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kpete

(72,006 posts)
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 10:21 AM Aug 2018

Trump cannot lie about his obstruction, because there are many witnesses to it.

Here's the real reason Trump's lawyers fear an interview with Mueller.

Trump cannot lie about his obstruction, because there are many witnesses to it.

But Trump cannot *tell the truth* about it, because that would be incriminating as well.






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But whether Trump believes he said this or not, Giuliani plainly fears that Mueller will believe the testimony of other witnesses to Trump’s conduct over that of Trump himself. It bears pointing out that there is a lot of this conduct, far beyond what Trump said about Flynn. There was Trump’s demand for Comey’s loyalty. There was Trump’s decision to fire Comey when that loyalty wasn’t forthcoming. There was Trump’s repeated rage sessions at Attorney General Jeff Sessions for failing to protect him from the probe, which include a direct order from Trump to his White House counsel to stop Sessions from recusing himself, which failed, causing Trump to erupt in fury once again at Sessions for failing to shield him. There was Trump’s similar order (which also failed) for the firing of Mueller.

There are witnesses to Trump’s conduct in many of these cases. Trump reportedly had conversations with top White House officials that indicated he knew Flynn was under criminal investigation when he pressed Comey to drop the probe into him. There are reportedly written memos attesting to this. Comey kept extemporaneous, detailed notes of his conversations with Trump, and Comey confided in other officials about them at the time. And so on. Thus, when Giuliani says he fears Mueller will believe other witnesses, should they contradict Trump’s testimony about his conduct, there’s good reason for it. This is not a position of strength.

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Trump’s real problem is almost certainly that he can’t lie to Mueller about his conduct or tell him the truth about it. This does not mean Mueller will definitely find that Trump’s obstruction was criminal (which might not happen) or that Trump will be indicted for it (which certainly won’t). But either way, Mueller will still submit a report on Trump’s obstruction (and collusion as well), and anything Trump says will figure into that report. Meanwhile, looming in the background is the increasing possibility of a Democratic takeover of the House, and with it, the possibility of impeachment. Mueller’s report will depict Trump’s conduct in great new detail that we can only guess at.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/08/02/trumps-lawyers-fear-a-mueller-interview-the-reason-why-reveals-the-danger-trump-faces/?utm_term=.47c33060a910
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Trump cannot lie about his obstruction, because there are many witnesses to it. (Original Post) kpete Aug 2018 OP
LOL! I guarantee he will anyway. Squinch Aug 2018 #1
If you look at his tweet of yesterdays Jarqui Aug 2018 #2
if donnie had half a brain (open question, i know) he would refuse to answer any questions. unblock Aug 2018 #3

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
2. If you look at his tweet of yesterdays
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 10:40 AM
Aug 2018

saying Sessions should shut Mueller down ...







".... Attorney General Jeff Sessions should stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further. Bob Mueller is totally conflicted, and his 17 Angry Democrats that are doing his dirty work are a disgrace to USA!"

" ... Mueller is going to protect these guys. Mueller has an interest in creating the illusion of objectivity around his investigation.”"

Why would someone advocating that 'want' to speak with Mueller given how Trump described Mueller above?

Trump has no intention of ever speaking with Robert Mueller and he never will. It's just a PR game for his dead head supporters.

unblock

(52,286 posts)
3. if donnie had half a brain (open question, i know) he would refuse to answer any questions.
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 10:40 AM
Aug 2018

either on a fifth amendment basis or the good old "i don't remember" line.

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