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ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:00 PM Aug 2012

Presidential Election History Question

Has any Presidential candidate ever lost his own home State AND the home State of his running mate? I'm reasonably certain no candidate has ever lost both home States and WON, but I was wondering if it had ever even HAPPENED before.

Because there's one thing I know for sure: Rmoney is NOT winning Massachussetts this year. And if my prediction from 2 months ago comes true, and he picks Portman as his running mate, I'm reasonably sure he's NOT winning Ohio (Portman's State) either. So that got me to thinking if that had ever happened before.

I know that even when Walter Mondale got blown out, he carried his home State of Minnesota. Which brings up another interesting question: has any Presidential candidate failed to carry his home State, and if so, did any of those candidates do so AND STILL WIN?

I'm sure we've got some great historians out there who would know the answer to these questions.

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dsc

(52,166 posts)
1. Looks like the ticket of Landon Knox in 36
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:11 PM
Aug 2012

lost both home states. Landon was Kansas and Knox was Illinois.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
11. Born in Iowa but moved to Oregon at age 11 after being orphaned...then to college at Stanford Univ.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:18 PM
Aug 2012

After college he worked all over the world but had a home built in Palo Alto California in 1920 which he and his wife used as as residence when not abroad or in Washington. After losing in 1932 they retired there until his wife died in 1944 at which time he donated the house to stanford U. For what its worth, he's listed in wiki as Hoover-Republican-California.

Same situation at Lincoln who was born in Kentucky but considered to "be" from Illinois, Reagan, Bush 1 etc.

Either way the point is the same-Hoover lost Iowa as well as California.

Here's more about the cool house...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Henry_and_Herbert_Hoover_House







Here's a bit more.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
3. Woodrow Wilson lost NJ in 1916
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:17 PM
Aug 2012

But he won VA, which was the state of his birth. But since he made his political career in NJ, that probably qualifies as his home state.

So yeah, it did happen in 1916. I don't think it's happened since.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
5. Politically, I think your home state is where you made your career
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:22 PM
Aug 2012

And the Mittster made his in Mass., so that's really his home state.

But like you said, he won't win either one so it won't matter.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
6. In 1972 George McGovern running with Sargeant Shriver lost South Dakota and Maryland ....in fact
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:35 PM
Aug 2012

he only carried Massachusetts and DC. While the Shrivers had estates in Massachusetts I believe the primary family home was in Maryland.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
7. Also 1860, a four way race...Stephen Douglas the Democrat lost his home state of Illinois
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:45 PM
Aug 2012

to Republican Lincoln and his vice president Herschel Johnson's of Georgia to 3rd party candidate John Breckinridge.

1920 Cox and Roosevelt (Ohio and New York) lost both states to Harding and Coolidge.

Apparently its a lot more common than I would have thought.

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