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I do not like this guy and wish cable would stop supporting him. And PS, I think he's wrong.
http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/396969-ignore-the-spin-still-no-evidence-of-trump-collusion
Ignore the spin still no evidence of Trump collusion
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Indeed, much of this effort may have been much too standard for some of us to admit. The continued shock and revulsion expressed by many leaders at the thought of such interference is a tad forced. The United States has intervened in foreign elections for decades, including leaking stolen documents. Not long ago, our hacking of our own allies, including German Chancellor Angela Merkel, was revealed. Many nations regularly try to influence elections and this is nothing new for the United States, either as the culprit or as the target of such efforts.
In other words, if there were a real hunt for election witches, we would find ourselves at the head of the line to the pillory.
Does that mean that the Mueller investigation is somehow invalid? Of course not. This remains an attack on our system, there is still work to be done, and we should all want the FBI to continue that work unimpeded.
With minutes of its release, the latest indictment was unrecognizable after being put through the centrifuge of the Washington spin machine. The fact is that the indictment largely confirmed what we knew. It shows an effort by the Russians to undermine Clinton and influence the election; it also shows no evidence of knowing collusion and, indeed, very limited evidence of unknowing collusion.
So, ignore the exclamations of O Goody Ruskies. We can be outraged by the Russian operation without being hypocrites as to our own history. Likewise, we can support the Mueller investigation without ignoring the fact that no credible evidence has thus far arisen against Trump on collusion.
In other words, if you want to find witches, start by not being chumps.
blogslut
(38,016 posts)...he wasn't so full of himself.
MariaCSR
(642 posts)Sit down and shut up, Turlet
JI7
(89,264 posts)Trump does.
wouldn't be surprised if he is actually on putin's payroll.
Mike Nelson
(9,966 posts)
poorly. There will be no enumerated "evidence" of collusion because that's not a crime. The crime is "Conspiracy against the United States" and we see evidence, now, even before the investigation is complete. There is evidence of "collusion" "cooperation" or whatever Turley would like to call it... I see he says "knowing collusion," which may indicate Turley is part of the other side's "spin machine."
OnDoutside
(19,970 posts)crime called collusion. Turkey is playing up a narrative. However as Mueller showed in his Friday indictments, there is a crime of Conspiracy to defraud the United States of America.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Why they plead guilty and what they lied about, in particular Flynn and Popadopolous.
EndGOPPropaganda
(1,117 posts)This is how the Trumpite owner of the Hill biases that n newspaper.
By choosing propagandists like Turley.
IGNORE THE HILL. Do not read it. Do not post it here.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)who once earned good reputations that are now abandoned to push disinformation and outright lies.
Turley was once a scholar. He knows that we can't know this yet and will presumably find out when/if the report of the Mueller investigation is made public.
VOX
(22,976 posts)The gang that enables and supports 45. To hell with all of them.
spanone
(135,873 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)On trying to hack Hillary's emails within a fcking HOURS TIME is actually pretty damn fcking SUSPICIOUS there, Johnny-Boy.
As is the Trump Tower meeting, undertaken to 'get Dirt on Hillary', and under the auspices of the 'Russia Governments support of Trump for POTUS' followed within like a week by Guccifer 2.0's DCLeaks popping up and releasing stolen documents (i.e. THAT VERY DIRT).
Boomerproud
(7,964 posts)I pay him no attention.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Cicada
(4,533 posts)There is no good explanation for Trump blocking Ukraine from buying military equipment needed to defend against Russia. Quid pro quo is a plausible explanation. It is not proof but it is credible evidence of collusion.
Wounded Bear
(58,706 posts)Lot of Trumpist bias in him.