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riversedge

(70,329 posts)
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:08 AM Jul 2018

After Moscow Trip, Sen Ron Johnson Repug, WI Says Election Meddling Overblown

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After Moscow Trip, Ron Johnson Says Election Meddling Overblown


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Other GOP members of delegation to Russia have harsher rhetoric[/b

Posted Jul 9, 2018 2:29 PM


Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., downplayed the role of Russia in meddling in the 2016 election, a position at odds with fellow GOP senators and the intelligence committee. (Bill Clark/CQ Roll Call file photo)

One of the Republican senators back from a trip to Moscow is suggesting that Congress went too far in punishing Russia for meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

“I’ve been pretty upfront that the election interference — as serious as that was, and unacceptable — is not the greatest threat to our democracy,” Sen. Ron Johnson said in an interview with the Washington Examiner published over the weekend. “We’ve blown it way out of proportion.”

“We need to really honestly assess what actually happened, what effect did it have, and what effect are our sanctions actually having, positively and negatively,” the Republican from Wisconsin said.

Johnson won re-election in 2016, with President Donald Trump on the top of the ticket. He has said that the Senate may have gone too far with mandatory sanctions against a host of Russian entities, leaving Trump with too little negotiating room on other matters. He also said the sanctions did not appear to be working as intended.

Trump is scheduled to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin next week in Helsinki.

Other Republican senators on the trip returned to the United States with a much more strident tone, including Louisiana’s John Kennedy.

Kennedy said in a CNN interview Monday that the message for Russia was, “stop screwing with American elections.”

Sen. Jerry Moran of Kansas, another member of the all-GOP delegation, said their Russian counterparts pushed back whenever there were accusations made about the 2016 interference.

“The point of the visit was to indicate a willingness to begin dialogue. I think the interest in many of us, particularly as a Republican delegation — my view is that for Russians to hear that Republicans from the United States Senate believe that meddling occurred, that it needs to stop,” Moran told NPR. “And that’s a component criteria before any kind of relationship change can really occur that needs to come to an end.”

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According to Johnson, when the Russian delegation was pushed on issues like the public release of private emails of 2016 presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, they would respond with charges about U.S.-backed media entities like Voice of America.

Johnson’s remarks to the Examiner were highlighted by Russian state media.

The Russian news agency TASS reported on Johnson’s comments, as did Sputnik International.


Senate Appropriations Chairman Richard C. Shelby of Alabama led the trip, which took place during the Independence Day recess period. The Shelby group met with a number of senior Russian officials, including Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

“The United States does not want, nor does it need, to resume a Cold War posture with Russia, and our delegation trip was a small step towards trying to ensure that does not happen. We will always be competitors, but we do not have to be adversaries,” Shelby said in a statement. “Russia can achieve a better relationship with the U.S., but it has to be earned, one step at a time.”

On Monday, Kennedy called Lavrov, “a bully.”

“He impressed me as the sort of guy who started out in the world as a smartass and worked his way up,” said Kennedy.

While the delegation of U.S. lawmakers was overseas, the Senate Intelligence Committee issued an update on its findings so far in the ongoing investigation of Russian interference. The committee, on a bipartisan basis, backed up the findings of the intelligence community that Russia was meddling and did favor Trump over Clinton.

Johnson elaborated on his position in a Monday interview with WOSH-AM radio, in which he said there were more serious threats.

“We’ve had briefings on this — it’s very difficult to really meddle in our elections. It just is. These are locally run, it’s almost impossible to change the vote tally. My concern would be violating the voter files, but we have those issues anyway and there are plenty of controls on that,” he said. “You know from a standpoint of using social media we spent a couple of billion dollars on the last election, they maybe spent a couple hundred thousand.”

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After Moscow Trip, Sen Ron Johnson Repug, WI Says Election Meddling Overblown (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2018 OP
The Russians have MontanaMama Jul 2018 #1
Sounds like he caught a case of treason. Kablooie Jul 2018 #2
So he's saying what the Russians are saying, typical uponit7771 Jul 2018 #3
Traitors Gonna Treason TheRealNorth Jul 2018 #4
well ronnie boy, Mr. Mueller might disagree with you. spanone Jul 2018 #5
Trump took a trip to Moscow in 1987 and when he came back... Blue_Tires Jul 2018 #6
If one looked at Johnson reelection numbers there is some dubious activty kimbutgar Jul 2018 #7
That was my comment as well Bettie Jul 2018 #10
Citation needed mythology Jul 2018 #19
The reason Walker dropped out of the Pres. Primary TheRealNorth Jul 2018 #8
Thanks Wisconsin, may kacekwl Jul 2018 #9
The Russians are good. First they used non-existent sonic noise on sinkingfeeling Jul 2018 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author TheRealNorth Jul 2018 #12
No, I said No such thing. I think you should delete calling me a troll. sinkingfeeling Jul 2018 #14
Sometimes sarcasm can be misinterpreted TheRealNorth Jul 2018 #17
Thank you. sinkingfeeling Jul 2018 #18
Another Putin boot licker. Fucking traitor. kairos12 Jul 2018 #13
RoJo's a dumb as dirt podunk. Greybnk48 Jul 2018 #15
Yeah, Ron Johnson was also . . . peggysue2 Jul 2018 #16
Johnson was reelected due to Russian interference dbackjon Jul 2018 #20

MontanaMama

(23,344 posts)
1. The Russians have
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:12 AM
Jul 2018

kompromat on this guy and the others that spent Independence Day in Moscow OR they’re getting paid to carry this water. Traitors...ALL of them.

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
4. Traitors Gonna Treason
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:24 AM
Jul 2018

I would not be surprised at this point if we found out Foxconn was laundering Russian money

kimbutgar

(21,215 posts)
7. If one looked at Johnson reelection numbers there is some dubious activty
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:51 AM
Jul 2018

Counties that show no votes for Feingold but voted for Hillary. His win is highly suspious. He even got more votes than Twitler.

Bettie

(16,130 posts)
10. That was my comment as well
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 12:23 PM
Jul 2018

he thinks it was "overblown" because he owes his seat to that meddling. He probably went with them to so some serious butt kissing in gratitude.

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
8. The reason Walker dropped out of the Pres. Primary
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 12:21 PM
Jul 2018

Has always been suspicious to me. I seriously wonder what the Russians have over the WI GOP.

sinkingfeeling

(51,478 posts)
11. The Russians are good. First they used non-existent sonic noise on
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 01:15 PM
Jul 2018

diplomats in Cuba and then poisoned people in the UK. And now they can melt brains by using magical lights that only Government of Putin Senators can see.

Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #11)

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
17. Sometimes sarcasm can be misinterpreted
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 07:17 PM
Jul 2018

When you said "And now they can melt brains by using magical lights that only Government of Putin Senators can see.", it sounded like to me you were insinuating that the concerns expressed by the Democrats were all tinfoil-hat conspiracy theories. That's the way I interpreted your comment.

Greybnk48

(10,177 posts)
15. RoJo's a dumb as dirt podunk.
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 03:11 PM
Jul 2018

I'm sure he's easily manipulated and tricked.

And, for the record, he won his election in Wisconsin the same way Trump did, thanks to their comrades in Russia.

peggysue2

(10,843 posts)
16. Yeah, Ron Johnson was also . . .
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 03:20 PM
Jul 2018

promoting the FBI's 'Secret Society" hoax back in February.

As far as 'meddling?' Hate that word! It becomes a whole lot easier to twist an election when you have party members willing to open the back door. For the right price, of course.

Johnson should be taken as seriously as his conspiracy theories. They both deserve a shredder.

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