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"Isn't it ironic" (Original Post) SHRED Aug 2018 OP
Another site I've banned from my FB page. lark Aug 2018 #1
Democracy Now is allowed to make mistakes. DemocracyMouse Aug 2018 #10
👍🏼 dae Aug 2018 #11
I agree gratuitous Aug 2018 #13
Lark, your language sounds a lot like Trump's/Putin's. Weird. DemocracyMouse Aug 2018 #16
Don't know why you would say that? lark Aug 2018 #22
Interesting how they're desperately trying to deflect from their own actions. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2018 #2
Note that Obama's 'big heart' careful, endorsement list of 81 empedocles Aug 2018 #3
'could not' include an AOC endorsement? empedocles Aug 2018 #5
An Analogy and an Irony louis c Aug 2018 #4
THat would be an interesting read. ffr Aug 2018 #8
It's an analogy. louis c Aug 2018 #12
Fixed. ffr Aug 2018 #19
Otto Wels was a very good man louis c Aug 2018 #20
They're Full of Shit. Cha Aug 2018 #6
Ouch! Honesty stings. ffr Aug 2018 #7
Just keep telling Trumpies bucolic_frolic Aug 2018 #9
I listen to Democracy Now! just about every day, PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #14
Where's the Trump headlines? SHRED Aug 2018 #15
I am not going to look at every broadcast they did PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #17
You don't have to look at "every broadcast" SHRED Aug 2018 #18
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2018 #21

lark

(23,138 posts)
1. Another site I've banned from my FB page.
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 09:55 AM
Aug 2018

Kept seeing stupid stuff so I kicked them off my FB page and reported them as fake news.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
10. Democracy Now is allowed to make mistakes.
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 12:08 PM
Aug 2018

Kirsten Gillibrand is allowed to make mistakes.
Hillary Clinton is allowed to make mistakes.
President Obama is allowed to make mistakes.
We are all allowed to make mistakes.
...Especially while under propaganda attack from Putin, Republicans and clueless teen trolls amplifying misinformation.

Democracy Now has generally been on the front lines and their work has brought to light deep injustices against blacks, latinos, women, the LGBTQ community.

Work to enlighten, not to throw all our babies out with the bathwater.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. I agree
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 12:30 PM
Aug 2018

The test should be whether a person or an organization learns from their mistakes. Jennifer Rubin of the Washington Post has been in the past a full-throated cheerleader for the worst Republican excesses. Since the advent of Trump, though, she has changed her tune considerably. I'm still a bit wary of her, but she's used her previous conservative bona fides to good effect in calling out the administration and its craven toadies in Congress.

lark

(23,138 posts)
22. Don't know why you would say that?
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 02:31 PM
Aug 2018

I didn't use one word he would use except fake news, and when Russia is planting all these fake sites all over and especially on FB , how can you think it's just drumpf that would use those 2 words? There were no misspellings and no misuse of language, so I definitely disagree with your opinion. How could it be drumpf when there were no lies? In case you have this confusion often, if drumpf is saying something, or tweeting something, it's always a lie.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
4. An Analogy and an Irony
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 10:40 AM
Aug 2018

So, in late 1945, a Nazi is questioned by the conquering allied forces. He says he became a Nazi in the 1932 election of Adolf Hitler. Even though he didn't like everything Hitler said, he just couldn't bring himself to vote for Otto Wels because Otto was so boring.

I guess the German Nazi thought he was voting for the "lesser of two evils", but just miscalculated by a smidgen.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
12. It's an analogy.
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 12:25 PM
Aug 2018

I have no link, but I'm sure a lot of Germans thought of Otto Wels the same way a lot of Americans thought of Hillary.

That's the point

ffr

(22,671 posts)
19. Fixed.
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 01:37 PM
Aug 2018
I have no link, but I'm sure a lot of Germans thought of Otto Wels the same way a lot of Americans were taught to think negatively of Hillary, through constant false claims spread by right-wing talking points.


Some German history I'll have to Google then, because your hypothetical analogy would then be brass tax scary.

Thanks!
 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
20. Otto Wels was a very good man
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 01:40 PM
Aug 2018

But he was the chief negotiator to the Versailles Treaty, the treaty that ended WWI. He headed up the Christian Democratic Party, the party in power during the great world wide depression in the early 1930's.

The comparisons between Hitler and Wels were very similar to Trump and Clinton.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,873 posts)
14. I listen to Democracy Now! just about every day,
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 12:36 PM
Aug 2018

and I don't recall them ever suggesting that a Clinton Presidency would have been as bad or worse than a Trump Presidency. Like a lot of us, they weren't convinced that Clinton was the best possible candidate in 2016, but it certainly felt to me as though they supported her (to whatever extent they ever support a candidate) once she was the nominee.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,873 posts)
17. I am not going to look at every broadcast they did
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 01:14 PM
Aug 2018

to find those.

Democracy Now often goes off and looks at corners of things no one else is bothering to cover, and admittedly Amy Goodman tends to cover events in East Timor that pretty much no one outside of that place cares much about, but I find that I'm remarkably well informed about what's happening because I listen to that broadcast regularly. I also listen to some BBC news most days.

I started giving up on NPR when back in 1992 they, certainly in the form of Cokie Roberts, were completely confident that not only would President Bush win re-election most handily, but as far as they were concerned there was no way on god's green earth that Bill Clinton would win the Democratic nomination. For me it was the beginning of their slide to the dark side.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
18. You don't have to look at "every broadcast"
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 01:21 PM
Aug 2018

Just read the headlines in the link I posted and go back a bit in time from before the election.

They are NOT the Democratic Party's ally.
In fact, in many ways, they are the enemy.

They hated Hillary.

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