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Found this on Twitter:
Alan W. Silberberg
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After having been in and around U.S. politics now for 25+ years and attended 100s of rallies, what we are seeing now is faked. Fake outrage against media. Faked attendance # + always the same level of anger towards media no matter what city. #Followthemoney to craigslist ads.
Search "crowd fillers needed' on Craigslist and google. Tie those ad dates to a week or so ahead of rallies... bang. There it is. Probably in plain sight. Djt rallies being propped up by paid actors being told to scream at media. Not all actors and actresses are beautiful ppl.
some examples already: https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix-breaking/2017/08/20/questionable-craigslist-ad-offers-pay-actors-donald-trump-supporters-phoenix-rally/584350001/
+ https://1075theriver.iheart.com/featured/producer-zac/content/2018-05-30-president-trumps-nashville-rally-allegedly-hired-seat-fillers-for-100/
+http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ad-actors-trump-rally-briefly-emerges-craigslist-article-1.3436041
+this explainer: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/crowd-hiring-politics-campaign-2016/399002/
+ more explainer: https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/how-much-does-trump-pay-people-to-cheer-at-his-rallies.html/
+ this points our journos sort of know:
I would add, listings for such things would be spread out through multiple terms, and places, like gigs, crowd, rally, extras needed, actors + actresses needed etc... it won't be obvious like "Donald Trump wants to pay you to support him at a Rally." Will be more surreptitious
Lastly on this. I am speaking as former advance aide to a President + Vice President. I personally organized dozens of rallies. We controlled image, crowd, backdrops, cutaway shots. We controlled as much as we could. Paying for crowd fillers known campaign trick, on steroids now.
PS - There are also organized companies that do this, may not use craigslist but own mailing lists. For example: https://crowdsondemand.com/ + http://www.crowdsforrent.com/services.html obvious for some investigative reporter to start asking how much these cos get from Trump/Affiliated money groups?
Link to tweet
If above is really happening, more Dems need to respond to these ads and fill the stands with the opposition.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)did the rally in Melbourne Fl. I believe it was $100.00, then they had to change it from cash to $100.00 in campaign merchandise
DemoTex
(25,399 posts)Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)Two MAGA hats. Yippee.
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)Fool for 2 hats? But you would be a part of a Reality show!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)His crowds are full of right wing authoritarians, who by nature tend to be hostile and aggressive toward outsiders at all times. And Trump's gathering and inciting crowds of them to be very angry. They have strong patterns of being emboldened to attack when in packs, and the parking lots could be as dangerous are in the middle of the arena.
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)hats clearly freshly out of a box. And a sign.
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)That explains it!
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)kcr
(15,317 posts)I read an article about some guy there being interviewed about Qanon. Then another article had the same reporter asking the same questions with the same answers given, word for word only it was a woman. Something is really off.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)I'm naive, I had no idea this was a thing.
Controlling the visual impact of a rally, sure. Paying for crowds? Honestly didn't occur to me. How silly do I feel right now!
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)Pictures of the crowd. All you see is behind him, until the Tampa one where they all pushed to get in fripont of the TVEE.
That woman in the picnic table was cute with that one finger up. Her family is so proud!
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)There are well-established heros (Trump) and villians (reporters) and the crowds know who and when to boo and cheer. That's why you hear the "lock her up" chants even though Clinton has stepped away from politics - it's part of the show and the crowd knows when to start chanting it.
The rallies are just a correographed show, nothing more.
Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)In the movie The Wall. Maybe someone could post. Or tell me how.
dingosatemyusername
(98 posts)peekaloo
(22,977 posts)and who better to exploit that scenario than a "reality tee vee star".
KentuckyWoman
(6,687 posts)The Jerry Springer show had more class.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)janterry
(4,429 posts)that he had filler crowds. IDK about now. We drove 'through' one of his rallies in Tally right before he was elected. It was full of folks who drove in from all over the Panhandle.
They were his folks (well, folks he'd hate irl......but folks who loved him
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)"We walk...in the garden of his turbulence..."
paleotn
(17,931 posts)whatever shitgibbon accuses others of doing....he and his handlers are actually doing. Projection at its most awful.
bucolic_frolic
(43,182 posts)is that why every last moron who never voted suddenly became a political animal?
erronis
(15,303 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Great article and post. Ty.
moreland01
(739 posts)then it will show itself in the election results this November. If enthusiasm for him is waning, and only people who answer ads to "crowd fill" vote for him and his candidates, then the #BlueWave is real! Let's hope!
