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mainer

(12,022 posts)
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 06:57 AM Aug 2018

Are Trump rallies filled with Craigslist actors?

Found this on Twitter:

Alan W. Silberberg
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After having been in and around U.S. politics now for 25+ years and attended 100s of rallies, what we are seeing now is faked. Fake outrage against media. Faked attendance # + always the same level of anger towards media no matter what city. #Followthemoney to craigslist ads.

Search "crowd fillers needed' on Craigslist and google. Tie those ad dates to a week or so ahead of rallies... bang. There it is. Probably in plain sight. Djt rallies being propped up by paid actors being told to scream at media. Not all actors and actresses are beautiful ppl.

some examples already: https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix-breaking/2017/08/20/questionable-craigslist-ad-offers-pay-actors-donald-trump-supporters-phoenix-rally/584350001/ … + https://1075theriver.iheart.com/featured/producer-zac/content/2018-05-30-president-trumps-nashville-rally-allegedly-hired-seat-fillers-for-100/ … +http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ad-actors-trump-rally-briefly-emerges-craigslist-article-1.3436041 … +this explainer: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/crowd-hiring-politics-campaign-2016/399002/ … + more explainer: https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/how-much-does-trump-pay-people-to-cheer-at-his-rallies.html/ … + this points our journos sort of know:

I would add, listings for such things would be spread out through multiple terms, and places, like gigs, crowd, rally, extras needed, actors + actresses needed etc... it won't be obvious like "Donald Trump wants to pay you to support him at a Rally." Will be more surreptitious

Lastly on this. I am speaking as former advance aide to a President + Vice President. I personally organized dozens of rallies. We controlled image, crowd, backdrops, cutaway shots. We controlled as much as we could. Paying for crowd fillers known campaign trick, on steroids now.

PS - There are also organized companies that do this, may not use craigslist but own mailing lists. For example: https://crowdsondemand.com/ + http://www.crowdsforrent.com/services.html obvious for some investigative reporter to start asking how much these cos get from Trump/Affiliated money groups?




