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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 02:00 PM Aug 2018

A burger joint...The Incredibles...the deep south...and the N word.

So my brother was at a small burger joint at night a couple of days ago. It's right off the highway about 20 minutes away, but he drives there occasionally because they have great burgers. You order at the counter, then go sit down at tables or booths.

My brother is sitting there eating his burger. He's 65, 6' 1", a big bear of a man. In walk two college-aged gals. Black. Wearing t-shirts that say "I Am Incredible" on the front (except there is an eye instead of the letter I), and on the back is "Don't Look Back." He sees there's a bus outside with a small group of people in it. He figures these gals are from that bus.

They are at the counter to order, when in walk a couple with a child under 10. White. The man is 6' 2" and big. He gets in line behind the gals at the counter. The counter is about 20 feet from my brother. The man turns to his wife and says sarcastically and loudly enough for my brother to hear, "I don't see anything incredible about these two N____s." The two gals turn and look at the man.

My bro looks up, disbelieving what he just heard. Then in walks a young black guy also wearing the same t-shirt & joins the girls. The girls speak quietly to the young man, who is much smaller than the white man. The young man turns to look at the man.

Meanwhile, my brother, who is not shy about voicing his opinion, decides to join the crowd, but it takes him a while to get up because he has a bad knee he can't put weight on. But he gets up and starts walking over to them.

Just then, the man turns to his wife and says loudly, "Let's get outta here before I do something I'll regret later." As my brother approaches, he says to the man, "Yeah...like spill your blood all over this floor, fella." The man and his family walk out & leave.

My brother then chatted with the young people. They were on their way back to Baton Rouge from some event in Houston. They just stopped for burgers. The t-shirts are about the latest The Incredibles movie. So maybe they had gone to see that movie. Not sure.

When my brother relayed this story to me, we were both like...WTH??? I mean, WTH???? My heart went out to those young people. There they are, having a good time with their friends, doing nothing wrong, minding their own business. And someone comes in and intentionally insults them and tries to ruin their day and tries to make them feel like nothingburgers. Ugly behavior for no reason.

He thinks the man left because he was afraid of the young black man, even though the black guy was much smaller & hadn't shown any intent to start anything. As my brother said, the man was just a big coward.

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A burger joint...The Incredibles...the deep south...and the N word. (Original Post) Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 OP
Like Bullies Everywhere genxlib Aug 2018 #1
Yeah. They usu. surround themselves with REAL fighters... Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #9
I call this "The Trump Effect" lapfog_1 Aug 2018 #2
I think this is true. I noticed the racism really show when Obama was President. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #10
I used to call it the "Trump Effect". Now I call it "#Civility". Initech Aug 2018 #18
Please Thank Your Brother Leith Aug 2018 #3
Will do. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #7
Talk to him and tell him to chill it. People like the guy that insulted the two girls Blue_true Aug 2018 #15
I will....again. This is how he is, though. But this is La. My brother is packing, too. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #17
Yes, having guns make it a lot easier, IMO. nt Blue_true Aug 2018 #20
Sad. k2qb3 Aug 2018 #4
Huge difference maxrandb Aug 2018 #5
Nah, no northern states voted for the shitstain. Nah. cwydro Aug 2018 #14
The poster didn't say anything about "northern states". Mariana Aug 2018 #16
I think SC is in the deep south. The cotton states of old. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #8
I have lived in other places in the country other than Florida. Blue_true Aug 2018 #19
SC is the deepest of the Deep South GulfCoast66 Aug 2018 #26
Yeah what a bully coward - picked on 2 young girls to all racist when walking in the place . lunasun Aug 2018 #32
And we're asked to understand their "grievances"? dalton99a Aug 2018 #6
You make a good point. But I think there are some who are redeemable... Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #12
The black women I know would not need a "brother" cwydro Aug 2018 #11
I just reported what happened. Don't shoot the messenger. Thanks for your comment. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #13
Please explain how it's offensive. Everyday on DU there are OPs reporting on racist... brush Aug 2018 #27
Bless your brothers big loving heart!! trueblue2007 Aug 2018 #21
I think so, too. Thanks for noticing! nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #23
Trumpezodian reptiles crawling out from under their rocks. nt oasis Aug 2018 #22
LOL. Okay, I'm going to have to borrow your phrase. Trumpezodian. lol. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #24
Have at it. Spread it far and wide because, "Deplorables" oasis Aug 2018 #25
Ah, yes. I remember the days when "deplorables" was considered a vile term... Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #34
Such a evil fucked up country now...nt heaven05 Aug 2018 #28
When I was a kid my buddy's dad was a Full Colonel, panader0 Aug 2018 #29
What a great story. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #35
That child under 10 who came in with the white man is learning to hate if not already fully primed lunasun Aug 2018 #30
It's past time for black men to open carry everywhere superpatriotman Aug 2018 #31
A lot of people carry in Louisiana. Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #36
Bullies backed by a wanna be president. Ferrets are Cool Aug 2018 #33
I think that's part of it. It's not so hidden, any more. It's in your face, now. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2018 #37

