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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA historic Trump tell-all
The big picture: Its one of the most striking public reversals in modern presidential history, even though he made a similar point before, and even though it was done casually via an early morning tweet. It involves Russia, Air Force One, a presidential son, shady operatives, allegations of collusion and a federal probe all in one.
Trump tweeted: "Fake News reporting, a complete fabrication, that I am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son, Donald, had in Trump Tower. This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics - and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!"
This is the same president who dictated a statement to the media saying the meeting was about primarily about the adoption of Russian children, not campaign dirt offered by shady Russians with connections to Putin.
https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-tower-meeting-mueller-investigation-tweet-45312664-5ff0-4e89-95f2-df4dab068c15.html
malaise
(269,157 posts)Cock mouth kill cock!
spanone
(135,861 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)prison?
That is what is needed here
spanone
(135,861 posts)trump needs to double/triple down on this....
malaise
(269,157 posts)dothey walk this back.
As they say in tennis- game, set and match.
They are going down starting with Jr.
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Profoundly ironic - it was August 5 - the day Nixon threw in the towel.
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)But in the basement, somewhere I have a newspaper from the day that Tricky Dick threw in the towel..yes...A full newspaper with all the stuff inside, not just the front page....I can tell you what was on TV that day..
.............but we will save that for another time...........
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Mc Mike
(9,115 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Please.
Mc Mike
(9,115 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)But by the look of things the oil operation is moving to Guyana. Why not fuck up another beautiful hinterland.
Mc Mike
(9,115 posts)Raise price/barrel, use mass media to prep the way for coup, keep that newly viable for extraction competition off the market.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)From Lincoln, sort of.
malaise
(269,157 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Stuff stolen from the DNC by Russian Military Intel asset Guccifer 2.0.
And then a bit more than a month later, Wikileaks began doing the same.
Close Trump confidante Roger Stone (and former business partner of Trumps Campaign Chair, Paul Manafort) was in contact with Wikileaks and knew in advance that Podesta's (stolen by Russia) emails were to be shortly released, among other things he said that indicated advanced warning of what Wikileaks had planned.
Then Trump trumpeted Wikileaks over 140 times on the campaign trail, even though the documents they were posting were CLEARLY stolen (and there signs it was done by Russia even then, hence his "Russia If You're Listening" remark).
spanone
(135,861 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Lock the up!
FakeNoose
(32,722 posts)It took place just before "Russia, I hope you're listening...."
That was Cheeto's signal to Putin and the entire nation heard him.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Sept or Oct if memory serves.
And most of the docs were already stolen as of the July meeting.
Papadopolous spilled the beans about 'the Russian Dirt' I believe in April or May.
Don't get me wrong, it WAS a signal that was heard and acted upon, as we know ... but it wasn't the signal to 'start' anything but what happened in the ensuing hours, or at least not that we know of.
mgardener
(1,817 posts)Trump made the remark about Russia
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)with Jr and Manafort.
If so, my bad, and yeah, that's even more incriminating than I thought ...
Edit: Just checked, it was July 27, 2016.
Per the Wiki on DCLeaks, at that point, the leaks had already started:
With the WikiLeaks disclosure of additional stolen emails beginning on July 22, 2016, more than 150,000 stolen emails from either personal Gmail addresses or via the DNC that were related to the Hillary Clinton 2016 Presidential campaign were published on the DCLeaks and WikiLeaks websites.
Though it might be useful to consider whether the NATURE of the info leaked ... changed as of 7/27/16. I'm sure Mueller is 'on that'.
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)... Vlad's crew for emails.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)FakeNoose
(32,722 posts)The Steele dossier says that he sent an audiotape to one of Putin's agents (maybe it was delivered by Michael Cohen?) where he said he would lift the sanctions if he got elected. THAT was done in the summer of 2016 very soon after the meeting at Trump Tower.
"Russia if you're listening" he said later, I think it was in one of the debates, or at a rally just before the debates. You're correct that it was later on, the DNC emails had already been stolen by then. The deed was done!
Botany
(70,567 posts)If it was legal than why the denial from Trump about knowing about it?
BTW the meeting was to get stolen information by Russia in order to rig our elections.
dlk
(11,575 posts)bringthePaine
(1,730 posts)he lies to you, not for you
GusBob
(7,286 posts)I have often wondered which is worse:
Making up the lie......or repeating the lie you know is untrue.....or believing a known liar
Welcome to DU
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,033 posts)randr
(12,414 posts)Didn't his casino get busted for laundering money?
https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/fincen-fines-trump-taj-mahal-casino-resort-10-million-significant-and-long
Nitram
(22,853 posts)Nitram
(22,853 posts)erronis
(15,328 posts)Nitram
(22,853 posts)Texin
(2,597 posts)A person or co-conspirator of a much larger crime or conspiracy involving multiple crimes, admits to the (perceived) least "offense" involved in the overall coverup of the crimes in their entirety. Basically, his defense is that the meeting wasn't a crime just because it took place, because "everyone campaigning for office in the history of politics has always sought so-called 'opposition research" info on their opponents, and that's not illegal". That seems to be his new tack.
Problem with that is that it IS illegal to meet with a hostile foreign government representative hoping to obtain from them such information, especially when there were provable consequences from that meeting forthcoming and damaging to the opponent of the person seeking the "opposition research". And Mueller has that proof. All of it.
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)And it was one lie, not 4K.
FakeNoose
(32,722 posts)MineralMan
(146,325 posts)Trump? More like oil from a deep fryer that has seen too many chicken parts pass through it.
blugbox
(951 posts)He's trying to serve us donuts made from the same vat of oil.
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)Nasty.
Mc Mike
(9,115 posts)Shroedinger's cake.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Mc Mike
(9,115 posts)Last edited Wed Aug 8, 2018, 09:55 AM - Edit history (1)
of dRump yes/no collusion -- has not yet collapsed, into resolution.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Mc Mike
(9,115 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Which could also apply to NK.
Mc Mike
(9,115 posts)Stuart G
(38,439 posts)FOR ALL TO SEE.....8/5/18.....the day Mr. Trump shot himself in the????? don't ask me where
.................................As Sgt. Schultz said............I don't know nothing...............................
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oberliner
(58,724 posts)Where he said basically the same thing (posted above).