If above is really happening, more Dems need to respond to these ads and fill the stands with the opposition.
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Are Trump rallies filled with Craigslist actors? (Original Post) mainer Aug 2018 OP
I have seen one of the ads personally on Craigslist, when he dewsgirl Aug 2018 #1
$100 worth of MAGA hats? DemoTex Aug 2018 #8
Don't they charge forty or fifty bucks for those things? Dave Starsky Aug 2018 #38
Would you get in that mob,act like a True Blue American Aug 2018 #42
Yes, one of those reality ER dramas. Hortensis Aug 2018 #55
Yes, I see trouble going in. True Blue American Aug 2018 #64
Thus the Q regalia and Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #10
Some one asked about all the hats True Blue American Aug 2018 #35
Cnn should ask where they get the Q shirts...probably fed-ex'd to them Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #36
It was clearly staged. kcr Aug 2018 #75
That is so pathetic Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #20
I knew there was something off about that rally and couldn't put my finger on it. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2018 #28
Trump has always controlled True Blue American Aug 2018 #43
The best comparison is with pro wrestling DeminPennswoods Aug 2018 #2
They remind me of the rally scene Soxfan58 Aug 2018 #22
here you go dingosatemyusername Aug 2018 #74
Exactly. peekaloo Aug 2018 #24
Trump and McMahon go back decades. KentuckyWoman Aug 2018 #33
K&R, uponit7771 Aug 2018 #59
In the beginning there is no doubt janterry Aug 2018 #3
Crowd choreographers have been around a long time apparently... FailureToCommunicate Aug 2018 #4
So far it seems... paleotn Aug 2018 #5
And did these $100.00 payments make it to rural counties in 2016 bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #6
Paid for another night at the bar and some weenies for his kids. Course he loves dumpf! erronis Aug 2018 #58
Jack-Pot! Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #7
If this is true moreland01 Aug 2018 #9
We see the truth whenever he goes somewhere that is organized by... Equinox Moon Aug 2018 #21
Unfortunately they are not all we have to fight against. lark Aug 2018 #32
Doesn't It Seem Reasonable That Someone Would Have Penetrated These.... global1 Aug 2018 #11
Maybe they sign NDA's? Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #13
I doubt NDAs would stop this from getting out Amishman Aug 2018 #48
We're just talking. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #49
No reason to believe they aren't already trump supporters relayerbob Aug 2018 #70
Really? Racerdog1 Aug 2018 #12
Witness! peekaloo Aug 2018 #26
You mean all them snowbirds? True Blue American Aug 2018 #44
As one snowbird just pointed out, most of them don't vote in Florida. peekaloo Aug 2018 #46
I checked into buying a Condo True Blue American Aug 2018 #47
Big problems with red tide on SW coast of FL this year. dameatball Aug 2018 #53
Ruin the beaches? True Blue American Aug 2018 #60
I'm not sure yet. My GF has a condo in Venice and she was talking to some neighbors. If it is dameatball Aug 2018 #62
I watched what hurricanes did. True Blue American Aug 2018 #65
I think you take your forum as you find it, and that these folks, if they are what the Op and others Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #50
I don't buy it. Too many people to keep quiet about it. Someone would talk. 7962 Aug 2018 #14
A russian propaganda tactic is to accuse others of what you have done or are doing BSdetect Aug 2018 #15
limbaugh said that about the anti inauguration and women's march protests, saying they were paid certainot Aug 2018 #68
It's a Republican projection tactic going back the past 25 years. Blue_Adept Aug 2018 #77
If true this should be easy for anyone to research. Monsieur_Grumpe Aug 2018 #16
A smart reporter could make her/his career being one of those Squinch Aug 2018 #17
This rings a bell...if we go by 45 and crew's penchant for projection... forgotmylogin Aug 2018 #18
That's why I said, CNN needs to face, politely question & interview those screamers. Sunlei Aug 2018 #19
In Tampa after the "rally" there were screamers who asked Acosta for a selfie. peekaloo Aug 2018 #23
Trump Paid Actors to Attend His Announcement to Run for President dlk Aug 2018 #25
I think there are enough racist, lunatic, whackouts to fill any venue he has rpannier Aug 2018 #27
Good catch. nt NCjack Aug 2018 #29
Sounds like pro wrestling. muntrv Aug 2018 #30
How are they paid? Cash? W-2? Gift? Check? Where does the money come from? bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #31
It's probably a campaign expense. Dave Starsky Aug 2018 #40
Welp, there it is. ucrdem Aug 2018 #34
The Q Zoo. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #37
Crisis actors? Ironic, isn't it? n/t SpankMe Aug 2018 #39
While this is plausible hurple Aug 2018 #41
No oberliner Aug 2018 #45
the people behind him KT2000 Aug 2018 #51
I noticed the children True Blue American Aug 2018 #61
Rent a mob! nt Cognitive_Resonance Aug 2018 #52
Screenshots of ads asking for crowd attendance have been posted on Twitter mainer Aug 2018 #54
me and my hubby would accept a job. and then we would BOO TRUMP !!!!!!!!!!!! trueblue2007 Aug 2018 #56
THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY ME MONEY. i would not take a darn hat. trueblue2007 Aug 2018 #57
LOL True Blue American Aug 2018 #63
I wouldnt wear one of those stupid maga hats if they threatened to cut off my arm... jcgoldie Aug 2018 #72
Today on Deadline WH, Phil Bump said DeminPennswoods Aug 2018 #66
Just Remember: This Cretin Hired the Crowd for His Initial Escalator Decent in Trump Tower! DoctorJoJo Aug 2018 #67
This is one lost cause apkhgp Aug 2018 #69
The Trump folk are real. Trust me. I have lived among them my whole life. Nothing surprising here. Midnight Writer Aug 2018 #71
Awesome info -- if true even in part, needs an investigative reporter on it. nt Hekate Aug 2018 #73
I live in NJ and 3 days before the W-B rally, I got a robocall, no_hypocrisy Aug 2018 #76
Craigslist actors?! democratisphere Aug 2018 #78

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
1. I have seen one of the ads personally on Craigslist, when he
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:04 AM
Aug 2018

did the rally in Melbourne Fl. I believe it was $100.00, then they had to change it from cash to $100.00 in campaign merchandise

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
55. Yes, one of those reality ER dramas.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 02:05 PM
Aug 2018

His crowds are full of right wing authoritarians, who by nature tend to be hostile and aggressive toward outsiders at all times. And Trump's gathering and inciting crowds of them to be very angry. They have strong patterns of being emboldened to attack when in packs, and the parking lots could be as dangerous are in the middle of the arena.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
75. It was clearly staged.
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 06:20 AM
Aug 2018

I read an article about some guy there being interviewed about Qanon. Then another article had the same reporter asking the same questions with the same answers given, word for word only it was a woman. Something is really off.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
28. I knew there was something off about that rally and couldn't put my finger on it.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 09:26 AM
Aug 2018

I'm naive, I had no idea this was a thing.