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
1. Like Bullies Everywhere
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 02:06 PM
Aug 2018

Cowards at heart.

Good on your brother for standing up for those young people. We need to do this every time so that these people know they are not welcome in civilized society despite what they orange idol says.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. Yeah. They usu. surround themselves with REAL fighters...
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 08:08 PM
Aug 2018

and gang up on people. Or pick on people that they are sure they can beat up. Or they tote gun power. Like schoolyard bullies.

lapfog_1

(29,218 posts)
2. I call this "The Trump Effect"
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 02:07 PM
Aug 2018

they had to hide their racism for something like decades... and then had to endure a black President who was competent and scandal free...

And they hate it.

So now with Trump in office... no more dog whistles from the repuke party, it is a bullhorn. Now it's all out in the open... and it makes it acceptable and "cool" (to the others like them) to be openly racist again.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
10. I think this is true. I noticed the racism really show when Obama was President.
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 08:10 PM
Aug 2018

I knew it was there, underneath the facade. But I was shocked at some of the things I saw or read, and that it was so many people. And how hateful & hostile it was.

It was held in control then, compared to now. I agree that now, Trump has given his approval for outright fascism, hatred, racism, misogyny, and violence.

I was born & raised in Louisiana. I never saw anything like this incident and other things that I'm seeing & reading now. I asked my brother if I just missed it all, or people hid it from me...he said he didn't see things like this when we were growing up, either. This is new. Or at least it is on the surface, now.

Initech

(100,097 posts)
18. I used to call it the "Trump Effect". Now I call it "#Civility".
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 08:34 PM
Aug 2018

Because of when conservative snowflakes a couple of weeks ago were calling for people to be more civil in the wake of Maxine Waters' comments against Trump and his supporters.

So let me get this straight - their side can make all the death threats, rape threats, harassment and ugly name calling that they want and we're supposed to just sit there and take it? Give me a fucking break! I'm done being "civil" with these morons.

And I tag threads like this with "#Civility" because that way if you're ever in an argument with a conservative friend / relative about Trump and his supporters, you can call these up with a quick search.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. Will do.
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 07:55 PM
Aug 2018

But I worry about him. He's not shy about confrontation, if he thinks it's called for, but he's not young, any more. He could get hurt. But he's a grown man, so his decision.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. Talk to him and tell him to chill it. People like the guy that insulted the two girls
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 08:25 PM
Aug 2018

won't fight, but they do carry and are itching to use guns on people. I can take care of myself in most physical confrontations, but I avoid them because a person can end up dead from a simple punch, or someone can pull out a gun and use lethal force. Just not worth it one way or another.

If I accidentally bump into someone or mindlessly get in their way, I apologize inmediately. Most people are ok with that.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
17. I will....again. This is how he is, though. But this is La. My brother is packing, too.
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 08:28 PM
Aug 2018

That's partly why I worry. Things can get out of hand quickly.

 

k2qb3

(374 posts)
4. Sad.
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 02:20 PM
Aug 2018

I've lived in SC for almost a decade now, I'm from Seattle.

In my experience race relations are actually quite a bit better in SC than they ever were in WA.

I suppose SC isn't the "deep south", but still. A lot of the assumptions people make on a regional basis seem completely wrong to me.

The worst sorts of prejudice seem to persist about the people we don't know.

maxrandb

(15,345 posts)
5. Huge difference
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 02:30 PM
Aug 2018

I don't think the racist assholes in Seattle would have the power of the State standing up for them and espousing their discrimination.

That's the difference. There are racist assholes everywhere, but unlike South Carolina, I don't think you could get elected to statewide office in Washington state running on a racist, dog-whistle platform.

Please spare me the "there are racist in the North too" crap. I know that. I'm more worried about the places that "reward" racism by placing the power of the state in their racist hands.

