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Who do you think will end up in prison for Russia-gate (Original Post) malaise Jul 2018 OP
Manafort and Stone... sfwriter Jul 2018 #1
Manafort showed up today in a prison suit - how have the mighty fallen malaise Jul 2018 #4
I'd add Carter Page to that list, as well. GoCubsGo Jul 2018 #8
I hope those two fuckers end up in supermax! dhol82 Jul 2018 #10
Carter Page AND yonder Jul 2018 #14
Most likely, temporary311 Jul 2018 #2
Nobody. They're repukes. They'll walk, and live to commit more crimes & treason. Glorfindel Jul 2018 #3
No people are going to prison here malaise Jul 2018 #5
And that is exactly what CANNOT be allowed to happen. Volaris Jul 2018 #17
Just like Iran-Contra. (eom) StevieM Jul 2018 #21
Nobody, unless the New York legislature overturns their awful "double jeopardy" law. catbyte Jul 2018 #6
Already there is a Dutch lawyer in prison n/t malaise Jul 2018 #25
Manafort. Stone MFM008 Jul 2018 #7
Anyone who flagranty violated money laundering laws DFW Jul 2018 #9
Let's hope trump falls under that. dhol82 Jul 2018 #11
Other people would have done it for him DFW Jul 2018 #13
One hopes. dhol82 Jul 2018 #15
That we do. DFW Jul 2018 #16
I think the Con will crack under pressure malaise Jul 2018 #22
Let's hope the RNC and everyone they gave money to gets charged with a RICO indictment. Volaris Jul 2018 #18
Devoutly to be wished for! dhol82 Jul 2018 #20
Nobody. Codeine Jul 2018 #12
No one! Floyd R. Turbo Jul 2018 #19
Judging from Watergate, and I remember it well. It seems similar to me... Sancho Jul 2018 #23
+ 1,000 malaise Jul 2018 #26
Manafort, Page, Stone, Kushner, Flynn. LuckyCharms Jul 2018 #24
Flynn, Papadopoulos and Gates DeminPennswoods Jul 2018 #27

malaise

(269,157 posts)
4. Manafort showed up today in a prison suit - how have the mighty fallen
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 08:29 PM
Jul 2018

I hope the goons see what 's coming.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
17. And that is exactly what CANNOT be allowed to happen.
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 09:38 PM
Jul 2018

Elected Democrats have to be willing to PUNISH these fuckers this time (and possibly risk their careers doing it),
or this shit WILL happen AGAIN.

catbyte

(34,440 posts)
6. Nobody, unless the New York legislature overturns their awful "double jeopardy" law.
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 08:35 PM
Jul 2018

I think if Traitor Tot is not indicted, he'll pardon everybody. If he & family are indicted, whomever is the GOP Enabler-in-Chief---most likely Pence--will pardon all of them. I don't dare hope that Trump AND Pence will be impeached, the Democrats take the House in 2019, making Nancy Pelosi POTUS. That would be too much justice. The world is still too fucked up and corrupt for that to be allowed to happen.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
13. Other people would have done it for him
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 08:59 PM
Jul 2018

He's too stupid to know how it works, and if he learned, he put enough layers between those who did it for him, he will not be connected.

In the end, it won't help him, though. I think he owes Putin too much money to walk away from that one, and I think Putin's justice will be somewhat more harsh than ours.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
18. Let's hope the RNC and everyone they gave money to gets charged with a RICO indictment.
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 09:48 PM
Jul 2018

Can you imagine how much fun it would be if the entirety of the elected Republican party had to show up in court and defend themselves individually?

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
23. Judging from Watergate, and I remember it well. It seems similar to me...
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 05:47 AM
Jul 2018

except that tRump is much more of a criminal going back many years:

http://watergate.info/analysis/casualties-and-convictions

In the aftermath of Richard Nixon’s resignation, Watergate continued to claim victims.
The final toll included:

one presidential resignation
one vice-presidential resignation – although Agnew’s crimes were unrelated to Watergate
40 government officials indicted or jailed
H.R. Haldeman and John Erlichman (White House staff), resigned 30 April 1973, subsequently jailed
John Dean (White House legal counsel), sacked 30 April 1973, subsequently jailed
John Mitchell, Attorney-General and Chairman of the Committee to Re-elect the President (CREEP), jailed
Howard Hunt and G. Gordon Liddy (ex-White House staff), planned the Watergate break-in, both jailed
Charles Colson, special counsel to the President, jailed
James McCord (Security Director of CREEP), jailed


I suspect that a bunch of tRump's staff and likely family will go to jail or provide plea bargains. It could result in the dismantling of tRump's entire estate.

LuckyCharms

(17,455 posts)
24. Manafort, Page, Stone, Kushner, Flynn.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 06:08 AM
Jul 2018

Cohen may avoid prison.

Don Jr. will avoid prison unless nailed by NYS.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
27. Flynn, Papadopoulos and Gates
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 06:47 AM
Jul 2018

have already pleaded guilty and are likely to do at least some prison time depending on their level of cooperation. Flynn and Papadopolous' plea deal says anywhere from 0-6 months. Given that both men had their sentencing hearings postponed a few times, I'd guess their prison time will be on the low end, but not 0, of their plea agreement.

VanDerZwaan, the Dutch lawyer, just finished his 30 day jail stint, iirc.

I don't see how Manafort avoids jail. He couldn't even behave enough to stay out of jail before his trial.

I expect Stone, Parscale, Page, Don Jr, Kushner to be indicted when Mueller names the Americans involved.

I think Cohen will be indicted, but will have reached a plea deal in conjunction with the indictment ala Papadopolous. I'm surprised it's taken this long, but maybe the special master being inserted into the seized material review process has slowed things down.


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