I'm trying to figure out why this site is called the Democratic Underground

[Snake Plissken]

when it's nothing but Trump 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

[CurtEastPoint]

1. Sits back w/fresh coffee and waits....

[marble falls]

2. If I were you, and I really believed that crap, I'd slither off to another site. Just saying.

[Snake Plissken]

4. See ya

Have fun dedicating your life to Trump, I'm going outside, it's way too nice out for this.

[marble falls]

6. Sour grapes?

[Iggo]

86. Is he gone yet? He is? Okay, everybody hide!

[SidDithers]

60. +1...

well said.

Sid

[marble falls]

70. Thank-you, Sid.

[Hekate]

75. +100

[demmiblue]

3. I'm sorry you missed my post about J Lo's new boots.

Seriously, though, perhaps you should find a place that suits you better.

[Hugin]

8. Wow, impending accident.

Better than a banana peel.

One misstep and it's off to be treated for head trauma.

[demmiblue]

10. They are not connected, thank goodness:

But seriously...

[StuckInTexas]

12. I honestly..

assumed the first picture was a photoshop. What in the eff? lol

[Hugin]

20. Oh, whew.

You never know with high fashion.

Handy little riveted pockets, tho. I might have to look into a pair to supplement my tactical pants.

[Iggo]

63. I'm not sure what I bought or clicked on...

...but Amazon is trying to sell me tactical shorts.

[3catwoman3]

80. I know there is FUGLY...

...for fuckin' ugly. I think we might also need STUGLY for stupid ugly."

Before being reassured that these were not connected, I thought maybe she was taking saggy pants to a new low. I does rather look as if she forgot to wear pants.

[True Dough]

26. Is this better or worse

than a $15,000 ostrich jacket?

[demmiblue]

66. I'm going with better...

considering the wearer.

Ms. Lopez seems like good people, Manafort... not-so-much.

[Hugin]

82. The distinction here is J.Lo is playing with us...

Whereas, Manafort tried to play us.

Big distinction.

[pnwest]

35. OMG!! That's the worst! I really thought her

pants were falling down! HAAHAAAAA!!!

[demmiblue]

39. ...

Link to tweet

[pnwest]

40. Haaaaa!!!!!! omg thank you for that!

[oasis]

100. Beam me up Scottie!

[rzemanfl]

106. Christine can expect a call from fake POTUS. n/t

[The_Counsel]

103. I Thought the Same Thing...

...but then I thought: "with an ass like that, how is it even possible for her pants to just fall down??"

#ijs

[Blue_Adept]

5. You're not wrong

One of the things we used to get during election year, including midterms, was a General Discussion: Election forum that would allow us to talk about the various races, primaries, and all the candidates.

But the admin has largely disappeared and this place is on autopilot, slowly drifting toward its next accident.

[cwydro]

15. You're spot on. Autopilot is a good description.

I wish we had one forum just for those who want to post obsessively about the wanker and what the wanker’s wife is wearing.

[marble falls]

16. You're not paying attention. Admin has adressed that specific request and I agree with ...

reasoning: there's really no partisan fight in these primaries on an off-year election and by and largely the primaries for Nov are over.

For the heck of it I counted the articles on the home page - Trump is only in a third of it which seems about right because he does affect the news - Russia, the election, NATO, EU, trade, NK, Iran, the fact he's pretty certain to be impeached, his family may well be arrested, his associates are being arrested and are being sent to jail ... and on and on and on. He won't hold news conferences, twitter is how he communicates.

How do you want to find out about his excesses: on twitter before or in the press after?

[Greybnk48]

7. We're on defense right now. Why is it odd that most

of the posts are about our current, and certifiably deranged, illegitimately elected, Republican President, Donald Trump? A man who attacks President Obama's legacy daily and is a clear and present danger to our Democracy?

We're on code red defense. What do you want instead?

[stevenleser]

83. Yeah, I agree and I am not sure why that is so hard to get. nt

[Tommy_Carcetti]

9. Yeah, I mean who cares about some lame has been reality show host?

I mean, it’s not like he has any sort of consequen—

(Whispers in ear)

I’m sorry, I’ve just been informed that Donald Trump is actually PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

[Iggo]

11. Trash keyword "Trump."

You're welcome.

[WePurrsevere]

13. "Nothing but Trump"? We must not be reading the same site...

While discussions about Trump are numerous, there are plenty more topics to choose from if you explore the forum and it's groups, etc more (I use the "Latest Threads" tab personally). Of course, much as you did this one, you could also start your own threads discussing what you'd like to.

[demmiblue]

18. +1

Editorials and Other Articles also covers many topics (a lot of them in-depth).

And if all the Trump talk really bothers the OP, he can always use the "Auto-trash by Keyword" function provided by the admins.

