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Arkansas Granny

(31,519 posts)
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 02:42 PM Aug 2018

Four sentences that outline what happened at Trump Tower meeting.


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David Frum

@davidfrum
They knew they would be meeting with representatives of the Russian state.

They knew they were being offered Russian state intelligence.

They intended to use Russian intelligence offered by Russian agents against an American opponents.

They did not alert the FBI.

8:13 AM - Aug 5, 2018


The only question in my mind is "Did Trump know about the meeting beforehand?"

My money says he knew.
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Four sentences that outline what happened at Trump Tower meeting. (Original Post) Arkansas Granny Aug 2018 OP
I can't imagine a scenario where there's a massive meeting in Trump tower with the intention... bearsfootball516 Aug 2018 #1
Logic, common sense, AND Michael Cohen says he knew about it! Leghorn21 Aug 2018 #4
Seth Abramson on the Tower Meeting Danascot Aug 2018 #45
Not only did Trump know about the meeting... PJMcK Aug 2018 #52
Might have also talked about adoptions. moondust Aug 2018 #2
"Will Hillary and Batboy Adopt The Alien's baby?" struggle4progress Aug 2018 #19
Donald Trump knew. dalton99a Aug 2018 #3
Indeed. iluvtennis Aug 2018 #7
And if did not know.... mgardener Aug 2018 #34
MY OPINION. Donald Trump knew and he orchestrated all of it. trueblue2007 Aug 2018 #36
Yep, proving that Trump knew or possibly participated is the only remaining question. Garrett78 Aug 2018 #5
At Trump Tower.....NOTHING goes down...... ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2018 #6
You nailed it. BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #8
Yeppers . .. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2018 #18
Fruity Rudy G already said that Trump knew about the meeting in advance NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #49
They are republican traitors who betrayed America Achilleaze Aug 2018 #9
lying to investigators will be the main prosecutable charge elmac Aug 2018 #10
No, it will definitely be much more than that marylandblue Aug 2018 #29
i hope your right elmac Aug 2018 #40
Your words alone. sprinkleeninow Aug 2018 #42
If you ask me, Mr.Bill Aug 2018 #11
Definitely! True Dough Aug 2018 #16
You betcha, Mr. Bill!! Dozens of meetings, dozens of Mariia Butina-type influencers making the Leghorn21 Aug 2018 #24
We've already heard of many such meetings, we just don't know what was said marylandblue Aug 2018 #31
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2018 #47
My money says he was there at the table. rateyes Aug 2018 #12
If he wasn't physically at the table, you can bet he was there via speakerphone. Arkansas Granny Aug 2018 #26
For now, I'm content knowing every one of the MF'ers known to be in attendance that day Mr. Ected Aug 2018 #13
Before the meeting mainstreetonce Aug 2018 #14
And they lied to the FBI Baitball Blogger Aug 2018 #15
AND to Congress! lastlib Aug 2018 #28
Not only did he know LittleGirl Aug 2018 #17
Russia if you're listening... malaise Aug 2018 #20
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #21
I'm not usually a vindictive person, but I want to see Trump go down and go down big. Arkansas Granny Aug 2018 #38
When he reaps the 'reward' of what he has sown, he has sprinkleeninow Aug 2018 #44
Conspiracy! dlk Aug 2018 #22
Lock the traitors up. oasis Aug 2018 #23
Collusion... spanone Aug 2018 #25
Frum spells it out nicely, but he left out one thing marylandblue Aug 2018 #27
So this is what happened, at the meeting that didn't happen Puzzler Aug 2018 #30
Perfect. My only addition: They knew the Russian State Intel was STOLEN,hacked,criminally acquired stuffmatters Aug 2018 #32
You beat me to it. triron Aug 2018 #37
Of course that micromanaging prick knew RainCaster Aug 2018 #33
I also think they knew this "intelligence" was not obtained legally. triron Aug 2018 #35
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2018 #39
All roads lead to Rome, or in this case... Sloumeau Aug 2018 #41
Even if Trump didn't know in advance -as if- mn9driver Aug 2018 #43
By just showing up for the meeting duforsure Aug 2018 #46
Trump knew. He was probably advised not to attend. Nitram Aug 2018 #48
Ballgame Over! KPN Aug 2018 #50
Shades of Watergate.... The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #51
Meuller has proof 45 knew sellitman Aug 2018 #53

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
1. I can't imagine a scenario where there's a massive meeting in Trump tower with the intention...
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 02:45 PM
Aug 2018

To discuss incriminating material on Hillary Clinton with one of the most powerful nations in history, and Trump NOT knowing about it beforehand.

All logic and common sense says he knew about it.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
4. Logic, common sense, AND Michael Cohen says he knew about it!
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 03:22 PM
Aug 2018

Cohen alleges that he was present, along with several others, when Trump was informed of the Russians' offer by Trump Jr. By Cohen's account, Trump approved going ahead with the meeting with the Russians, according to sources.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/26/politics/michael-cohen-donald-trump-june-2016-meeting-knowledge/index.html


——allegedly!——

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
52. Not only did Trump know about the meeting...
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 11:22 AM
Aug 2018

... but it wouldn't surprise me in the least to learn that he was listening in on a speaker phone.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
2. Might have also talked about adoptions.
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 03:18 PM
Aug 2018

As in...promising repeal of the Magnitsky Act in exchange for the Russian conspiratorial aid they were getting to help them "win" the election.

