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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy is it that CNN is the main target of
Trumps war on the media? Seems it would be MSNBC. Just wondering.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,733 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)The top 25 cable news shows are all Fox News and MSNBC shows.
The first CNN show shows up at #26.
Of the morning shows Fox and MSNBC also dominate, CNN is not close.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,733 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)He does seem to live in an alternate universe sometimes (usually the Hannity-Limbaugh alternate universe).
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Shown more widely. Say you are trying to keep the MAGAts from seeing the truth. You scare them not to turn on at home. Check. But, you can't stop them from seeing it in an airport, for example. And CNN is worldwide right ?
Rene
(1,183 posts)unblock
(52,253 posts)CNN is owned by Turner Broadcasting system, which is ultimately owned by at&t.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)CNN has a general reputation of "middle of the road" (Fox = right, MSNBC = left in the most simplistic minds)...
For Trump, where ANY conflicting narrative is an existential threat, it is more important to attack CNN than an already assumed 'enemy network'...it also plays to his desire to control ALL media (hence the constant haranguing about NYT and Wash Po as well...).
no_hypocrisy
(46,122 posts)You're a bully. You don't want to waste your time beating *every* kid up to make them your obedient servants.
What you do: You select the biggest kid on the playground and beat the snot out of him and make sure everyone knows it. All the others will fall into line for you after that.
JohnnyRingo
(18,636 posts)I can't remember specifics right now because it was minor, but he started out on the wrong foot with CNN. Since then, they've become his poster child for anti-Trump media, something he felt he desperately needed.
DBoon
(22,367 posts)Someone said something mean about him and he has vowed vengeance ever since, like an angry 2 year old
mobeau69
(11,145 posts)He used nearly the entire tv time to promote his renovation of the old DC post office where the announcement was being held and only at the very end did he sheepishly say "President Obama was born in the US". CNN finally woke up and realized they were being used like a cheap whore. From that moment on they have been on him like white on rice.
The epithany was on full display right after they broke away. I was like "finally"!
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,489 posts)It was the old post office, the one on Pennsylvania Avenue, that was renovated and eventually became the hotel. Union Station is still in use as a transportation center. Amtrak serves it, as well as Maryland and Virginia commuter rail services.
This outrage cannot go unchallenged.
mobeau69
(11,145 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,489 posts)is Richardson Romanesque.
{Edited: "They're," not "There." Sheesh.}
Freethinker65
(10,024 posts)Older fringe conservatives have been conditioned to hate anything tangentially associated with Jane Fonda, thus CNN is obviously liberal and unpatriotic. Fake memes are still made about Jane Fonda and reposted on FB and other social media for the over 40/50 crowd.
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)65/80......I am 67 and the 40s could care less about Jane....way before their time...
Freethinker65
(10,024 posts)I found it odd that he would care about her and pointed out that his meme was entirely false. He gave me some lame ass excuse that she deserved it because he had buddies that served and knew some POWs. I now hide him from my newsfeed, but he had likes on his posted memes from friends in his age group. I was surprised.
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)parroting his DAD'S views...we have many of that kind in my small WI town....sad kids who never have had an original thought...
Different Drummer
(7,621 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)basically created Trump as a national figure. He sold Trump across the nation as a strong authoritarian "winner" on The Apprentice, a show he created for Trump. And he gave Candidate Trump many millions of dollars worth of free air time. and priceless 24/7 media puffery, on CNN. He covered everything. Zucker claims he did it strictly for profits; but whatever his goals might have been, and whoever he could conceivably have conspired with, only a fool would believe that.
Then, after using him to expand right-wing power over the nation, CNN "turned on" Trump by starting to cover him more honestly and responsibly.
Let's remember, Trump was elected as part of a Republican populist rebellion against Big Money that right off the bat rejected all the candidates they brought to the primary. For them, this has all been making lemonade for themselves out of the lemon they have to work with, until they are able to discard it.
comradebillyboy
(10,154 posts)The press has studiously avoided any sort of critical self-examination in the aftermath of 2016.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)I remember CNN turned on Donny Dollhands when he had called a big news conference and then showed up to promote his soon to be opening hotel in Washington DC. CNN people were pretty pissed if I recall. I think it was late August 2016?
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)Its been a concerted effort for 25 years to cast unbiased reporting as "liberal bias"... that's how you move the entire conversation to the right and convince 40% of the population that any news they read is fake.
Qutzupalotl
(14,317 posts)at the request of the Special Counsel. The way Trump singles out Acosta makes me think hes the reporter who has it.
LandOfHopeAndDreams
(872 posts)Where did you hear these rumors?
Qutzupalotl
(14,317 posts)The implication was that it involved sex trafficking of minors through Trumps modeling agency and that Ivanka is complicit.
I admit this is a hard one to swallow. But it does not seem out of character for a guy who feels empowered to walk in on teenage beauty contestants dressing. There are also rumors that Trump went to parties hosted by Jeffrey Epstein, who is also accused of statutory rape by multiple people.
If true, and I stress IF, it does make Pizzagate look like desperate projection.
LandOfHopeAndDreams
(872 posts)There is proof that he is involved in sex trafficking, and the story is being suppressed?
Sounds like one of those things, that if true, will never come out.
Qutzupalotl
(14,317 posts)but it has to be timed so as not to jeapordize other investigations.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Interesting....because Trump's MO is to attack and diminish credibility of anyone who knows more or is smarter or criticizes him. So that part definitely fits
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)Qutzupalotl
(14,317 posts)Unfortunately, I only have rumors at this point.
tparrett62
(268 posts)Keep moving the center right.
kimbutgar
(21,161 posts)Income. If he pissed off NBC whos to say they wont force mark Burnett to release the apprentice outtakes. Twitler wont mess with NBC. Lawrence O Donnell has said this several times on his show. He is very criticial of Twitler yet no attacks on him.
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)nolabear
(41,986 posts)moondust
(19,993 posts)Apparently Spanky used to rail at the NY tabloids years ago. Maybe CNN became another target because of something they did or didn't do back in the 80s or 90s and he never forgot it.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Did interviews with them and got tons of coverage. Definitely the most of any of the R candidates.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Changed on a dime. Why? Someone convinced him not to speak at all. No press conferences either. Not sure when Chris Mathews got him to say "punish the women if they get an abortion" but know that ended up hurting MSNBC's chances to get him to speak to them.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)Trump hates him with a purple passion.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)At least regarding the WH. I suspect its a combination of that and all the above reasons.
mahina
(17,668 posts)would bring more attention to a voice he did not want them to hear.
If the other half of America listened to Rachel once or twice, they would listen more. Then he would be exposed for the obscenity that he is.
He thinks he must fight back or he's giving up. Giving up for him means he looses his gold apartment and plastic wife and his family members are imprisoned, and so is he.
He knows what he has done was wrong and still thinks there's a chance the law can be intimidated; I pray to God he is wrong.
AwakeAtLast
(14,130 posts)As always with this president, follow the money.
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)Maybe not random, maybe he thought CNN more vulnerable. He is creating a perception of a left version of Fox News, one which anyone on the left knows is bullshit. PR in reverse. Media manipulation
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,733 posts)but never mentioned ABC, CBS, or even PBS. Does he have a bug up his butt about NBC in particular among the broadcast stations?
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Going without him ?
Leith
(7,809 posts)Find a weak member of the herd and keep attacking until the prey is yours. Instead of fighting back as a group, the rest run away.
rethugs don't expect any of us to fight back. They become angry and abusive when we do.