[cwydro]

14. I hear ya. Apparently, many here enjoy his rallies

so much that they never miss a one.

[betsuni]

17. "I hear ya. Apparently, many here enjoy his rallies so much that they never miss a one."

Cwydro, what do you mean by this?

[cwydro]

21. Just what I said.

You couldn’t pay me to watch his rallies, but no matter, plenty here watch and post everything said; all the while decrying the press coverage of the same events.

It’s mystifying.

[betsuni]

37. No.

[Ron Green]

19. This site has become much like the mainstream media.

Lots of talk about Trump, very little about the underlying causes of Trump.

[dembotoz]

23. winner winner chicken dinner

sometimes i wonder...................
if there is a better place for me....but i remain and you nailed it

[Iggo]

65. Actually, a bunch of threads get started about white supremacy.

[Raine]

88. Yes, exactly. nt

[DFW]

22. Besides the fact that there are plenty of threads about Congresscritters (present and future)

Trump is doing some very evil things to our country that bear constant monitoring. Not only that, he stands a good chance of being the third president to be impeached in the House and the second to leave office voluntarily before his term is up.

I'm staying for the rest of the show.

[GusBob]

24. I tend to agree

In another thread I tried to point out that it's the people who voted for Trump that are the real problem.

No dice, it's all on him I was told

We are being destroyed from within. Trump can lie and we can become fixated on him and his lies, but some 35% of our country believes his lies

Controlling the mindset and the narrative, right out of the KGB playbook

[Ron Obvious]

25. It's not just Trump 24/7

There's also a lot of unhinged screeching about white people, men, and white men in particular.

[True Dough]

32. Do your part, Ron

This one is instructive...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210963446

[cwydro]

42. Lol. Yes indeedy.

[sheshe2]

49. So

Ron Obvious
25. It's not just Trump 24/7

There's also a lot of unhinged screeching about white people, men, and white men in particular.

So...addressing issues of AA and POC on a Democratic board is just "unhinged screeching?" That people address some white male cops shooting unarmed black men/boys in the back is "unhinged screeching"? We have a WHITE bigoted/ racist as potus that calls Mexicans drug dealers, rapists and murderers and when we address that it is "unhinged screeching"? Wow, just wow.

[Afromania]

52. Yea, hmm, by a rather large margin in particular is how we got to trump 24/7.

[hunter]

67. White men, in general, are clueless about many things.

Are you arguing they're not?

[Tipperary]

79. I am not a white man, but I find your post offensive.

Insert any other race into that sentence and it would be banned.

[hunter]

81. Oh, you better vote Republican then...

[Tipperary]

93. You seem nice.

[LanternWaste]

97. Monday's irony.

Will be Tuesday's bemusement.

natch.

[LanternWaste]

96. I hope discussions of racism don't trigger you.

You seems a wee bit hysterical... in particular, we're all deeply concerned for you.

[Ron Obvious]

107. You're projecting. n/t

[aikoaiko]

27. We are the resistance. It started as the resistance to Bush II

which seem like the quaint old days now.

[zanana1]

92. I thought DU started with the 2000 Bush v. Gore disaster. nt

[aikoaiko]

94. Yes, that's what I meant by Bush II. Bush I coming after Reagan.

[Va Lefty]

28. By my count, on the Latest Threads page, 18 of 82 post are about Traitor don or 22%

Hardly 24-7 of trump

[betsuni]

29. This site was founded when Democrats were the minority party after G.W. Bush was "elected."

Democrats were demonized as hating America, unpatriotic. They felt they had to go underground to support Democrats. Obviously, you are incorrect when you say it's nothing but Trump 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

[steventh]

41. Thanks for the DU history.

I've been wondering how and when DU was founded. I'm glad to now have this information.

[demmiblue]

44. Seven Days Underground

Democratic Underground had its official launch on Inauguration Day, January 20, 2001. Much has happened since then. To mark the passing of our first week, we felt that our faithful visitors might like to read a SLIGHTLY EMBELLISHED first-person account of the highs and lows of launching an underground political website. by Skinner

DAY 1 (SAT) - A GIFT FROM MSNBC
On Friday night, we were up until about 3:00am getting ready for the website's big Inaugural Day Launch. We were hoping to be in bed by midnight, but our intern — a young radical from one of the local community colleges — spilled paint all over our banner at around 11:30, and we had to start from scratch. EarlG thought the intern was trying to sniff the stuff, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were true (he kept mumbling something about how "acrylic lasts longer than this latex crap", but we weren't clear on the context). The rest of us are too old for that sort of thing, but we'll keep him around because he is the only one here that knows anything about programming perl. (Fortunately, he got the "Nuclear Button" script working by 10:00pm, before the can of paint arrived.)