Controlling the visual impact of a rally, sure. Paying for crowds? Honestly didn't occur to me. How silly do I feel right now!

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
43. Trump has always controlled
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:26 AM
Aug 2018

Pictures of the crowd. All you see is behind him, until the Tampa one where they all pushed to get in fripont of the TVEE.

That woman in the picnic table was cute with that one finger up. Her family is so proud!

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
2. The best comparison is with pro wrestling
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:11 AM
Aug 2018

There are well-established heros (Trump) and villians (reporters) and the crowds know who and when to boo and cheer. That's why you hear the "lock her up" chants even though Clinton has stepped away from politics - it's part of the show and the crowd knows when to start chanting it.

The rallies are just a correographed show, nothing more.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
3. In the beginning there is no doubt
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:21 AM
Aug 2018

that he had filler crowds. IDK about now. We drove 'through' one of his rallies in Tally right before he was elected. It was full of folks who drove in from all over the Panhandle.

They were his folks (well, folks he'd hate irl......but folks who loved him

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
4. Crowd choreographers have been around a long time apparently...
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:28 AM
Aug 2018

"We walk...in the garden of his turbulence..."

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
5. So far it seems...
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:40 AM
Aug 2018

whatever shitgibbon accuses others of doing....he and his handlers are actually doing. Projection at its most awful.

bucolic_frolic

(43,182 posts)
6. And did these $100.00 payments make it to rural counties in 2016
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 07:53 AM
Aug 2018

is that why every last moron who never voted suddenly became a political animal?

moreland01

(739 posts)
9. If this is true
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 08:00 AM
Aug 2018

then it will show itself in the election results this November. If enthusiasm for him is waning, and only people who answer ads to "crowd fill" vote for him and his candidates, then the #BlueWave is real! Let's hope!

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
21. We see the truth whenever he goes somewhere that is organized by...
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 08:36 AM
Aug 2018

an organization not associated with trump, ie, the VFW one. I saw pictures of very few people in the seats. They had to move the event to a smaller location even.

lark

(23,105 posts)
32. Unfortunately they are not all we have to fight against.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 09:37 AM
Aug 2018

What if Russia majorly hacks FL, PA, MI & WI (again?) voter roles, removing a certain % of all Dem votes - we lose. That's why he hires the actors, make it seem like he has more support so it's not so unimiginable that he'd actually win. He's been doin this from day 1 and it has been reported numerous times. In fact, one group of 500 unpaid actors/actresses who went to several events weren't paid and showed up at the WH demanding their $$. They got promptly paid and it was never denied, they said "both sides do it all the time", the standard Hitlerian/drumpf lie.

global1

(25,253 posts)
11. Doesn't It Seem Reasonable That Someone Would Have Penetrated These....
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 08:01 AM
Aug 2018

fake crowds from the other side and go to the media to report that - in fact - they are fake and they are being paid to act on cue at a Trump rally? I would think that such a double agent fake actor could make more money by spilling the beans on Craiglist Listings and Crowds on Demand companies seeding the crowds at a Trump rally. It would certainly give 15 minutes of fame to whomever spilled the beans.

And what about our MSM at these events. Don't you think that they would be wise to such crowd seeding and do a story on such?

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
48. I doubt NDAs would stop this from getting out
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 12:33 PM
Aug 2018

Hidden cameras are easier than ever, and then distribute anonymously online.

