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spanone

(135,861 posts)
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 08:28 AM Aug 2018

A historic Trump tell-all

The President of the United States admitted, on the record, that he misled the American people about the infamous Russia meeting in Trump Tower.

The big picture: It’s one of the most striking public reversals in modern presidential history, even though he made a similar point before, and even though it was done casually via an early morning tweet. It involves Russia, Air Force One, a presidential son, shady operatives, allegations of collusion and a federal probe — all in one.

Trump tweeted: "Fake News reporting, a complete fabrication, that I am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son, Donald, had in Trump Tower. This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics - and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!"

This is the same president who dictated a statement to the media saying the meeting was about primarily about the adoption of Russian children, not campaign dirt offered by shady Russians with connections to Putin.


https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-tower-meeting-mueller-investigation-tweet-45312664-5ff0-4e89-95f2-df4dab068c15.html
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A historic Trump tell-all (Original Post) spanone Aug 2018 OP
We have the perfect proverb for this moment malaise Aug 2018 #1
he will tweet himself into oblivion spanone Aug 2018 #2
Is oblivion the name of a Federal malaise Aug 2018 #3
where's rudy this morning? no one is moon walking this one back.... spanone Aug 2018 #4
How the fuck malaise Aug 2018 #5
.....They cannot walk this back....nope this is it..."THE TWEET" Stuart G Aug 2018 #41
A Duer noted the date malaise Aug 2018 #42
A few more words..Incredible..........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and..You may not believe this... Stuart G Aug 2018 #44
It's a particular solitary confinement trailer at Mar-A-Gitmo lagomorph777 Aug 2018 #33
Bwaaaaaaaaaaah! malaise Aug 2018 #34
Fed. Correctional Institution for the Criminally Insane; like Shutter Island. nt Mc Mike Aug 2018 #35
Shutter him malaise Aug 2018 #36
Another vote for Standard Oil on that Venezuela thing, btw. Nt Mc Mike Aug 2018 #38
Well the ex SoS has free time malaise Aug 2018 #40
Never trusted that order of lenin winning boyscout ba$tard. Mc Mike Aug 2018 #45
Skunk smell kill skunk. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2018 #51
Yep malaise Aug 2018 #52
Meeting 'went nowhere' except that DCLeaks was spun up within weeks and started releasing mr_lebowski Aug 2018 #6
if they met, they got the goods....imho spanone Aug 2018 #7
And there is a paper trail malaise Aug 2018 #8
Don't forget the critical timing of this meeting FakeNoose Aug 2018 #20
Not so, 'Russia if you're listening' was considerably later than the July 9th, 2016 meeting mr_lebowski Aug 2018 #22
It was on July 13th mgardener Aug 2018 #25
Really ... read an article about it not long ago coulda sworn it said it was a while after the meet mr_lebowski Aug 2018 #31
My understanding was different servers were hacked that evening after Red Don made the request to... uponit7771 Aug 2018 #29
Yeah, no it was different servers ... Clintons ... now I'ma have to check my dates though ... mr_lebowski Aug 2018 #30
Trump signaled to Putin that he agreed to the terms FakeNoose Aug 2018 #32
Trump, "This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal ... " Botany Aug 2018 #9
Fake President! dlk Aug 2018 #10
to the dwindling minority that voted for this traitor: bringthePaine Aug 2018 #11
I have often wondered GusBob Aug 2018 #28
Means lying 2017 AF One statement was OBSTRUCTION & Don Jr got thrown under bus. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2018 #12
Not the first time he has been in bed with Russians randr Aug 2018 #13
At least he didn't get pee on the sheets that time. Nitram Aug 2018 #15
For someone who knows nothing about it he seems very confident in his his knowledge about it. Nitram Aug 2018 #14
Excellent! It would be best for dump and others to STFU. Please. erronis Aug 2018 #16
On the contrary, Trump is very publicly providing all the rope Mueller needs to hang him with. Nitram Aug 2018 #17
Isn't this what's known as "limited hangout"? Texin Aug 2018 #18
Clinton was impeached for a lie to cover a private matter, not to cover a crime bigbrother05 Aug 2018 #19
That's when the GOP turned impeachment into a political strategy FakeNoose Aug 2018 #21
Some Presidents Come with a Teflon Coating. MineralMan Aug 2018 #23
And now... blugbox Aug 2018 #26
No. Those donuts are being fried in the old Friday nigh fish fry oil. MineralMan Aug 2018 #27
Can't you people just let shitler have his cake and eat it too? Mc Mike Aug 2018 #24
Trump actually already tweeted basically the same thing over a year ago oberliner Aug 2018 #37
The standing wave function -- which represents the equal and opposite realities Mc Mike Aug 2018 #43
Similarly: "Collusion is not a crime vs. Hillary and Democrats should be investigated for collusion" oberliner Aug 2018 #46
Slobbering over Putin in the exact speech where he says 'nobody's been tougher on Putin'. Mc Mike Aug 2018 #47
Also: "I will bring fiery death upon Iran vs. I'd be happy to meet with Iran if they want" oberliner Aug 2018 #49
Heck, that could also apply to NZ. NT. Mc Mike Aug 2018 #50
That is ..........."THE TWEET" hard to imagine..there it is...."THE TWEET" Stuart G Aug 2018 #39
I still don't see how this tweet is different from his tweet from last year oberliner Aug 2018 #48

