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Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 01:32 PM Aug 2018

Presidential Indictment

There is disagreement as to whether or not a president can be indicted.

Consider this FICTIONAL scenario:

Don and Melanie have an argument over the TV remote. Mel digs in her six inch fuck me pumps. Don get's angrier and angrier as Hannity's show progresses and he's yelling back and forth at Mel instead of listening.

He grabs a gun from somewhere. Let's say the Secret Service guy who is trying to defuse the situation. In front of the SS guy, his body man, her aide, a butler, and others, he shoots Mel in her abdomen. LOTS of medical help responds.

How can he NOT be indicted for assault if not attempted murder?





Conspiring with Russia to stage a coup in the US is MUCH worse than some old guy shooting his third trophy wife.





Nixon's was a cheesy burglary, and for Dick, it was the coverup, not the actual crime. Red Don is a RUSSIAN ASSET.

I say he CAN be indicted. He, in fact, MUST be indicted.

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
1. I agree with you, and you can come up with even worse scenarios
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 01:35 PM
Aug 2018

He came up with one himself. He could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue. Well what if he did? The law can do nothing because 40% of the people won't care?

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
3. You are confusing arrest with indictment. You can be indicted and still be free...
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 01:40 PM
Aug 2018

to walk the streets, you can be arrested in jail and not be indicted.

The Secret Service doesn't indict people they can and do place them into custody and/or arrest them.

If a President went crazy and started randomly stabbing people I'm sure the Secret Service would place him into
custody, but whether he could be indicted is a matter for the courts.

I don't agree with the argument that a sitting President can't be indicted, but that is the current official position of the Justice department, see: https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/olc/opinions/2000/10/31/op-olc-v024-p0222_0.pdf


PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
8. Also note that even if indicted that doesn't remove him from the Presidency...
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 03:00 PM
Aug 2018

only impeachment or invocation of the 25th amendment does that.

Quemado

(1,262 posts)
4. IMO, the real reason DOJ has that policy
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 02:37 PM
Aug 2018

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DOJ doesn't want to get involved with the political fallout from indicting a sitting President.

Trump should be and must be indicted:

1. Nobody is above the law. Republicans made that abundantly clear when they impeached Clinton over a blowjob.

2. There is a Vice-President that can assume duties if the indicted President is hindered in any way in carrying out any presidential duties.

onenote

(42,715 posts)
9. Only if they were both impeached and convicted by the Senate
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 03:07 PM
Aug 2018

Assuming that the President can be indicted, that alone doesn't remove him from office.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
7. I agree
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 02:58 PM
Aug 2018

I think they already know they can be indicted , and have others floating it can't for pr, and projection more than anything, and i do think trump will be indicted , and for many, many crimes.

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