On Saturday, we met at our makeshift "office" in Northwest DC sometime around 11:00am. We were supposed to meet at 9:30, but the intern overslept. He showed up with his own homemade "George W. Ass" sign, but we wouldn't let him bring it to the protests — Newshound thought it was "off message."

We got down to Pennsylvania avenue around noon, and were fortunate to claim a prime location right in front of the press bleachers. Protesters were confined to a few "designated protest areas," and it seemed strange to me that one of those spots would be right in front of the media. I guess the communications geniuses in the Bush camp didn't think of everything. The other protesters seemed to be a mishmash of left-wing types: Some dancing polar bears to protest oil drilling in ANWR; Some free-Mumia folks; Anti-death penalty activists; A pretty large contingent of Seattle-style anti-globalization college kids; and even a guy on stilts to protest, well, I don't know what he was protesting. Like us, lots of folks were protesting how Bush stole the election, but there were far fewer of us than I expected. A sizable chunk of the protesters I spoke with voted for Nader. I thought, if it wasn't for you, I wouldn't be out here freezing my ass off in the rain. But I digress.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/01/01/010127_7days.html

[steventh]

47. That's hilarious! And fascinating!

Thanks so much. Knowing what Skinner, EarlG, and the intern went through to get this site going has made me appreciate the site and them all the more.

[demmiblue]

48. Iirc...I think the SLIGHTLY EMBELLISHED part was mostly about the intern.

[steventh]

50. I'm a big fan of well-done hyperbole.

And Skinner did it so well in this piece. I also especially enjoyed this comment: "A sizable chunk of the protesters I spoke with voted for Nader. I thought, if it wasn't for you, I wouldn't be out here freezing my ass off in the rain." Haha. Too true.

[GreenPartyVoter]

53. And they let me in here anyway.

[peggysue2]

54. Ahh. . . nothing's new under the sun

A sizable chunk of the protesters I spoke with voted for Nader. I thought, if it wasn't for you, I wouldn't be out here freezing my ass off in the rain. But I digress.

Sounds vaguely familiar, no?

Now all we have to do is start learning from the past.

Eyes on the Prize!

[Hekate]

74. I have always wanted to bookmark or save those pages, but don't know how

I didn't know about DU until September of 2002, so the first time I read those accounts of the early days were a real treat.

[sfwriter]

102. Here is the earliest Wayback Machine cache

This link will take you to the page:

http://www.democraticunderground.com:80/" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20010219033913/http://www.democraticunderground.com:80/

The hate mail is instructive. This is what the rabid right said in private back then, only now they make it policy.
http://www.democraticunderground.com:80/mail/hatemail_1.html" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20010219071758/http://www.democraticunderground.com:80/mail/hatemail_1.html

[beachbum bob]

30. its not all about trump 24/7

[greymattermom]

31. Trump thinks reality tv is reality.

Time to cancel his show.

[Turbineguy]

33. It probably seemed like a good idea at the time.

[lpbk2713]

34. I've never watched that asshole speak more than a few minutes at a time.

But I'm glad there are those that post about him on DU. I like to keep track of the lies
and bullshit he tells the public. It's like keeping track of a hurricane or the Zika virus.

[Squinch]

36. You know, when you asked this, you made a thread about Trump. If you don't like it,

why did you add to it? Why don't you post something about another topic?

[blueinredohio]

38. I love this site. I learn things on here before it is broadcast on msm.

And with midterms coming soon I am kept in the loop about candidates. I also love when someone finds dirt on Trump and am looking forward to the day when it's announced congress is invoking articles of impeachment.

[nolabear]

68. I think that's what I like as well. The aggregate reporting is so fast!

Not to give this back to Spanky, but if he thinks the MSM is dangerous he ought to hang out where the aggregate citizen Press is. DU is one of the best.

[GeorgeGist]

43. Same is true of our beloved MSNBC.

[Raine]

89. MSNBC covers no other issues

not the environment, not the judges that are being put in behind the scenes, nothing else but Trump, Trump, Trump. I don't turn them on much anymore, same old, same old.

[Aristus]

45. I keep wondering why they called it the 'Cold War'.

When all anyone ever did was talk about the fear of fiery nuclear incineration.

[JaneQPublic]

46. Opposition to Trump unifies us.

Better to join forces in opposition to a common enemy than to fight among ourselves in the all-too-common intra-party squabbles, e.g., ...

Hillary vs. Bernie
Obama vs. Hillary PUMAs
Dean vs. Kerry vs. Lieberman
Etc.