Quid pro quo.

mgardener

(1,817 posts)
34. And if did not know....
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 04:48 PM
Aug 2018

What kind of 'boss' is he?
If his trusted people did this, colluded with Russia and he did not know, that what kind of manager is he? Jared Kushner attended this meeting and he is still working dealing with classified info.
What is going on in the WH behind his back?

What about personal responsibility? He's the boss, he is responsible.


Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
5. Yep, proving that Trump knew or possibly participated is the only remaining question.
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 03:22 PM
Aug 2018

I don't doubt that he did, but Mueller has to prove it, if he hasn't already.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
6. At Trump Tower.....NOTHING goes down......
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 03:22 PM
Aug 2018


Without Donald Trump knowing about it before hand.

Of course he knew.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
8. You nailed it.
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 03:30 PM
Aug 2018

Besides that Jr tells Daddy everything since he wants his approval.. "sit, roll over, good boy".

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
18. Yeppers . ..
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 04:15 PM
Aug 2018

Jr. lives to seek approval from daddy because it is Ivanka who can do no wrong in his eyes. She is the wife Trump wished he had.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
49. Fruity Rudy G already said that Trump knew about the meeting in advance
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 10:48 AM
Aug 2018

I think he's tried to walk it back, but it's out there that Donny Dollhands knew

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
9. They are republican traitors who betrayed America
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 03:31 PM
Aug 2018

and who continue to support the illegitimate republican misleader & Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
10. lying to investigators will be the main prosecutable charge
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 03:38 PM
Aug 2018

coming from the meeting. May be election rule violations, ect but the lying charge is what gets most in white-collar crimes.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
29. No, it will definitely be much more than that
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 04:42 PM
Aug 2018

At least 2 crimes occurred at that meeting- Conspiracy to defraud the US and accepting something of value from a foreign government. There is enough proof in the public sphere to convince most juries, and Mueller has much more than that.

sprinkleeninow

(20,253 posts)
42. Your words alone.
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 05:30 PM
Aug 2018

It is astoundingly mind-boggling in an attempt to absorb/comprehend what went down with these characters.

Our nation, our government, our lives.

I could never have never even come close to imagining.



Mr.Bill

(24,304 posts)
11. If you ask me,
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 03:43 PM
Aug 2018

I think that when Mueller's report becomes public, we will find that there were dozens of these meetings.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
24. You betcha, Mr. Bill!! Dozens of meetings, dozens of Mariia Butina-type influencers making the
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 04:31 PM
Aug 2018

rounds, and dozens of women paid to hush up - hell yeah!! (and that’s just for starters!)

Arkansas Granny

(31,519 posts)
26. If he wasn't physically at the table, you can bet he was there via speakerphone.
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 04:34 PM
Aug 2018

For all we know, he had Trump Tower wiretapped.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
13. For now, I'm content knowing every one of the MF'ers known to be in attendance that day
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 03:51 PM
Aug 2018

Are all guilty of conspiracy to interfere in our 2016 election.

The crime is a felony and all of them have been definitively and publicly outed as criminals (and traitors).

I, too, believe that Trump will be implicated, but that won't be revealed until much later in the game.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
14. Before the meeting
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 03:54 PM
Aug 2018

He publicly announced that he would soon have new information about Hillary.

Of course he knew.

Arkansas Granny

(31,519 posts)
38. I'm not usually a vindictive person, but I want to see Trump go down and go down big.
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 04:55 PM
Aug 2018

When I think of the damage he is doing to our country politically and environmentally, I am outraged that it will take years to recover and what it will cost my children, grandchildren and great grandchildren to put it right again.

sprinkleeninow

(20,253 posts)
44. When he reaps the 'reward' of what he has sown, he has
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 05:36 PM
Aug 2018

'written his own ticket'. No sympathy coming from our household.

[Thanx for your post.]

💙🇺🇸🌊

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
27. Frum spells it out nicely, but he left out one thing
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 04:38 PM
Aug 2018

Russian state intelligence released the information against their opponent.

Puzzler

(2,505 posts)
30. So this is what happened, at the meeting that didn't happen
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 04:43 PM
Aug 2018

and Trump was there and also wasn’t or something.

A sort of Quantum President.

FFS!




-Puzzler

RainCaster

(10,887 posts)
33. Of course that micromanaging prick knew
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 04:48 PM
Aug 2018

That is part of tRump Inc culture -nobody does anything without permission from the Mango Maggot.

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
41. All roads lead to Rome, or in this case...
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 05:24 PM
Aug 2018

All roads lead to Donald Trump because in his organization, everything Must be about him. ☺

mn9driver

(4,426 posts)
43. Even if Trump didn't know in advance -as if-
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 05:36 PM
Aug 2018

he sure knew about it afterward and actively lied and assisted others in lying about it.

That, my friends, is open and shut Obstruction of Justice.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
46. By just showing up for the meeting
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 05:04 AM
Aug 2018

They committed crimes, covering it up they committed crimes, and by aiding and abetting they committed crimes. By sharing it publicly they exposed themselves for committing treason against OUR country to undermine an election to benefit themselves , and putin .and r

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,749 posts)
51. Shades of Watergate....
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 11:09 AM
Aug 2018

Remember, it was never proved that Nixon knew beforehand or was involved in the planning for the Watergate break-in. What took him down was his attempt, revealed in the "smoking gun" tape, to cover it up after the fact by trying to get the FBI to drop the investigation.

Sound familiar?

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