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)an organization not associated with trump, ie, the VFW one. I saw pictures of very few people in the seats. They had to move the event to a smaller location even.
lark
(23,105 posts)What if Russia majorly hacks FL, PA, MI & WI (again?) voter roles, removing a certain % of all Dem votes - we lose. That's why he hires the actors, make it seem like he has more support so it's not so unimiginable that he'd actually win. He's been doin this from day 1 and it has been reported numerous times. In fact, one group of 500 unpaid actors/actresses who went to several events weren't paid and showed up at the WH demanding their $$. They got promptly paid and it was never denied, they said "both sides do it all the time", the standard Hitlerian/drumpf lie.
global1
(25,253 posts)fake crowds from the other side and go to the media to report that - in fact - they are fake and they are being paid to act on cue at a Trump rally? I would think that such a double agent fake actor could make more money by spilling the beans on Craiglist Listings and Crowds on Demand companies seeding the crowds at a Trump rally. It would certainly give 15 minutes of fame to whomever spilled the beans.
And what about our MSM at these events. Don't you think that they would be wise to such crowd seeding and do a story on such?
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Just thinking out loud.
Amishman
(5,557 posts)Hidden cameras are easier than ever, and then distribute anonymously online.
Or just ignore the toothless NDA
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)I think a lot of it is willing collaboration. They termed Crisis Actors....this seems like it could be Crisis Crowd Actors. How hard is it to hide a Greyhound or two of people, bc really...thats about all it takes to get the amplification of hate at every "rally". Some of these folks are repeaters.
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)who could use an extra $100 to supplement their k-mart greeter salaries
Racerdog1
(808 posts)Living in Florida, there is no shortage of swamp dweller Orange Asshole supporters.
peekaloo
(22,977 posts)As a Floridian I'm aghast at the number of true believers. I blame the transplants!
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)peekaloo
(22,977 posts)The permanent ones I run across daily are what frost my ass, for the most part.
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)In Fla. then decided I enjoy the seasons, low cost in my state. Now I am glad. The area is really coming back. The last ten years under Obama were really good. New companies,rebuilt City.
Amazing what 8 good years can accomplish.
I still love the white beaches there though.
dameatball
(7,398 posts)True Blue American
(17,986 posts)I hate Spell check.
dameatball
(7,398 posts)affecting their eyes and noses a few miles inland, then the beaches should be worse. But all it takes with this stuff is a prolonged wind change for relief.
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)One time the beach was completely gone. Then a hurricane took the top of the nice motel we always stayed in. Huge hotel there now.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)suggest, could be on stand-by for certain venues. They pick they favorable venues I think, as well.
7962
(11,841 posts)And theres not gonna be 1000 NDAs. even if there were, friends of those seen in attendance would "out" them in a heartbeat.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)So drumphs accusations about paid actors for democrats is another of his projections.
certainot
(9,090 posts)by clinton obama donors, soros, etc just as he started blaming the "deep state" for planning a coup
that started big time just before inauguration to inoculate the base when they saw massive protests
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)Monsieur_Grumpe
(109 posts)Where's the next rally?
Squinch
(50,955 posts)actors and reporting on this.
forgotmylogin
(7,530 posts)DJT always accuses the other side of doing exactly what he and his side are doing:
"If you look at what came out today on the clips," he said, "I was wondering what happened with my rally in Chicago and other rallies where we had such violence. Shes the one, and Obama, that caused the violence. They hired people, they paid them $1,500, and theyre on tape saying, be violent, cause fights, do bad things."
He continued: "When I saw what they did, which is a criminal act by the way, where theyre telling people to go out and start fist-fights and start violence. In particular in Chicago people were hurt, and people couldve been killed in that riot. And that was now all on tape started by her."
In case you dont know about "the clips," Trump is referring to a video released this week by Project Veritas Action, a conservative group that went undercover to secretly record Democratic operatives discussing plans to cause trouble at Trump events.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/oct/20/trump-says-clinton-and-obama-caused-violence-his-r/
"Finally the truth comes out!," Donald Trump's son wrote in a since deleted tweet.
But the article links to a known fake news site that uses the URL abcnews.com.co" to trick people into thinking it's a legitimate story from ABC News.
