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I will not support any candidate under criminal indictment (Original Post) Xipe Totec Aug 2018 OP
Careful what lines you draw. TomSlick Aug 2018 #1
So, you think Trump actually controls the DOJ? Xipe Totec Aug 2018 #2
I think that US Attorneys are Trump appointees. TomSlick Aug 2018 #3
Is Muller a 'good ' Republican? Is Rosenstein? Strzok? Xipe Totec Aug 2018 #4
I wasn't clear. TomSlick Aug 2018 #5
That's why Strzok's rebuttal is important Xipe Totec Aug 2018 #6
Strzok is FBI - not a US Attorney. TomSlick Aug 2018 #9
It's a new world of corruption and ... Whiskeytide Aug 2018 #7
So if HRC came back, I couldn't support her? ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #8

TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
1. Careful what lines you draw.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 09:36 PM
Aug 2018

I can see Trump's DoJ indicting a couple of Democrats just to take off some heat.

Yeah, I'm a suspicious cuss.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
2. So, you think Trump actually controls the DOJ?
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 10:03 PM
Aug 2018

You really think the Department of Justice is corrupt?

TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
3. I think that US Attorneys are Trump appointees.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 11:20 PM
Aug 2018

Meaning they are all "good" Republicans. There are ninety-three US Attorneys. One of them would follow such an order.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
4. Is Muller a 'good ' Republican? Is Rosenstein? Strzok?
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 12:30 PM
Aug 2018

You're saying the Justice Department is corrupt?

Did you watch Strzok's testimony?



“The suggestion that I, in some dark chamber somewhere in the F.B.I., would somehow cast aside all of these procedures, all of these safeguards, and somehow be able to do this is astounding to me. It simply couldn’t happen. And the proposition that this is going on, that it might occur anywhere in the F.B.I., deeply corrodes what the F.B.I. is in this society, the effectiveness of their mission, and it is deeply destructive.

- Peter Strzok

TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
5. I wasn't clear.
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 07:42 PM
Aug 2018

I'm just concerned that there might be a US Attorney out there that would like to make points with the party by creating a diversion.

I hope I am being overly cynical. (I often am.)

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
6. That's why Strzok's rebuttal is important
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 07:54 PM
Aug 2018

Watch the video. It will open your eyes.

Sowing doubt and confusion about the DOJ and especially the FBI is a Republican mantra at the moment. One that we should in no way echo or support.

TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
9. Strzok is FBI - not a US Attorney.
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 08:21 PM
Aug 2018

I'm not casting aspersions about the FBI or the career personnel at the DOJ. I don't doubt the career prosecutors in individual US Attorney's offices.

While US Attorneys are political appointees, I am confident that the vast majority of them are good and professional attorneys. My concern is that it will only take one US Attorney out there looking to make a name with the party to launch a political prosecution.

I'm the worst of all possible worlds, a cynic and a worrier.

Whiskeytide

(4,463 posts)
7. It's a new world of corruption and ...
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 08:10 PM
Aug 2018

... partisan politics this asshole has has wrought in our government and institutions, and we have to stop applying the standards from the past. Meuller and Rosenstein are career professionals from the previous era. They can separate their personal politics from their job. I’m not so sure all of the new guys can or are even inclined to do that. Just imagine if Steven Miller had obtained a law degree in his spare time between klan rallies in college (entirely possible - you can get a law degree in night school). If he had been appointed to an AG position, do you think there is anything he wouldn’t do to push his twisted agenda and that of Trump? I don’t know if there is a Miller among Trump’s appointees, but can you be sure there’s not?

I’m not picking at you, and I’m sorry for jumping into this conversation between you and another poster. I genuinely wish I could say I agree with you that institutions like the DOJ and FBI are above reproach. They should be, and I’m inclined to think most of them still are. But Trump is on a mission to undermine them for that very reason, and I am kind of cynical about what I’ve seen this last year and a half. I never say never anymore when it comes to how low they are willing to go.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
8. So if HRC came back, I couldn't support her?
Thu Aug 9, 2018, 08:18 PM
Aug 2018

Oh wait, she was never under criminal indictment. That was all (and continues to be) just a bunch of GOP smoke.

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