spanone

(135,861 posts)
4. where's rudy this morning? no one is moon walking this one back....
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 08:41 AM
Aug 2018

trump needs to double/triple down on this....

malaise

(269,157 posts)
5. How the fuck
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 08:43 AM
Aug 2018

dothey walk this back.
As they say in tennis- game, set and match.
They are going down starting with Jr.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
41. .....They cannot walk this back....nope this is it..."THE TWEET"
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 12:14 PM
Aug 2018
............game over......Mr. Trump loses...next player please...

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
44. A few more words..Incredible..........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and..You may not believe this...
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 12:21 PM
Aug 2018

But in the basement, somewhere I have a newspaper from the day that Tricky Dick threw in the towel..yes...A full newspaper with all the stuff inside, not just the front page....I can tell you what was on TV that day..

.............but we will save that for another time...........

malaise

(269,157 posts)
40. Well the ex SoS has free time
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 12:08 PM
Aug 2018

But by the look of things the oil operation is moving to Guyana. Why not fuck up another beautiful hinterland.

Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
45. Never trusted that order of lenin winning boyscout ba$tard.
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 12:22 PM
Aug 2018

Raise price/barrel, use mass media to prep the way for coup, keep that newly viable for extraction competition off the market.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. Meeting 'went nowhere' except that DCLeaks was spun up within weeks and started releasing
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 08:56 AM
Aug 2018

Stuff stolen from the DNC by Russian Military Intel asset Guccifer 2.0.

And then a bit more than a month later, Wikileaks began doing the same.

Close Trump confidante Roger Stone (and former business partner of Trumps Campaign Chair, Paul Manafort) was in contact with Wikileaks and knew in advance that Podesta's (stolen by Russia) emails were to be shortly released, among other things he said that indicated advanced warning of what Wikileaks had planned.

Then Trump trumpeted Wikileaks over 140 times on the campaign trail, even though the documents they were posting were CLEARLY stolen (and there signs it was done by Russia even then, hence his "Russia If You're Listening" remark).

FakeNoose

(32,722 posts)
20. Don't forget the critical timing of this meeting
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 10:21 AM
Aug 2018

It took place just before "Russia, I hope you're listening...."

That was Cheeto's signal to Putin and the entire nation heard him.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
22. Not so, 'Russia if you're listening' was considerably later than the July 9th, 2016 meeting
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 10:27 AM
Aug 2018

Sept or Oct if memory serves.

And most of the docs were already stolen as of the July meeting.

Papadopolous spilled the beans about 'the Russian Dirt' I believe in April or May.