"For months now, rumors have circulated the Internet that individuals were being paid to protest at rallies held by presidential hopeful Donald Trump. Today a man from Trumps rally in Fountain Hills, Arizona back in March has come forward to say that he was paid to protest the event," the fake story reads.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/300742-trumps-son-tweets-fake-news-story-about-paid-protesters
But Republicans arent worried. Theyre onto liberals cute little game. Theyve realized that these so-called protests are, in truth, tactical demonstrations planned, in advance by people who want to bring about political change.
And yet, this seems to be a genuine Republican talking point. Two days before Trumps tweet, Texas senator John Cornyn shared a New York Post article that also tries to discredit the protests by claiming that they are strategically organized.
....
To be fair, the protests are planned is a considerably more honest line of attack than the paid protesters claim that preceded it. (Presumably, someone realized that if George Soros really were paying every anti-Trump protester, the liberal billionaire would be responsible for more job creation than the president).
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/gop-accuses-protesters-of-organizing-for-political-change.html
Thursday night was day two of protesters taking to the streets in Downtown Austin to protest President-Elect Donald Trump. Something causing quite the controversy, it is going around on social media these protests are fake and these people are paid.
http://www.fox7austin.com/news/local-news/protests-across-us-and-austin-accused-of-being-fake-by-some-on-social-media
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)same with presidents tweets, CNN ask him a direct question repeatedly- "Mr President, what is fake?" and report when he won't answer that simple question.
peekaloo
(22,977 posts)Cheap entertainment for the yahoos. Too damn expensive to go to wrasslin' matches these days. Yahoos are easier to train than parrots.
dlk
(11,569 posts)He may have been paying for actors even at his miserable inauguration. Everything about Trump is fake, including his tan.
rpannier
(24,330 posts)in every state
NCjack
(10,279 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,182 posts)Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)But it doesn't matter, though, because he doesn't pay his bills anyway.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)I imagine there's ahem, more to be said, but all I'm going to say is that I respect the Clintons even more for not having played this game and for not having brought it up as they could not have not known what was going on. Hell I knew what was going on because I witnessed it, not the hiring but the insanely exaggerated press reporting. Seemed like an open secret so to speak.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Only the animals are listless, and not very prolific. Easy to pass by for the more exciting views.
SpankMe
(2,957 posts)hurple
(1,306 posts)And even probable, with tRump's background in TV and ties to pro-wrestling (and pro-wrestling TV does this trick ALL THE TIME to make arenas look full on TV to pump up their popularity), I hate to fall down the rabbit-hole of conspiracy-theory idiocy.
However, there was a time Russia hacking the election and installing a puppet president seemed like a crazy conspiracy theory too.
And this is miles easier to manipulate than that.
So... bring me my tin-foil hat!
They are filled with rabid Trump supporters.
KT2000
(20,583 posts)look like paid ones. The last one had a young girl who was made up like she was in one of those kiddie pageants. Also, their timing was off - they would cheer some time after whatever was said like they were instructed.
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)Were not even listening to Trump and even the adults had just a few clapping when he told another whopper.
Cognitive_Resonance
(1,546 posts)mainer
(12,022 posts)trueblue2007
(17,228 posts)trueblue2007
(17,228 posts)True Blue American
(17,986 posts)jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)he was at the rally in Wilkes-Barre and it was clear the attendees were there to see the "Trump show", they could barely have cared less about Barletta or Wagner.
This is a symbiotic relationship: the crowd gets a show and Trump gets the constant adulation he craves and needs. Reporters and commentators are reading way too much into what Trump says during his campaign events. It's just one applause or punch line after another. It's not newsworthy. The people who should be writing about the rallies are the ones who blog for Rotten Tomatoes.
DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)apkhgp
(1,068 posts)When you have something like this that works off a scam it is bound to end up in a downturn of popularity.
Midnight Writer
(21,768 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)Last edited Sat Aug 4, 2018, 02:59 AM - Edit history (1)
no_hypocrisy
(46,122 posts)inviting me to attend. It would be free. Told where, when it would start.
And it was quite random as I'm a very blue Democrat.
It sounded like the goal was to fill the stadium. (It seats 10,000 I think.)
For a robocall to reach out to someone who lives 2-1/2 hours away from Wilkes-Barre says something.
Therefore I would expect a Craigslist ad as well.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)How about redumbliCON detractors!