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Can someone think of an instance where an autocratic leader surrounded and supported (Original Post) Atticus Aug 2018 OP
The Soviet Union? Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2018 #1
While perhaps not open armed revolution, I think the changes in both Atticus Aug 2018 #3
East Germany. DetlefK Aug 2018 #2
Do you believe there is any chance of such a massive interruption of Atticus Aug 2018 #4

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
1. The Soviet Union?
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:43 AM
Aug 2018

Multiple Eastern Bloc countries in the late 80s and early 90s?

South Africa and apartheid?

Although those were matters of systemic collapse so I don’t think that really counts.

In Ukraine in 2014 the protests turned bloody at certain times but Yanukovych fled on his own choosing and power. Again does that count?

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
3. While perhaps not open armed revolution, I think the changes in both
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:41 AM
Aug 2018

South Africa and the Ukraine were the result of many acts of violence against the ruling faction.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
2. East Germany.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:49 AM
Aug 2018

At one point the people had enough and staged neverending massive civil-rights protests until everything came to a halt. An extended visit by Gorbachev gave them cover, because the state knew they couldn't crack down on peaceful protesters while international media was there. So they waited until Gorbachev had left... But by then the protests had become so powerful that it had become impossible to cover them up.

In order to calm the masses, they planned to make some concessions, but they totally fucked up the press-conference and everything collapsed.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
4. Do you believe there is any chance of such a massive interruption of
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:46 AM
Aug 2018

"business as usual" here? We think getting.one fourth of one per cent of our population to gatherings DC for a day is impressive.

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