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robbob

(3,538 posts)
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:15 PM Jul 2018

Why oh why can nobody on CNN see that tRump is owned by Putin

I don’t get it. Panel after panel of talking heads. Don Lemon: they don’t like tRump, the criticize him relentlessly, but the discussions always hit a dead end when it comes down to speculating WHY tRump acts this way. Just saw a panel with Frank Bruni, Don and Carl Bernstein and they keep dancing around the question of what is motivating tRump. He’s “normalizing” Russian relations to take heat of the Mueller investigation. He’s incompetent. He doesn’t understand. Etc, etc.

I don’t get it. Even the most abridged Cliff note version of tRumps business career shows a man on the verge of ruin going hat in hand to Russia and rising from the flames of defeat. That condo, bought with Russian tied bank money and sold to an oligarch at a huge profit? It is so obvious that, piss tapes or not, tRump is deeply in hock to the Russian mob.

Why can’t the media bring itself to speculate on the most obvious reason for tRumps obsequious behaviour? It’s maddening...

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Why oh why can nobody on CNN see that tRump is owned by Putin (Original Post) robbob Jul 2018 OP
I'm starting to hear that question - what is it, exactly, that Putin has on Trump? - over and over The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #1
You're right! robbob Jul 2018 #6
I don't watch TV, but from reading here and reading editorials and TPM and Slate, it frightens me NRaleighLiberal Jul 2018 #2
Will Hurd, a GOP(!) Congressman just wrote an op-ed to that effect. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #3
Link? robbob Jul 2018 #9
link blaze Jul 2018 #10
Well, I just read the entire article, robbob Jul 2018 #12
Seriously... renegade000 Jul 2018 #4
If I can come up with the conclusion that tRump is up to his pudgy neck Grammy23 Jul 2018 #5
Wouldn't want to upset their advertisers. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #7
CNN loves Trump. He's good for ratings. comradebillyboy Jul 2018 #8
so does most of the media NewJeffCT Jul 2018 #11

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,866 posts)
1. I'm starting to hear that question - what is it, exactly, that Putin has on Trump? - over and over
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:17 PM
Jul 2018

from panelists on MSNBC, and it's popping up quite explicitly in op-ed pages in print newspapers. Anderson Cooper has also asked the question. I don't see that it's being ignored.

robbob

(3,538 posts)
6. You're right!
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 12:24 AM
Jul 2018

After creating this thread I actually watched the rest of the segment I mentioned, and by the end Bruni was actually wondering “is this president compromised?”. So maybe the dam is starting to break. Still it seems obvious; any cursory review of tRumps checkered career points to a glaringly obvious Russian mob connection, and they are just now starting to use the rather mild term “compromised”? Oh well, it’s a start...

NRaleighLiberal

(60,022 posts)
2. I don't watch TV, but from reading here and reading editorials and TPM and Slate, it frightens me
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:19 PM
Jul 2018

that so many just can't "go there" - why? Too horrifying to imagine? Too far a stretch for them? Or (tin foil hat) is something bigger and nastier under the surface and we the people can't be trusted with the truth?

These are far more than trying times...they are mystifying in how totally fucked up they are.

robbob

(3,538 posts)
12. Well, I just read the entire article,
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 09:35 AM
Jul 2018

(Thanks for the link, Blaze), but I see NO mention of the Russians holding compromising information on tRump. Instead, Hurd uses the rather mild term “influences” and “manipulates” to describe tRumps weak stand on election interference, implying that it is tRumps inexperience or naivety that is driving this catastrophe.

tRump is a Russian asset, plain and simple. In addition to whatever compromising video material they have on him, he is probably deeply in dept to the “oligarchs” ie mob. Saying he is influenced or manipulated is pretty weak sauce.

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
4. Seriously...
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:30 PM
Jul 2018

I mean, there's nothing wrong with informed speculation so long as you label it as such. It's important to hammer these suspicious facts home.

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
5. If I can come up with the conclusion that tRump is up to his pudgy neck
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:50 PM
Jul 2018

In hock to the Ruskies, along with a large portion of the Republican Congress members, you gotta know these aces in the news biz have more than enough resources to figure it out. But they dance like a ballerina in Swan Lake avoiding the obvious. It is either way more sinister or complicated than any of us thought.....or they just need to fill their hourly spot for the network so they hash and rehash, nibbling around the edges without ever getting into a lively discussion of the Who, what, when , where and why of the matter.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
11. so does most of the media
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 09:14 AM
Jul 2018

they love following him and reporting on everything he does because the next thing Trump says or does can spark outrage/shock/disbelief and who knows where it will lead.

Hillary was smart, capable and extremely competent and somewhat boring as a candidate, so the media didn't have the same incentive to cover her and her speeches, statements and tweets back in 2016.

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