General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFour sentences that outline what happened at Trump Tower meeting.
Link to tweet
?s=20
David Frum
✔
@davidfrum
They knew they would be meeting with representatives of the Russian state.
They knew they were being offered Russian state intelligence.
They intended to use Russian intelligence offered by Russian agents against an American opponents.
They did not alert the FBI.
8:13 AM - Aug 5, 2018
The only question in my mind is "Did Trump know about the meeting beforehand?"
My money says he knew.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)To discuss incriminating material on Hillary Clinton with one of the most powerful nations in history, and Trump NOT knowing about it beforehand.
All logic and common sense says he knew about it.
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)Cohen alleges that he was present, along with several others, when Trump was informed of the Russians' offer by Trump Jr. By Cohen's account, Trump approved going ahead with the meeting with the Russians, according to sources.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/26/politics/michael-cohen-donald-trump-june-2016-meeting-knowledge/index.html
allegedly!
Danascot
(4,690 posts)Arguing that Trump knew about the meeting and probably attended by conference phone.
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210941571
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)... but it wouldn't surprise me in the least to learn that he was listening in on a speaker phone.
moondust
(19,993 posts)As in...promising repeal of the Magnitsky Act in exchange for the Russian conspiratorial aid they were getting to help them "win" the election.
Quid pro quo.
struggle4progress
(118,301 posts)dalton99a
(81,526 posts)iluvtennis
(19,863 posts)mgardener
(1,817 posts)What kind of 'boss' is he?
If his trusted people did this, colluded with Russia and he did not know, that what kind of manager is he? Jared Kushner attended this meeting and he is still working dealing with classified info.
What is going on in the WH behind his back?
What about personal responsibility? He's the boss, he is responsible.
trueblue2007
(17,228 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)I don't doubt that he did, but Mueller has to prove it, if he hasn't already.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)Without Donald Trump knowing about it before hand.
Of course he knew.
BigmanPigman
(51,611 posts)Besides that Jr tells Daddy everything since he wants his approval.. "sit, roll over, good boy".
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)Jr. lives to seek approval from daddy because it is Ivanka who can do no wrong in his eyes. She is the wife Trump wished he had.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)I think he's tried to walk it back, but it's out there that Donny Dollhands knew
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)and who continue to support the illegitimate republican misleader & Draft-Dodger-in-Chief
elmac
(4,642 posts)coming from the meeting. May be election rule violations, ect but the lying charge is what gets most in white-collar crimes.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)At least 2 crimes occurred at that meeting- Conspiracy to defraud the US and accepting something of value from a foreign government. There is enough proof in the public sphere to convince most juries, and Mueller has much more than that.
elmac
(4,642 posts)just trying not to set my hopes too high.
sprinkleeninow
(20,253 posts)It is astoundingly mind-boggling in an attempt to absorb/comprehend what went down with these characters.
Our nation, our government, our lives.
I could never have never even come close to imagining.
Mr.Bill
(24,304 posts)I think that when Mueller's report becomes public, we will find that there were dozens of these meetings.
True Dough
(17,311 posts)Not an isolated incident whatsoever.
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)rounds, and dozens of women paid to hush up - hell yeah!! (and thats just for starters!)
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)But Mueller knows.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)And I bet Rudy was there too.
Arkansas Granny
(31,519 posts)For all we know, he had Trump Tower wiretapped.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Are all guilty of conspiracy to interfere in our 2016 election.
The crime is a felony and all of them have been definitively and publicly outed as criminals (and traitors).
I, too, believe that Trump will be implicated, but that won't be revealed until much later in the game.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)He publicly announced that he would soon have new information about Hillary.
Of course he knew.
Baitball Blogger
(46,744 posts)lastlib
(23,251 posts)LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)I'm sure he was there.
malaise
(269,067 posts)That is all
Uncle Joe
(58,370 posts)Thanks for the thread Arkansas Granny
Arkansas Granny
(31,519 posts)When I think of the damage he is doing to our country politically and environmentally, I am outraged that it will take years to recover and what it will cost my children, grandchildren and great grandchildren to put it right again.
sprinkleeninow
(20,253 posts)'written his own ticket'. No sympathy coming from our household.
[Thanx for your post.]
💙🇺🇸🌊
dlk
(11,570 posts)oasis
(49,393 posts)spanone
(135,846 posts)Conspiracy.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Russian state intelligence released the information against their opponent.
Puzzler
(2,505 posts)and Trump was there and also wasnt or something.
A sort of Quantum President.
FFS!
-Puzzler
stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)triron
(22,007 posts)RainCaster
(10,887 posts)That is part of tRump Inc culture -nobody does anything without permission from the Mango Maggot.
triron
(22,007 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)All roads lead to Donald Trump because in his organization, everything Must be about him. ☺
mn9driver
(4,426 posts)he sure knew about it afterward and actively lied and assisted others in lying about it.
That, my friends, is open and shut Obstruction of Justice.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)They committed crimes, covering it up they committed crimes, and by aiding and abetting they committed crimes. By sharing it publicly they exposed themselves for committing treason against OUR country to undermine an election to benefit themselves , and putin .and r
Nitram
(22,822 posts)KPN
(15,646 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,749 posts)Remember, it was never proved that Nixon knew beforehand or was involved in the planning for the Watergate break-in. What took him down was his attempt, revealed in the "smoking gun" tape, to cover it up after the fact by trying to get the FBI to drop the investigation.
Sound familiar?
sellitman
(11,607 posts)You can bet the ranch.