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**DAMN STRAIGHT*** (Original Post) yuiyoshida Aug 2018 OP
I live right in the middle of that mess! leftieNanner Aug 2018 #1
So Am I The River Aug 2018 #19
You better go pretty far up wind leftieNanner Aug 2018 #25
Fuck yes! It is NOT a Chinese hoax ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #2
The air has been hazy here in Vegas for the last week or so. brush Aug 2018 #3
One day last week a friend called me and said, yuiyoshida Aug 2018 #14
We had that same yellow sky from fire smoke in Seattle last summer. Eerie, isn't it? suffragette Aug 2018 #26
The good thing about San Francisco yuiyoshida Aug 2018 #27
Love San Francisco! We don't have many suffragette Aug 2018 #28
I really am praying for all of you........ a kennedy Aug 2018 #4
The planet burns and dolt 45 tweets. sarcasmo Aug 2018 #5
How It Ends Renew Deal Aug 2018 #6
. dalton99a Aug 2018 #7
This Delphinus Aug 2018 #24
I found this link to keep track of the fires. BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #8
we have tampered with the primal forces of nature 0rganism Aug 2018 #9
+10000 Duppers Aug 2018 #10
yup TallMike Aug 2018 #11
I can't see downtown Edmonton TrogL Aug 2018 #12
And Tre45on pardons arsonists central scrutinizer Aug 2018 #13
We haven't seen blue skies in Sacramento for over a week now. Silver Gaia Aug 2018 #15
I live south of all those JonLP24 Aug 2018 #16
K&R! Omaha Steve Aug 2018 #17
And knowing those spineless motherfuckers, it's never the right time to talk about it. Initech Aug 2018 #18
Mount Shasta, CA - an hour north of the Carr fire. GregD Aug 2018 #20
Thanks for posting. Climate change should be on 2020 Dem Convention oasis Aug 2018 #22
K & R. Excellent point, absolutely should on the 2020 Dem. agenda. appalachiablue Aug 2018 #29
K&R montana_hazeleyes Aug 2018 #21
K&R nt LanternWaste Aug 2018 #23

leftieNanner

(15,160 posts)
1. I live right in the middle of that mess!
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 08:21 PM
Aug 2018

And we have had "Hazardous" air quality for weeks. And it's been much hotter this summer than in years past.

GLOBAL GOD DAMNED WARMING! You're right there.

The River

(2,615 posts)
19. So Am I
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:28 PM
Aug 2018

I have the windows closed and the A/C running. I ordered an air purifier that handles smoke and that should arrive tomorrow. If that's not enough I may take a vacation somewhere upwind of California till it's "over".

leftieNanner

(15,160 posts)
25. You better go pretty far up wind
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 04:33 PM
Aug 2018

I'm in Southern Oregon and it's terrible. Maybe head for the coast. We have thought of that.

Good Luck.

yuiyoshida

(41,864 posts)
14. One day last week a friend called me and said,
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:34 PM
Aug 2018

look out your window, its YELLOW outside. Sure enough, the low clouds from fog were mixing with particles and smoke from the fires up north. It drifted southward towards the city and with the low fog clouds turned everything into a hue of yellow. I wish i had a camera , I would have taken photos!!

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
26. We had that same yellow sky from fire smoke in Seattle last summer. Eerie, isn't it?
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 04:49 PM
Aug 2018

Last year, we had the hot east wind blowing that smoke into Seattle. That east wind is usually what drives up our temperatures here.

This year, we haven’t had the strong east wind or as much smoke. But we have still had heat wave followed by a couple days of near-normal temps, then another week long heat wave. Record temps followed by record temps, again and again each summer for the last five or so years. And this year is setting records again, even WITHOUT the normal high temperature drivers.

In Europe, they have noted that their sustained heat and dryness is also happening during what should be a cooler phase of weather. At least there, they report on the clear connection to global warming.

yuiyoshida

(41,864 posts)
27. The good thing about San Francisco
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 05:36 PM
Aug 2018

is that I don't have to shovel snow, but I have done that in Salt Lake City, and it wasn't that much fun. Snow is fine for skiing, bobsledding and all but when its packed in around your house and you are trapped inside, you best have some heat on...other wise you could freeze to death!

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
28. Love San Francisco! We don't have many
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 06:15 PM
Aug 2018

heavy snows here in Seattle either. Good thing, too. Not quite as hilly as you, but we still have quite a few steep ones.
Can't wait until marine breeze returns and stays around for more than a day!