Or just ignore the toothless NDA

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
49. We're just talking.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 12:40 PM
Aug 2018

I think a lot of it is willing collaboration. They termed Crisis Actors....this seems like it could be Crisis Crowd Actors. How hard is it to hide a Greyhound or two of people, bc really...thats about all it takes to get the amplification of hate at every "rally". Some of these folks are repeaters.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
70. No reason to believe they aren't already trump supporters
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 12:06 AM
Aug 2018

who could use an extra $100 to supplement their k-mart greeter salaries

peekaloo

(22,977 posts)
46. As one snowbird just pointed out, most of them don't vote in Florida.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:33 AM
Aug 2018

The permanent ones I run across daily are what frost my ass, for the most part.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
47. I checked into buying a Condo
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:58 AM
Aug 2018

In Fla. then decided I enjoy the seasons, low cost in my state. Now I am glad. The area is really coming back. The last ten years under Obama were really good. New companies,rebuilt City.

Amazing what 8 good years can accomplish.

I still love the white beaches there though.

dameatball

(7,398 posts)
62. I'm not sure yet. My GF has a condo in Venice and she was talking to some neighbors. If it is
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 04:54 PM
Aug 2018

affecting their eyes and noses a few miles inland, then the beaches should be worse. But all it takes with this stuff is a prolonged wind change for relief.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
65. I watched what hurricanes did.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:08 PM
Aug 2018

One time the beach was completely gone. Then a hurricane took the top of the nice motel we always stayed in. Huge hotel there now.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
50. I think you take your forum as you find it, and that these folks, if they are what the Op and others
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 12:42 PM
Aug 2018

suggest, could be on stand-by for certain venues. They pick they favorable venues I think, as well.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
14. I don't buy it. Too many people to keep quiet about it. Someone would talk.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 08:09 AM
Aug 2018

And theres not gonna be 1000 NDAs. even if there were, friends of those seen in attendance would "out" them in a heartbeat.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
15. A russian propaganda tactic is to accuse others of what you have done or are doing
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 08:16 AM
Aug 2018

So drumphs accusations about paid actors for democrats is another of his projections.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
68. limbaugh said that about the anti inauguration and women's march protests, saying they were paid
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 08:15 PM
Aug 2018

by clinton obama donors, soros, etc just as he started blaming the "deep state" for planning a coup

that started big time just before inauguration to inoculate the base when they saw massive protests

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
18. This rings a bell...if we go by 45 and crew's penchant for projection...
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 08:24 AM
Aug 2018

DJT always accuses the other side of doing exactly what he and his side are doing:

During the third and final presidential debate, Republican nominee Donald Trump accused his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton of paying people to incite violence at his rallies.

"If you look at what came out today on the clips," he said, "I was wondering what happened with my rally in Chicago and other rallies where we had such violence. She’s the one, and Obama, that caused the violence. They hired people, they paid them $1,500, and they’re on tape saying, be violent, cause fights, do bad things."

He continued: "When I saw what they did, which is a criminal act by the way, where they’re telling people to go out and start fist-fights and start violence. In particular in Chicago people were hurt, and people could’ve been killed in that riot. And that was now all on tape started by her."

In case you don’t know about "the clips," Trump is referring to a video released this week by Project Veritas Action, a conservative group that went undercover to secretly record Democratic operatives discussing plans to cause trouble at Trump events.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/oct/20/trump-says-clinton-and-obama-caused-violence-his-r/

Eric Trump promoted a fake story that claims a protestor admitted he was paid to attend a rally for the Republican presidential nominee.

"Finally the truth comes out!," Donald Trump's son wrote in a since deleted tweet.
But the article links to a known fake news site that uses the URL “abcnews.com.co" to trick people into thinking it's a legitimate story from ABC News.

"For months now, rumors have circulated the Internet that individuals were being paid to protest at rallies held by presidential hopeful Donald Trump. Today a man from Trump’s rally in Fountain Hills, Arizona back in March has come forward to say that he was paid to protest the event," the fake story reads.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/300742-trumps-son-tweets-fake-news-story-about-paid-protesters

Last night, congressional Republicans came home to rooms full of angry people. At town halls across the country, conservative lawmakers were protested, heckled, and shouted at. A few unfortunate souls were even asked to explain — in detail — the GOP plan for replacing the Affordable Care Act.

But Republicans aren’t worried. They’re onto liberals’ cute little game. They’ve realized that these so-called “protests” are, in truth, tactical demonstrations — planned, in advance — by people who want to bring about political change.

And yet, this seems to be a genuine Republican talking point. Two days before Trump’s tweet, Texas senator John Cornyn shared a New York Post article that also tries to discredit the protests by claiming that they are strategically organized.

....

