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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 01:59 PM Jul 2018

Burn The Flag Jail & Loss Of Citizenship - Trump. On Facebook.

My wife is on Facebook. I am not. But saw an entry that Trump wants the government to take away citizenship if you burn a flag. So I guess you would be deported to who knows where after leaving jail if he had it his way. I am sure that the GOP and RW churches would enthusiastically support such a law.

You know every day the political situation gets weirder and more scary.

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Burn The Flag Jail & Loss Of Citizenship - Trump. On Facebook. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Jul 2018 OP
Flag burning? htuttle Jul 2018 #1
crimes against the state dembotoz Jul 2018 #2
Has the 1st amendment been cancelled ? n/t jaysunb Jul 2018 #3
I think Trump has decided that he's the only person who can use it. Arkansas Granny Jul 2018 #8
Sounds about right...nt 2naSalit Jul 2018 #14
Does Trump know that the Flag Code specifies burning as a respectful way of disposing of a flag? Girard442 Jul 2018 #4
Correct. If it is retroactive then there will be about 10 million Boy Scouts sent to prison. dameatball Jul 2018 #9
Yeah, I forgot. The Scouts do that. Girard442 Jul 2018 #11
Probably not just Boy Scouts. Maybe groups like VFW also perform that service. Just a guess. dameatball Jul 2018 #12
"know"? Of course not. He knows hardly anything. marybourg Jul 2018 #10
I thought flag burning was decided by the sc. it's legal. notdarkyet Jul 2018 #17
How about if you wear it? greymattermom Jul 2018 #5
Trump tweeted that in November 2016 and it was quickly dropped after it was ridiculed onenote Jul 2018 #6
Trump, that is what we will do to u Chickensoup Jul 2018 #7
If this is true, I am burning a flag a day on general principle (n/t) Moostache Jul 2018 #13
So an ax murderer can keep his citizenship but a flag burner nada Norbert Jul 2018 #15
3 more words....Trump is nuts!!! Stuart G Jul 2018 #16
In that case, tRump might swoon if he sees the toilet seat cover, Grammy23 Jul 2018 #18
I want to be deported to Mexico. notdarkyet Jul 2018 #19
The right has been pushing this issue for years. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2018 #20
I believe there were even a few Democrats on board with it. The SCOTUS ruled decades ago that jalan48 Jul 2018 #21
Remember They Are Stacking The Court With RW Nut Jobs. They Could Reverse It. TheMastersNemesis Jul 2018 #22
Or the Congress could vote to make it a crime. Wedge issues are effective. jalan48 Jul 2018 #23
DOH! co-sponsored by Senators Hillary Clinton, Barbara Boxer... progressoid Jul 2018 #25
. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2018 #29
He tweeted that in Nov 2016 oberliner Jul 2018 #24
I always figured Harker Jul 2018 #26
Well I guess a ton of Boy Scouts sdfernando Jul 2018 #27
US law says that sometimes a flag *should* be burned!! flyingfysh Jul 2018 #28

Girard442

(6,084 posts)
4. Does Trump know that the Flag Code specifies burning as a respectful way of disposing of a flag?
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 02:06 PM
Jul 2018

On edit:

Since burning is prescribed as a respectful means of disposal, does that mean that's no longer allowed? Then how do we dispose of old tattered flags? Also, will other ways of disrespecting the flag incur the same penalty, like flying it on your pickup truck's antenna in the rain or until it becomes tattered and ragged? Or flying it at the same height as the Confederate flag?

What is a flag, anyway? Is a flag made of paper a flag? Is burning a magazine with a picture of a flag on it a crime? Is burning an envelope with a flag postage stamp on it a crime?

This is what you get when you govern by bumper sticker.

onenote

(42,758 posts)
6. Trump tweeted that in November 2016 and it was quickly dropped after it was ridiculed
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 02:06 PM
Jul 2018

as completely contrary to the First Amendment (including the First Amendment as interpreted by Scalia).

There are far more pressing things to worry about than Trump's old nonsense tweets. There are new nonsense tweets.

Grammy23

(5,812 posts)
18. In that case, tRump might swoon if he sees the toilet seat cover,
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 02:42 PM
Jul 2018

And floor mats festooned with the flag, eagles and footballs for sale on Amazon. Pass the smelling salts. They also sell toilet paper featuring an elephant and one with a donkey in red, white and blue.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,335 posts)
20. The right has been pushing this issue for years.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 02:53 PM
Jul 2018

Bob Bennet (R-Utah) sponsored a bill in 2005

They tried to make it an act of terror or intimidation.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_Protection_Act_of_2005

Amends the federal criminal code to revise provisions regarding desecration of the flag to prohibit: (1) destroying or damaging a U.S. flag with the primary purpose and intent to incite or produce imminent violence or a breach of the peace; (2) intentionally threatening or intimidating any person, or group of persons, by burning a U.S. flag; or (3) stealing or knowingly converting the use of a U.S. flag belonging to the United States, or belonging to another person on U.S. lands, and intentionally destroying or damaging that flag.[1]

jalan48

(13,883 posts)
21. I believe there were even a few Democrats on board with it. The SCOTUS ruled decades ago that
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 02:57 PM
Jul 2018

flag burning is protected as free speech under our Constitution. I have a feeling this is going to become a big Republican issue in the upcoming elections.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
22. Remember They Are Stacking The Court With RW Nut Jobs. They Could Reverse It.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 03:13 PM
Jul 2018

The Constitution will not matter to them. It is about ideology and they will twist the Constitution to their liking.

progressoid

(49,998 posts)
25. DOH! co-sponsored by Senators Hillary Clinton, Barbara Boxer...
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 04:10 PM
Jul 2018

co-sponsored by Senator Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.). Later co-sponsors included Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), Mark Pryor (D-Ark.) and Thomas Carper (D-Del.).[1]



Harker

(14,034 posts)
26. I always figured
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 04:27 PM
Jul 2018

what I choose do with any flag I might own is my business, provided I'm not harming anyone with it, and I'll respectfully leave everyone else's alone.

flyingfysh

(1,990 posts)
28. US law says that sometimes a flag *should* be burned!!
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 04:59 PM
Jul 2018

So people who obey the law would lose citizenship???

I am referring to the US flag code, which says that when a flag is worn out, the preferred disposal method is by burning.

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