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I just realized, Putin's gift for meddling in the elections was a Great White Elephant nt (Original Post) Xipe Totec Aug 2018 OP
What happened after that? NBachers Aug 2018 #1
Now he doesn't want him, can't get rid of him. nt Xipe Totec Aug 2018 #2
Putin doesn't care as long as there is chaos. No matter how the November elections turn out rzemanfl Aug 2018 #3
I really believe Putin's having second thoughts Xipe Totec Aug 2018 #4
Sanctions require a cohesive international community to enforce them. rzemanfl Aug 2018 #6
Let's agree to disagree and see what the future brings. nt Xipe Totec Aug 2018 #8
K. If we have one. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2018 #9
You mean orange orangutan? Kajun Gal Aug 2018 #5
Who else? But you can return an Orangutan Xipe Totec Aug 2018 #7
Did you realize that in demon mythology. Blue_true Aug 2018 #10
Also the name of the demonic cat in Bulgakov's Master and Margarita Xipe Totec Aug 2018 #11

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
3. Putin doesn't care as long as there is chaos. No matter how the November elections turn out
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:36 PM
Aug 2018

a minority or a majority of Americans will not trust the results. I hope it is the minority, the stupid, racist, bible thumping, gun loving shits. They will be a problem, but can be dealt with. If it is the majority, I have no idea how that will play out or what the U.S. will look like afterwards.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
4. I really believe Putin's having second thoughts
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:41 PM
Aug 2018

Trump is too obvious, too stupid. So much so that now people are starting to question this rapprochement with Russia. It's actually backfired.

Putin's objective is not just chaos in the US. That's the icing on the cake.

What he wants is the lifting of sanctions on Russia and that objective is receding with every day that passes.

He will rue the day when he thought this was a clever idea.

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
6. Sanctions require a cohesive international community to enforce them.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:51 PM
Aug 2018

If the biggest, most powerful member of that community is a chaotic, distrustful, embattled mess, what will happen?

He isn't worried about ordinary Russians any more than Drumpf cares about anyone but himself.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
7. Who else? But you can return an Orangutan
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:53 PM
Aug 2018

White Elephant: a possession that is useless or troublesome, especially one that is expensive to maintain or difficult to dispose of.

Besides, the symbol of the Republican party is the Elephant, and Trump is the GOP's Last White Hope.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
10. Did you realize that in demon mythology.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 08:39 PM
Aug 2018

One of the demons is hell is name Behemoth? The demon is a pregnant looking GOP elephant. Behemoth is satan's chef.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
11. Also the name of the demonic cat in Bulgakov's Master and Margarita
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 09:30 PM
Aug 2018

Behemoth

(Бегемот, meaning "hippopotamus" in Russian) An enormous demonic black cat (said to be as large as a hog) who speaks, walks on two legs, and can transform into human shape for brief periods. He has a penchant for chess, vodka, pistols, and obnoxious sarcasm. He is evidently the least-respected member of Woland's team — Margarita boldly takes to slapping Behemoth on the head after one of his many ill-timed jokes, without fear of retribution. In the last chapters, it appears that Behemoth is a demon pageboy, the best clown in the world, who paid off his debt by serving Satan in his Moscow journey. His name (Бегемот refers to both the Biblical monster and the Russian word for hippopotamus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Master_and_Margarita

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