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lark
(23,138 posts)Kept seeing stupid stuff so I kicked them off my FB page and reported them as fake news.
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)Kirsten Gillibrand is allowed to make mistakes.
Hillary Clinton is allowed to make mistakes.
President Obama is allowed to make mistakes.
We are all allowed to make mistakes.
...Especially while under propaganda attack from Putin, Republicans and clueless teen trolls amplifying misinformation.
Democracy Now has generally been on the front lines and their work has brought to light deep injustices against blacks, latinos, women, the LGBTQ community.
Work to enlighten, not to throw all our babies out with the bathwater.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)The test should be whether a person or an organization learns from their mistakes. Jennifer Rubin of the Washington Post has been in the past a full-throated cheerleader for the worst Republican excesses. Since the advent of Trump, though, she has changed her tune considerably. I'm still a bit wary of her, but she's used her previous conservative bona fides to good effect in calling out the administration and its craven toadies in Congress.
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)lark
(23,138 posts)I didn't use one word he would use except fake news, and when Russia is planting all these fake sites all over and especially on FB , how can you think it's just drumpf that would use those 2 words? There were no misspellings and no misuse of language, so I definitely disagree with your opinion. How could it be drumpf when there were no lies? In case you have this confusion often, if drumpf is saying something, or tweeting something, it's always a lie.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)did not include an AOC endorsement
empedocles
(15,751 posts)louis c
(8,652 posts)So, in late 1945, a Nazi is questioned by the conquering allied forces. He says he became a Nazi in the 1932 election of Adolf Hitler. Even though he didn't like everything Hitler said, he just couldn't bring himself to vote for Otto Wels because Otto was so boring.
I guess the German Nazi thought he was voting for the "lesser of two evils", but just miscalculated by a smidgen.
ffr
(22,671 posts)Link?
louis c
(8,652 posts)I have no link, but I'm sure a lot of Germans thought of Otto Wels the same way a lot of Americans thought of Hillary.
That's the point
Some German history I'll have to Google then, because your hypothetical analogy would then be brass tax scary.
Thanks!
louis c
(8,652 posts)But he was the chief negotiator to the Versailles Treaty, the treaty that ended WWI. He headed up the Christian Democratic Party, the party in power during the great world wide depression in the early 1930's.
The comparisons between Hitler and Wels were very similar to Trump and Clinton.
Cha
(297,503 posts)ffr
(22,671 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,249 posts)Trump is the same as Nixon. No difference.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,873 posts)and I don't recall them ever suggesting that a Clinton Presidency would have been as bad or worse than a Trump Presidency. Like a lot of us, they weren't convinced that Clinton was the best possible candidate in 2016, but it certainly felt to me as though they supported her (to whatever extent they ever support a candidate) once she was the nominee.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,873 posts)to find those.
Democracy Now often goes off and looks at corners of things no one else is bothering to cover, and admittedly Amy Goodman tends to cover events in East Timor that pretty much no one outside of that place cares much about, but I find that I'm remarkably well informed about what's happening because I listen to that broadcast regularly. I also listen to some BBC news most days.
I started giving up on NPR when back in 1992 they, certainly in the form of Cokie Roberts, were completely confident that not only would President Bush win re-election most handily, but as far as they were concerned there was no way on god's green earth that Bill Clinton would win the Democratic nomination. For me it was the beginning of their slide to the dark side.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Just read the headlines in the link I posted and go back a bit in time from before the election.
They are NOT the Democratic Party's ally.
In fact, in many ways, they are the enemy.
They hated Hillary.