in late, appeared to be a lost cause, and this was her first run.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:04 AM
Aug 2018
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2132034

Hindsight being 20-20 and all, she could have been more effective. I had to make a choice between the two and just left that part of the ballot blank.

Tulsi is running for President and at least appears to lack the grounding and core local Democratic principles that identified our towering historic figures such as Patsy Mink, Sparky Matsunaga and Senator Akaka.

She is much more of a pragmatist, saying she’s willing to work with Donald Trump and Assad. I don’t know her core beliefs about how the government should represent people, and I’ve known her since the 06 Akaka campaign.

In a community where a Republican would have almost no chance to win, we now have one and will have two people in the House who are at least sometimes go-along-to-get-alongers. (Ed Case was once the sole Dem to vote to defund PBS and NPR He also often said when running for Patsy Mink’s seat after she died that he would have voted for the Iraq War Resolution, which none of our other electeds supported. That was for the CD2 seat, which the OP is talking about now. )

But we have two outstanding Senators who make us very proud!


 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
4. That's news...
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:07 AM
Aug 2018

"Tulsi is running for President and at least appears to lack the grounding and core local Democratic principles"

80% + voters disagrees with your "core democratic principles" assessment..

Will you leave the top of the ticket blank if she is a Presidential or Vice Presidential candidate??

mahina

(17,659 posts)
5. I have no idea. I hope to never have to find out.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:10 AM
Aug 2018

She’s done some good things. Going to meet with Assad wasn’t one of them.

theaocp

(4,237 posts)
15. You DON'T know if you'll vote for the Democrat?
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:32 AM
Aug 2018

I can't wait to see other people trying to say that about Manchin or Heitkamp.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
27. Not insinuating anything..
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:50 AM
Aug 2018

it's obvious that "blue no matter who" is just a talking point around here.. the proponents only apply that standard strategically..

Look up Ocasio for perfect examples recently.. or anyone that bucks the standard orthodoxy of centrism for that matter..

mahina

(17,659 posts)
6. It was a bad idea.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:13 AM
Aug 2018
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/26/tulsi-gabbard-bashar-al-assad-syria-democrats

Tulsi Gabbard reveals she met Assad in Syria, without informing top Democrats
Hawaiian congresswoman claims she went on a ‘fact-finding’ mission in support of ‘peace’ for Syrian people, but characterized US-backed rebels as ‘terrorists’
Sabrina Siddiqui in Washington
@SabrinaSiddiqui
Thu 26 Jan 2017 12.58 EST Last modified on Sat 14 Apr 2018 13.55 EDT




 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
8. We all know what this is really about..
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:18 AM
Aug 2018

you don't have to keep posting that - most really don't think that was a bad thing.. she won BIG, the smears did not work - I think it's time for a new tactic.. challenge on policies, a candidate would have to go MORE progressive to take her seat.. but I am sure TPTB don't want to do that..

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
18. C'mon man..
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:39 AM
Aug 2018

let's not go down 2016 lane..

No, I do not live in her district.. but I watch a whole bunch of fantastic Dems across the country..

mahina

(17,659 posts)
20. You are mistaken. I supported Bernie in the primary and Hillary in the general.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:43 AM
Aug 2018

Bernie won here as you must know, watching and all.

mahina

(17,659 posts)
7. From the Washington Post
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:16 AM
Aug 2018

How Tulsi Gabbard became Assad’s mouthpiece in Washington
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/how-tulsi-gabbard-became-assads-mouthpiece-in-washington/2017/01/29/215e9c70-e4bf-11e6-a547-5fb9411d332c_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e2a6524aa323


The Bashar al-Assad regime in Syria has had a quiet but well-funded lobbying effort in Washington since well before he began murdering his own people. But that influence campaign’s clearest triumph came only this month, when it succeeded in bringing Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) to Damascus and having her parrot Assad’s propaganda on her return.