Don't get me wrong, it WAS a signal that was heard and acted upon, as we know ... but it wasn't the signal to 'start' anything but what happened in the ensuing hours, or at least not that we know of.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
31. Really ... read an article about it not long ago coulda sworn it said it was a while after the meet
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 11:02 AM
Aug 2018

with Jr and Manafort.

If so, my bad, and yeah, that's even more incriminating than I thought ...

Edit: Just checked, it was July 27, 2016.

Per the Wiki on DCLeaks, at that point, the leaks had already started:

With the WikiLeaks disclosure of additional stolen emails beginning on July 22, 2016, more than 150,000 stolen emails from either personal Gmail addresses or via the DNC that were related to the Hillary Clinton 2016 Presidential campaign were published on the DCLeaks and WikiLeaks websites.

Though it might be useful to consider whether the NATURE of the info leaked ... changed as of 7/27/16. I'm sure Mueller is 'on that'.

uponit7771

(90,359 posts)
29. My understanding was different servers were hacked that evening after Red Don made the request to...
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 10:54 AM
Aug 2018

... Vlad's crew for emails.

FakeNoose

(32,722 posts)
32. Trump signaled to Putin that he agreed to the terms
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 11:04 AM
Aug 2018

The Steele dossier says that he sent an audiotape to one of Putin's agents (maybe it was delivered by Michael Cohen?) where he said he would lift the sanctions if he got elected. THAT was done in the summer of 2016 very soon after the meeting at Trump Tower.

"Russia if you're listening" he said later, I think it was in one of the debates, or at a rally just before the debates. You're correct that it was later on, the DNC emails had already been stolen by then. The deed was done!

Botany

(70,567 posts)
9. Trump, "This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal ... "
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 09:18 AM
Aug 2018

If it was legal than why the denial from Trump about knowing about it?

BTW the meeting was to get stolen information by Russia in order to rig our elections.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
28. I have often wondered
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 10:53 AM
Aug 2018

I have often wondered which is worse:

Making up the lie......or repeating the lie you know is untrue.....or believing a known liar

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Texin

(2,597 posts)
18. Isn't this what's known as "limited hangout"?
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 09:58 AM
Aug 2018

A person or co-conspirator of a much larger crime or conspiracy involving multiple crimes, admits to the (perceived) least "offense" involved in the overall coverup of the crimes in their entirety. Basically, his defense is that the meeting wasn't a crime just because it took place, because "everyone campaigning for office in the history of politics has always sought so-called 'opposition research" info on their opponents, and that's not illegal". That seems to be his new tack.

Problem with that is that it IS illegal to meet with a hostile foreign government representative hoping to obtain from them such information, especially when there were provable consequences from that meeting forthcoming and damaging to the opponent of the person seeking the "opposition research". And Mueller has that proof. All of it.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
19. Clinton was impeached for a lie to cover a private matter, not to cover a crime
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 10:12 AM
Aug 2018

And it was one lie, not 4K.

MineralMan

(146,325 posts)
23. Some Presidents Come with a Teflon Coating.
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 10:29 AM
Aug 2018

Trump? More like oil from a deep fryer that has seen too many chicken parts pass through it.

Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
43. The standing wave function -- which represents the equal and opposite realities
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 12:20 PM
Aug 2018

Last edited Wed Aug 8, 2018, 09:55 AM - Edit history (1)

of dRump yes/no collusion -- has not yet collapsed, into resolution.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
46. Similarly: "Collusion is not a crime vs. Hillary and Democrats should be investigated for collusion"
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 12:23 PM
Aug 2018
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
49. Also: "I will bring fiery death upon Iran vs. I'd be happy to meet with Iran if they want"
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 12:25 PM
Aug 2018

Which could also apply to NK.

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
39. That is ..........."THE TWEET" hard to imagine..there it is...."THE TWEET"
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 12:08 PM
Aug 2018

FOR ALL TO SEE.....8/5/18.....the day Mr. Trump shot himself in the????? don't ask me where
.................................As Sgt. Schultz said............I don't know nothing...............................
............................................. ...............................................................................

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
48. I still don't see how this tweet is different from his tweet from last year
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 12:24 PM
Aug 2018

Where he said basically the same thing (posted above).

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