To be fair, “the protests are planned” is a considerably more honest line of attack than the “paid protesters” claim that preceded it. (Presumably, someone realized that if George Soros really were paying every anti-Trump protester, the liberal billionaire would be responsible for more job creation than the president).

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/gop-accuses-protesters-of-organizing-for-political-change.html

Were tens of thousands of protestors across the country paid to walk the streets, hold signs, and chant anti-Trump sayings? Many on social media said the protests were staged and fake.

Thursday night was day two of protesters taking to the streets in Downtown Austin to protest President-Elect Donald Trump. Something causing quite the controversy, it is going around on social media these protests are fake and these people are paid.

http://www.fox7austin.com/news/local-news/protests-across-us-and-austin-accused-of-being-fake-by-some-on-social-media

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
19. That's why I said, CNN needs to face, politely question & interview those screamers.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 08:26 AM
Aug 2018

same with presidents tweets, CNN ask him a direct question repeatedly- "Mr President, what is fake?" and report when he won't answer that simple question.

peekaloo

(22,977 posts)
23. In Tampa after the "rally" there were screamers who asked Acosta for a selfie.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 08:42 AM
Aug 2018

Cheap entertainment for the yahoos. Too damn expensive to go to wrasslin' matches these days. Yahoos are easier to train than parrots.

dlk

(11,569 posts)
25. Trump Paid Actors to Attend His Announcement to Run for President
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 08:45 AM
Aug 2018

He may have been paying for actors even at his miserable inauguration. Everything about Trump is fake, including his tan.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
34. Welp, there it is.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 09:47 AM
Aug 2018

I imagine there's ahem, more to be said, but all I'm going to say is that I respect the Clintons even more for not having played this game and for not having brought it up as they could not have not known what was going on. Hell I knew what was going on because I witnessed it, not the hiring but the insanely exaggerated press reporting. Seemed like an open secret so to speak.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
37. The Q Zoo.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 09:53 AM
Aug 2018

Only the animals are listless, and not very prolific. Easy to pass by for the more exciting views.

hurple

(1,306 posts)
41. While this is plausible
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:00 AM
Aug 2018

And even probable, with tRump's background in TV and ties to pro-wrestling (and pro-wrestling TV does this trick ALL THE TIME to make arenas look full on TV to pump up their popularity), I hate to fall down the rabbit-hole of conspiracy-theory idiocy.

However, there was a time Russia hacking the election and installing a puppet president seemed like a crazy conspiracy theory too.

And this is miles easier to manipulate than that.

So... bring me my tin-foil hat!

KT2000

(20,583 posts)
51. the people behind him
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 01:33 PM
Aug 2018

look like paid ones. The last one had a young girl who was made up like she was in one of those kiddie pageants. Also, their timing was off - they would cheer some time after whatever was said like they were instructed.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
61. I noticed the children
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 04:54 PM
Aug 2018

Were not even listening to Trump and even the adults had just a few clapping when he told another whopper.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
66. Today on Deadline WH, Phil Bump said
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:27 PM
Aug 2018

he was at the rally in Wilkes-Barre and it was clear the attendees were there to see the "Trump show", they could barely have cared less about Barletta or Wagner.

This is a symbiotic relationship: the crowd gets a show and Trump gets the constant adulation he craves and needs. Reporters and commentators are reading way too much into what Trump says during his campaign events. It's just one applause or punch line after another. It's not newsworthy. The people who should be writing about the rallies are the ones who blog for Rotten Tomatoes.

apkhgp

(1,068 posts)
69. This is one lost cause
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:02 PM
Aug 2018

When you have something like this that works off a scam it is bound to end up in a downturn of popularity.


Hekate

(90,714 posts)
73. Awesome info -- if true even in part, needs an investigative reporter on it. nt
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 01:40 AM
Aug 2018

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no_hypocrisy

(46,122 posts)
76. I live in NJ and 3 days before the W-B rally, I got a robocall,
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 06:42 AM
Aug 2018

inviting me to attend. It would be free. Told where, when it would start.

And it was quite random as I'm a very blue Democrat.

It sounded like the goal was to fill the stadium. (It seats 10,000 I think.)

For a robocall to reach out to someone who lives 2-1/2 hours away from Wilkes-Barre says something.

Therefore I would expect a Craigslist ad as well.

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