Gabbard was not the first U.S. elected official to meet Assad. In the early years of Assad’s presidency, several senior U.S. lawmakers publicly traveled to see the young English-speaking optometrist-turned-ruler, in the hope that he might be a reformer, break with Iran and even make peace with Israel. Then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) visited Assad in 2007. Then-Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) led a delegation in 2009.

After the killing began in 2011, however, Assad’s friends in Washington largely went underground and a covert influence and intimidation campaign blossomed. The FBI began investigating Syrian ambassador Imad Moustapha, due to evidence he was keeping tabs on Syrian Americans who showed disloyalty so the Syrian government could threaten their families back home. Moustapha departed for Beijing in 2012, but he left in place a network of friends, Syrian Americans and others who nurtured close ties to the regime and worked on Assad’s behalf.

mahina

(17,659 posts)
9. She quit in the middle of her first term on the city council to run for the house seat.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:19 AM
Aug 2018

She will run for Senate as soon as she has a chance and so will Ed Case who is going to be our other rep.

Our sitting Senators are excellent and make me proud daily. I prefer to keep them.

Count on Tulsi running for President. Be sure to learn about her beliefs including pro India.

She is the only member of our delegation who supported the travel ban. She’s got some odd beliefs. I am not talking about religion which I think is a person’s own private business.

I know how the vote went here and it was predictable.

Cheers.

oasis

(49,387 posts)
19. Mahina thanks for your input on what's going on with Hawaii's political scene.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:42 AM
Aug 2018

I know you to be both a solid Democrat and patriot.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
14. I'm not..
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:32 AM
Aug 2018

DU is not representative of the electorate at large anymore, really anywhere at this point.. maybe WV??

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
16. I would have thought
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:35 AM
Aug 2018

her foray into the foreign policy of Syria would have sunk her. I think she's a twit.

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
31. You mean for Obama haters?
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:12 AM
Aug 2018

Pretty sure she qualifies as one of those based on the nasty things she’s said about him in the past. I’m guessing you probably don’t have a problem with that what with all the fan boy gloating.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
34. Gloating??.. I was sharing information about a Dem candidate
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:32 AM
Aug 2018

that NO ONE had posted about... after all the vitriol directed her way, I thought ppl should be aware of her RESOUNDING victory..

If Tulsi winning bruises your sensibilities.. then I guess you can take it how you wish - bringing Obama into the conversation as a distraction will not work.. Tulsi is the Dem nominee

MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
25. Voters in each district decide who they want on the November ballot.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:45 AM
Aug 2018

That never changes. I don't live in Gabbard's district, so my opinion is irrelevant there.

The same thing is true in every House district. I'm content to let the Democratic voters in each district decide on their GE candidate. I don't understand people who think their opinions matter, but who have nothing to do with a district's election. I'd prefer that they focused on their own and neighboring districts.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
28. That standard only applies... sometimes..
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 09:56 AM
Aug 2018

Gabbard was roundly drug here on DU.. by many not in her district - were you critical then??

If my politics/ policies that I support align with any candidate I will support & promote them.. no matter what district they are in cause that it what is required to affect change..

MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
29. Nope. I almost never comment on House members who are
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:02 AM
Aug 2018

not in or near my own district. Every House race is a local election. I leave them to local voters. And, as we see, Gabbard did just fine in her own district. I don't know much about her district, really.

I do not participate in local elections, except when they are local to me.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
30. Ok, what works for you..
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:09 AM
Aug 2018

if all I did was pay attention to my locals.. I'd get bored very quickly.. although, we finally have a shot of taking back PA11 w/ a progressive from the R's this coming November - the most excitement in years for this red county..

MineralMan

(146,311 posts)
32. Well, I'd be pretty excited about PA11, then.
Mon Aug 13, 2018, 10:12 AM
Aug 2018

I'd be doing what I could to flip it. There's a GOP district near me, where the Democratic challenger has a pretty good chance. So, I'll be trying to help, since my own district is a lock for Betty McCollum.

I get excited by elections where I can make a difference. Distant districts don't excite me at all.

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