[True Dough]

51. You are absolutely right!

I was thinking about this thread earlier and came back to post exactly this. I know we're still quite a ways from 2020, but when I read the threads about who will lead the Dems and I see all the dissension (some of it pretty bitter), it is discouraging. Hopefully all that gets put behind us over the coming months, especially after big gains in November. But Trump is the one thing (I won't say "person&quot that brings us together. We can all firmly agree that Dolt 45 is a menace!

[JaneQPublic]

58. By 2020, I hope we "Evil DU-ers" can find a happy medium...

...between the typical Dem "circular firing squad" and the other extreme, which is GOP-style blind obedience to whichever "Dear Leader" shows the best chance of winning.

[TheFarseer]

55. I wish there were more issue discussions

I think we are spending too much time on gotcha type stuff and ignoring for example: the other day Trump floated the idea of indexing capital gains to inflation for taxes. I never saw a thread about this naked giveaway to the 1%

[JaneQPublic]

56. Please feel free to start threads...

...on unaddressed issues you feel are important.

After all, DU is an interactive discussion board, not a carved-in-stone hardcopy publication.

Be the OP you want to see.

[H2O Man]

57. Weather Underground was

already taken?

[marble falls]

71. Maybe the Atomic Rocket All-Stars?

[H2O Man]

76. Didn't they open

for the Bay City Rollers? Hard to remember, as everyone was smoking LSD at those wild and crazy concerts.

[grumpyduck]

59. I tend to agree with the OP

DU has become a place to blow off steam, to re-tweet stuff, to k&r or rec posts, and generally to keep the momentum and the anger going.

As much as I'm beyond pissed off at the current so-called "administration" of this country and all the damage being caused by it, I actually feel better when I skip DU for a couple of days. The anger is still there, but I don't spend (too much) time focused on it. I can take the blinders off and see what else is around me.

As I asked in a post a day or two ago, are we all just singing to the choir? We know we're pissed and disgusted, but what good does it do to sing to each other? Geez, if I get depressed, the last thing I want to do is put on a depressing song.

We need to put that perfectly good energy into getting out there and doing something.

[CrispyQ]

61. Under the DU banner is an array of tabs,

Home --> Latest Threads --> Greatest Threads --> Forums & Groups

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forums

You'll find plenty of non-Trump topics there. And for anyone looking to feel better about the Trump situation, there's the Environment & Energy forum. Get your anti-depressants out & ready.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1127

[Jake Stern]

62. DU is not "All Trump, All The Time"

That being said some folks on here DO have Trump on the brain. They obsess on his every utterance, every tweet, the way he shakes hands, his and Melania's body language, etc.

These are the same ones that post bizarre conspiracy theories about Trump: he's going to cancel elections, he's going to use some big event to be installed as dictator. Pretty much the same thing many Dems said about W.

[GoCubsGo]

64. So, we should discuss something other than the guy who is trashing our democracy?

Do you believe something else is more important?

[dalton99a]

72. +1. Your roof is falling down, but let's talk about the wall covering

and paint color

[msongs]

69. maybe its twitterunderground being that's the most common after trump this and that nt

[UTUSN]

73. "nothing but Trump" implies *SUPPORT OF* which it ain't. "Underground" is *resistance*

Last edited Sun Aug 5, 2018, 05:02 PM - Edit history (1)

first, resistance to Coup 2000, when I guess you would say it was "nothing but BUSH," when it was resistance *to* BUSH. The name means "support of Dems and resistance to whoever is the current Repuke a-hole."

[dameatball]

77. I just come here for the free nachos and the music. So, what did Trump do today?

[redstateblues]

78. Somebody didn't get their nap

[stevenleser]

85. Right, because when GWB was President, we NEVER talked about him. This isn't new.

And it's nowhere near surprising or inappropriate.

Furthering the Democratic agenda involves opposing a Republican President. This isn't hard.

[dalton99a]

98. +1

[Raine]

87. True ... I try hard to find posts with other subjects

which isn't easy, Trump 24/7 makes my eyes glaze over.

[yortsed snacilbuper]

90. We need to expose tRumps crimes,

and he commits them 24 hours 7 days a week!

[NCTraveler]

91. You should read about the founding of the site.

I can’t make sense of your op.

[LanternWaste]

95. I'm certain you are trying to figure it out.

But I can only empathize how much of a real head-scratcher a collective concern for the directly-relevant is to you.

Gesundheit, brave, brave Sir Robin on your irony... you indict others for the very thing you did by starting this thread.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

99. Trump is a President and he's awful and doing a lot of bad things

Pretty much any discussion about anything meaningful involves him in some way. Nobody here supports him though.

[jalan48]

101. Democratic SDS didn't quite work?

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

104. Because he's in power and we oppose him

This aint rocket surgery, son!

[heaven05]

105. that doesn't make any sense

not for you....see ya don't let the door hit you....