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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWould perjury be a pardonable offense?
I mean if RUMPY commits perjury can he self pardon?
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Would perjury be a pardonable offense? (Original Post)
bluestarone
Aug 2018
OP
Congress controls impeachment. Impeachment isn't affected by pardons (that was even...
PoliticAverse
Aug 2018
#9
No, the President can't pardon themself (despite what some people would tell you). n/t
PoliticAverse
Aug 2018
#6
Congress doesn't determine the validity of a pardon, the courts do. It would be 9-0 if it made it...
PoliticAverse
Aug 2018
#8
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,806 posts)1. Perjury can be a federal offense and therefore pardonable, but
most legal experts don't think a president can pardon himself.
bluestarone
(17,012 posts)2. TY! Could open a can of worms i feel!!
brooklynite
(94,680 posts)3. Ultimately, "legal experts" don't get to make the decision.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,806 posts)4. True; it hasn't been definitively decided.
But there is a very-well established rule, going back to English common law, that says a man shall not be a judge in his own case. That's where those scholars are coming from.
bluestarone
(17,012 posts)5. My question is
Would CONGRESS did sit idle if RUMPY did self-pardon? How would this play out?
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)9. Congress controls impeachment. Impeachment isn't affected by pardons (that was even...
specifically put into the Constitution).
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)6. No, the President can't pardon themself (despite what some people would tell you). n/t
bluestarone
(17,012 posts)7. I'd agree except for the CONGRESS we have today!!
I'm very concerned about this!
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)8. Congress doesn't determine the validity of a pardon, the courts do. It would be 9-0 if it made it...
to the Supreme Court.
bluestarone
(17,012 posts)10. Congress could impeach tho (which is what they should do)
If RUMPY self pardons? That is the way i figure it.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)11. Any Trump self-pardon would only make impeachment more-likely. n/t
bluestarone
(17,012 posts)12. EXACTLY!!
That's what i meant with post #5 (would THIS congress sit idle?) I would hope as you do that self-pardon would be the straw that broke the camels back!! and IMPEACH THIS ASSHOLE!!!!!! (But then we got Pence (YUCK)