TallMike

(161 posts)
11. yup
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:10 PM
Aug 2018

Clean up your property. 200'. if you have a vacant lot between you and your neighbors, clean it up too.
Use it or lose it...

Silver Gaia

(4,546 posts)
15. We haven't seen blue skies in Sacramento for over a week now.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:35 PM
Aug 2018

The sun rises an angry red, and sets just as angry. The skies are overcast in a dull grayish yellow tone. The haze is visible at ground level like fog. I wake up in the morning with my eyes glued shut, and the scent of smoke in my nostrils. It has been making us feel sick at times, too.

I wonder how many of these fires are naturally occurring and how many are arson.

Initech

(100,105 posts)
18. And knowing those spineless motherfuckers, it's never the right time to talk about it.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:18 PM
Aug 2018


Hey Christians, if you want to go see what a literal version of hell on earth feels like, go stand in the middle of the Lake Elsinore fires during 109 degree weather. Bet you won't last 5 minutes.

GregD

(2,263 posts)
20. Mount Shasta, CA - an hour north of the Carr fire.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 01:53 AM
Aug 2018

I'm an hour south of the Oregon border, and an hour north of the Carr fire. We are suffering, seriously, from all of the smoke from that nightmare.

Here is the current data sheet on the fire:
http://cdfdata.fire.ca.gov/incidents/incidents_details_info?incident_id=2164

But with regard to the OP, here is the reality. I moved here in 2005. In the first (at least) 5-6 years (perhaps more) the Summer temperatures were pretty moderate. Down the hill is Redding, where that Carr fire is playing out. We refer to Redding as "the oven".

And while I realize I'm being redundant, the smoke and air quality here is horrid, but interestingly, that smoke is blocking the sun and our daily temps are a bit better at the moment.

Redding is at 344' elevation at the very north end of the central valley. Their Summer temps are very frequently in the high-90's to mid-100's. It totally sucks down there and I rarely go shopping there as a result. Prefer to go North to Ashland/Medford.

Mount Shasta (3500' elevation) used to be pretty comfortable in the Summer, especially relative to Redding. But in recent years, we have noticed a tangible increase in daily temps, getting to the point that we may not want to live here any longer. Add to that the annual fire season, and the appeal for this mountain-top community is quickly declining.

Look at the temps below, and note how the averages are climbing.

From this link:
https://www.usclimatedata.com/climate/mount-shasta/california/united-states/usca0741/2007/8

Aug 2007
Average high temperature: 86.5°F (normal: 83°F)
Average low temperature: 48.1°F (normal: 47°F)
Average temperature: 67.3°F (normal: 65°F)
Highest max temperature: 95.0°F
Lowest max temperature: 77.0°F
Highest min temperature: 63.0°F
Lowest min temperature: 39.9°F

Aug 2008
Average high temperature: 87.1°F (normal: 83°F)
Average low temperature: 50.5°F (normal: 47°F)
Average temperature: 68.8°F (normal: 65°F)
Highest max temperature: 100.9°F
Lowest max temperature: 64.0°F
Highest min temperature: 57.9°F
Lowest min temperature: 41.0°F

Aug 2012
Average high temperature: 89.6°F (normal: 83°F)
Average low temperature: 50.3°F (normal: 47°F)
Average temperature: 69.95°F (normal: 65°F)
Highest max temperature: 99.0°F
Lowest max temperature: 77.0°F
Highest min temperature: 62.1°F
Lowest min temperature: 43.0°F

Aug 2016
Average high temperature: 90.7°F (normal: 83°F)
Average low temperature: 50.9°F (normal: 47°F)
Average temperature: 70.8°F (normal: 65°F)
Highest max temperature: 100.0°F
Lowest max temperature: 81.0°F
Highest min temperature: 60.1°F
Lowest min temperature: 45.0°F

Interestingly, 2017 is totally screwed up. Probable cause: 45 fucking around with our scientists?

There is no question in my mind that climate change is impacting us. I knew that when I started this post, just from our experience of dealing with warmer and warmer summers, but looking at the actual data is a real eye-opener.

oasis

(49,410 posts)
22. Thanks for posting. Climate change should be on 2020 Dem Convention
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 07:05 AM
Aug 2018

list of priorities for new administration.I hope it won't be too late.

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