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
16. The poster didn't say anything about "northern states".
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 08:26 PM
Aug 2018

Why don't you answer what he or she actually did say?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
8. I think SC is in the deep south. The cotton states of old.
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 08:04 PM
Aug 2018

Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, Mississippi, and Louisiana.

I think the heart of the deep south...just IMO....is Alabama and Georgia. It's no accident the civil rights protests, marches, and the Nat'l Guard all took place mainly in Alabama.

I've never been there, so can't say anything about it. All I know about Seattle is from some tv shows.

I think the deep south gets the reputation because that's where the KKK and others did a lot of lynchings back in the day. It also was the area of the country that caused the Voting Rights Act to be enacted. It was hard core, incl. the govt, and institutionalized infringing on the rights of minorities, blacks in particular. In fact, the KKK is still there. There's a KKK group not far from me, my brother says. David Duke lives in Louisiana.

But I can't say exactly how it is here because I lived in Dallas for many years and just moved back. I was just relaying a story that I found shocking. That man may not have even lived in the area.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. I have lived in other places in the country other than Florida.
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 08:38 PM
Aug 2018

We have the confederate tag being shown on mostly trucks, but not even remotely like it used to be. The region is red, but not as much as it used to be when I was growing up. It seems that every 10-15th child that I see is racially mixed, I saw a White guy out shopping with what looked like his about 11 year old daughter. Times are changing here in the south like everywhere else. It is pretty tough for even a racist to hate their grandchild, most people that I know won't do that, not that I know racists, but I do know some hard conservatives who appear to not be well informed on race.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
26. SC is the deepest of the Deep South
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 10:22 PM
Aug 2018

I am from Louisiana. Also Deep South. My wife if from Indiana.

My limited experience is that I hear racial epithets more in rural Indiana than in the Deep South. At least in open social situations. But here’s the deal. Where my wife’s family is from there are no people of color. Here in the south you go around dropping the N word you will eventually get you ass kicked.

The man in your narrative was comfortable using racist language around young girls. Not so much around a black man. And when a white man allies himself with the African American man like your brother did they run like the cowards they are.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
12. You make a good point. But I think there are some who are redeemable...
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 08:14 PM
Aug 2018

They haven't sunk too far down, yet. They are not like these deplorables. They are willing to come back, if the Dems show them that they can address their concerns. And we need their votes...and we WANT to address their concerns. The govt represents everyone. But if we could ship the hard core Trump base out of the country, I'd vote for that.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
11. The black women I know would not need a "brother"
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 08:13 PM
Aug 2018

or your “brother” to stand up to that kind of nonsense.

Cool story though.

Perhaps you don’t understand how your “story” is offensive to women of ALL races. Smh.

brush

(53,815 posts)
27. Please explain how it's offensive. Everyday on DU there are OPs reporting on racist...
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 10:32 PM
Aug 2018

incidents from some part of the country.

Do you mean the what the racist said to the young women was offensive?

oasis

(49,398 posts)
25. Have at it. Spread it far and wide because, "Deplorables"
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 10:16 PM
Aug 2018

misses the pure essence of their vileness.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
34. Ah, yes. I remember the days when "deplorables" was considered a vile term...
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:30 AM
Aug 2018

how far they've sunk since then.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
29. When I was a kid my buddy's dad was a Full Colonel,
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 10:38 PM
Aug 2018

a West Point grad, a fighter pilot ace and POW in WWII. A tough guy.
Later in life, after he retired as a general, he lost a tooth in a bar room
fight, helping a Native American take on a couple of bikers.
After all he had been through, he was proudest of that gap in his teeth.
Good on your brother.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
35. What a great story.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:40 AM
Aug 2018

My brother seems to have no fear, tho I worry about his inclination to get involved in things. He's not young, any more.

Great story about the former General losing his tooth. A true hero.

superpatriotman

(6,252 posts)
31. It's past time for black men to open carry everywhere
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 11:04 PM
Aug 2018

They are an endangered group, and need to exercise their second amendment rights to protect themselves.

Not sarcasm.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
36. A lot of people carry in Louisiana.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 10:42 AM
Aug 2018

My brother has guns in his truck. Some open carry. I'm not afraid of guns, but all these guns being in the hands of ordinary citizens gets me nervous. It's too easy to press a trigger in a rash hot-tempered moment.

I have a gun at home for protection, and I know how to use it. I'd be scared to death if someone broke in, but I sure would use my gun if necessary.

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