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So there was interference but no one benefited from it? (Original Post) boston bean Jul 2018 OP
400-lb hackers trying to find their way around, meaning no harm dalton99a Jul 2018 #1
Setting out the elements of the crimes in the indictment The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #2
Not really what was said. The investigation is still going on. nolabear Jul 2018 #3
True. So the Russians didn't alter the machines..then who did? Wwcd Jul 2018 #4
Who said no one benefited? shanny Jul 2018 #5
I don't think that is what was said. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #6
Just-a good old boys, never meanin' no harm stevenleser Jul 2018 #7

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
2. Setting out the elements of the crimes in the indictment
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 12:58 PM
Jul 2018

doesn't require establishing or alleging who benefited. The crime charged in the indictment is the hack, and it's not necessary to allege the result in order to charge the crime. The indictment would also have to contain credible allegations that the people being indicted did the crime. The result may have occurred, but maybe someone else was responsible, and further indictments will be forthcoming.

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
3. Not really what was said. The investigation is still going on.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:00 PM
Jul 2018

He can’t say anything until there’s proof that can be presented. Though I admit the cherry picking will likely be galling. Hang in there.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
4. True. So the Russians didn't alter the machines..then who did?
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:16 PM
Jul 2018

It leaves open US groups, China, Saudi, ..
I'm going with Hacker groups right here in the USA.

There were similar questions of discrepancies in previous elections.
The machine hacking did indeed take place, if it wasn't the 12 Russians named today, then we start looking at groups in the US.
And there are certainly a few.
Diebold & the aging voting machines, for starters..

This DNC hack & voter data theft is one step that will eventually lead to Mercers, DeVos/Spectrum & eventually who affected the machine tallies in Key States.



 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
5. Who said no one benefited?
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:46 PM
Jul 2018

"...they hacked into Democratic email accounts during the 2016 U.S. presidential election and released stolen information in the months before Americans headed to the polls, the Justice Department said Friday." --Associated Press

One thing they didn't say, though, was a word about changing voting machine totals, despite what some are assuming.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
7. Just-a good old boys, never meanin' no harm
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 01:55 PM
Jul 2018


Sorry that’s just immediately what I thought of when I saw your OP title.

Sure, no harm meant and no benefit to anyone. Sure uh huh.
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