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(15,160 posts)And we have had "Hazardous" air quality for weeks. And it's been much hotter this summer than in years past.
GLOBAL GOD DAMNED WARMING! You're right there.
The River
(2,615 posts)I have the windows closed and the A/C running. I ordered an air purifier that handles smoke and that should arrive tomorrow. If that's not enough I may take a vacation somewhere upwind of California till it's "over".
leftieNanner
(15,160 posts)I'm in Southern Oregon and it's terrible. Maybe head for the coast. We have thought of that.
Good Luck.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)brush
(53,876 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,864 posts)look out your window, its YELLOW outside. Sure enough, the low clouds from fog were mixing with particles and smoke from the fires up north. It drifted southward towards the city and with the low fog clouds turned everything into a hue of yellow. I wish i had a camera , I would have taken photos!!
suffragette
(12,232 posts)Last year, we had the hot east wind blowing that smoke into Seattle. That east wind is usually what drives up our temperatures here.
This year, we havent had the strong east wind or as much smoke. But we have still had heat wave followed by a couple days of near-normal temps, then another week long heat wave. Record temps followed by record temps, again and again each summer for the last five or so years. And this year is setting records again, even WITHOUT the normal high temperature drivers.
In Europe, they have noted that their sustained heat and dryness is also happening during what should be a cooler phase of weather. At least there, they report on the clear connection to global warming.
yuiyoshida
(41,864 posts)is that I don't have to shovel snow, but I have done that in Salt Lake City, and it wasn't that much fun. Snow is fine for skiing, bobsledding and all but when its packed in around your house and you are trapped inside, you best have some heat on...other wise you could freeze to death!
suffragette
(12,232 posts)heavy snows here in Seattle either. Good thing, too. Not quite as hilly as you, but we still have quite a few steep ones.
Can't wait until marine breeze returns and stays around for more than a day!
a kennedy
(29,711 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Renew Deal
(81,877 posts)Thats all
dalton99a
(81,599 posts)says so much and on so many levels.
BigmanPigman
(51,635 posts)0rganism
(23,971 posts)Duppers
(28,127 posts)Clean up your property. 200'. if you have a vacant lot between you and your neighbors, clean it up too.
Use it or lose it...
TrogL
(32,822 posts)Smoke from Vancouver Island fires
central scrutinizer
(11,662 posts)See Hammonds in Oregon - the genesis of the Malheur desecration
Silver Gaia
(4,546 posts)The sun rises an angry red, and sets just as angry. The skies are overcast in a dull grayish yellow tone. The haze is visible at ground level like fog. I wake up in the morning with my eyes glued shut, and the scent of smoke in my nostrils. It has been making us feel sick at times, too.
I wonder how many of these fires are naturally occurring and how many are arson.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)It sure is hot.
Omaha Steve
(99,741 posts)Initech
(100,105 posts)Hey Christians, if you want to go see what a literal version of hell on earth feels like, go stand in the middle of the Lake Elsinore fires during 109 degree weather. Bet you won't last 5 minutes.
GregD
(2,263 posts)I'm an hour south of the Oregon border, and an hour north of the Carr fire. We are suffering, seriously, from all of the smoke from that nightmare.
Here is the current data sheet on the fire:
http://cdfdata.fire.ca.gov/incidents/incidents_details_info?incident_id=2164
But with regard to the OP, here is the reality. I moved here in 2005. In the first (at least) 5-6 years (perhaps more) the Summer temperatures were pretty moderate. Down the hill is Redding, where that Carr fire is playing out. We refer to Redding as "the oven".
And while I realize I'm being redundant, the smoke and air quality here is horrid, but interestingly, that smoke is blocking the sun and our daily temps are a bit better at the moment.
Redding is at 344' elevation at the very north end of the central valley. Their Summer temps are very frequently in the high-90's to mid-100's. It totally sucks down there and I rarely go shopping there as a result. Prefer to go North to Ashland/Medford.
Mount Shasta (3500' elevation) used to be pretty comfortable in the Summer, especially relative to Redding. But in recent years, we have noticed a tangible increase in daily temps, getting to the point that we may not want to live here any longer. Add to that the annual fire season, and the appeal for this mountain-top community is quickly declining.
Look at the temps below, and note how the averages are climbing.
From this link:
https://www.usclimatedata.com/climate/mount-shasta/california/united-states/usca0741/2007/8
Aug 2007
Average high temperature: 86.5°F (normal: 83°F)
Average low temperature: 48.1°F (normal: 47°F)
Average temperature: 67.3°F (normal: 65°F)
Highest max temperature: 95.0°F
Lowest max temperature: 77.0°F
Highest min temperature: 63.0°F
Lowest min temperature: 39.9°F
Aug 2008
Average high temperature: 87.1°F (normal: 83°F)
Average low temperature: 50.5°F (normal: 47°F)
Average temperature: 68.8°F (normal: 65°F)
Highest max temperature: 100.9°F
Lowest max temperature: 64.0°F
Highest min temperature: 57.9°F
Lowest min temperature: 41.0°F
Aug 2012
Average high temperature: 89.6°F (normal: 83°F)
Average low temperature: 50.3°F (normal: 47°F)
Average temperature: 69.95°F (normal: 65°F)
Highest max temperature: 99.0°F
Lowest max temperature: 77.0°F
Highest min temperature: 62.1°F
Lowest min temperature: 43.0°F
Aug 2016
Average high temperature: 90.7°F (normal: 83°F)
Average low temperature: 50.9°F (normal: 47°F)
Average temperature: 70.8°F (normal: 65°F)
Highest max temperature: 100.0°F
Lowest max temperature: 81.0°F
Highest min temperature: 60.1°F
Lowest min temperature: 45.0°F
Interestingly, 2017 is totally screwed up. Probable cause: 45 fucking around with our scientists?
There is no question in my mind that climate change is impacting us. I knew that when I started this post, just from our experience of dealing with warmer and warmer summers, but looking at the actual data is a real eye-opener.
oasis
(49,410 posts)list of priorities for new administration.I hope it won't be too late.