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Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 01:20 PM Jul 2018

Republicans win elections because they don't talk about what they plan on doing until after ...

the election is over, they focus on scaring moderates away from the democratic candidates

Democrats focus on scare moderates too, but they focus on scaring moderates away from themselves.

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Republicans win elections because they don't talk about what they plan on doing until after ... (Original Post) Snake Plissken Jul 2018 OP
Not quite. Repugs win election by cheating and gerrymandering. brush Jul 2018 #1
Those are just a few of the things they do not discuss before elections Snake Plissken Jul 2018 #3
Right leftieNanner Jul 2018 #2
They win elections because; SamKnause Jul 2018 #4
+1 milestogo Jul 2018 #5
Those are all things they never talk about and just do after the election Snake Plissken Jul 2018 #6
You are so right, but this might not be the best example of a Democrat. brush Jul 2018 #7
That's not really my take. They talk about all kinds of things they plan to do. And then they do it. JCanete Jul 2018 #8
no, they win handmade34 Jul 2018 #9
Because they lie or don 't tell the entire truth MiniMe Jul 2018 #10

leftieNanner

(15,143 posts)
2. Right
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 01:26 PM
Jul 2018

I remember how astounded I was (silly me) when Mitch McConnell refused to answer policy questions during his last election in 2014. "We won't talk about that now. There's time for that after the election."

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
4. They win elections because;
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 01:28 PM
Jul 2018

They cheat

They lie

They suppress the vote

They gerrymander

The Supreme Court picks the president (2000)

Religious fanatics want abortion outlawed

Racists want to murder blacks legally (stand your ground)

They have their own state media outlets


I don't think they could win an honest election.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
6. Those are all things they never talk about and just do after the election
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 01:37 PM
Jul 2018

I'll give you a perfect example of what I am referring to


Gillibrand: 'We should get rid of ICE' if Dems flip House and Senate

http://thehill.com/latino/398375-gillibrand-we-should-get-rid-of-ice-once-we-flip-house-and-senate

What is the point of bringing topics like this up before an election?

brush

(53,833 posts)
7. You are so right, but this might not be the best example of a Democrat.
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 01:54 PM
Jul 2018

Gillebrand showed she's not the sharpest knife in the drawer with her head-long, unwise dive into the Al Franken framing.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
8. That's not really my take. They talk about all kinds of things they plan to do. And then they do it.
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 02:12 PM
Jul 2018

They aren't coy about talking about tax cuts for the rich, attempting to build a wall, etc. Sure, then they do a whole lot of other horrible shit, but I totally disagree with you.

We on the other hand fail by not telling the American people what we are actually going to fight for. Watering down our message to what we consider a range of reasonable expectations amounts to what sounds mealy-mouthed and non-committal. And it is ultimately ineffective, because we end up compromising all the time with republican led congresses because we're afraid of what we might get instead. We take that threat entirely away when we offer our middling proposals that we think Republicans can stomach and they reject it, because the worst case now is something they can stomach. That isn't our job, that's their job to come to us with a reasonable compromise so that we don't pass what they are afraid of.

Now where republicans really lie is when it comes to what is actually wrong and what will actually fix the nation. Democrats are usually right in their diagnosis but then we spend all our time explaining why our hands are tied and we can't or shouldn't do anything about the problem.

handmade34

(22,757 posts)
9. no, they win
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 02:38 PM
Jul 2018

because people don't vote or if they do they have no critical thinking skills when choosing who to vote for...

MiniMe

(21,718 posts)
10. Because they lie or don 't tell the entire truth
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 02:52 PM
Jul 2018

They campaigned on tax cuts. Most of those tax cuts went to the rich, and those cuts are permanent. Their meager tax cuts expire in a few years. And they didn't tell voters that the next step is to get rid of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid because the tax cuts are sending the deficits spiraling

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