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babylonsister

(171,092 posts)
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:10 PM Jul 2018

How The Mueller Probe Could Derail Kavanaugh's Confirmation

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/07/10/how-the-mueller-probe-could-derail-kavanaughs-confirmation.html

Posted on Tue, Jul 10th, 2018 by Leo Vidal
How The Mueller Probe Could Derail Kavanaugh’s Confirmation

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There are two reasons the existence of Mueller’s investigation into Donald Trump may force the Senate to put Kavanaugh’s nomination hearings on hold:

The belief that a president under criminal investigation should not be allowed to appoint someone to the Supreme Court, and
Kavanaugh’s former writings that express his views that a sitting president cannot be charged with crimes.


Ever since Anthony Kennedy announced his retirement from the U.S. Supreme Court, Sen. Cory Booker has said that there should be no vote on any Trump Supreme Court nominee until after the criminal investigation into Donald Trump ends. As Booker pointed out last month:

“If a president is the subject of a criminal investigation, as Donald Trump is, they can’t be expected to make a fair and reasonable nomination to the Supreme Court. Trump is compromised by the fact that issues that could arise associated with the investigation would be resolved by the Supreme Court.”


On June 29, Booker told Rachel Maddow that “constitutional questions about Trump being indicted would be fair game if Senate Republicans hold Supreme Court nominee confirmation hearings.”

And last night, after Trump announced Kavanaugh as his pick for the Supreme Court, Booker was very outspoken about the key issues that he sees coming out during Kavanaugh’s confirmation process, and why he should not be confirmed.

“I’ve been saying emphatically before this and now with even stronger voice that we as the United States Senate, forget partisanship or what have you, to avoid a constitutional crisis, we cannot let this confirmation process go forward. Especially now that we have someone who has clearly said that they have a strong opinion should any of those issues come before the Supreme Court.”


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In January, Senator Booker and California Senator Kamala Harris were both appointed to the Senate Judiciary Committee where Kavanaugh has to go for confirmation. With those two outspoken progressive Democrats on the panel, there is no chance that any questions about Donald Trump’s potential indictments — or about Brett Kavanaugh’s view on those indictments — will be left unasked.
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How The Mueller Probe Could Derail Kavanaugh's Confirmation (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2018 OP
I've got a feeling that republican misleader Dirty Donny* really mucked up with this nomination Achilleaze Jul 2018 #1
Interesting wryter2000 Jul 2018 #9
Sticky (R) Achilleaze Jul 2018 #14
Velcro. Flypaper. Superglue. Amaryllis Jul 2018 #34
And the pressure continues to grow for Mueller. panader0 Jul 2018 #2
Nope. My sense of 'Rugged Robert' (thanks, TheFerret) Volaris Jul 2018 #22
I think you mean whathehell Jul 2018 #29
If it's ease we're after, then just grab the blubber Pluvious Jul 2018 #36
I like the idea whathehell Jul 2018 #38
Well majority of the world and the USA thinks that Iliyah Jul 2018 #3
we need to hurry and dig up some dirt on this guy... samnsara Jul 2018 #4
You actually think finding dirt is going to matter to republicans? standingtall Jul 2018 #8
The Base thinks he's a liburl? Volaris Jul 2018 #26
If we did find dirt Danascot Jul 2018 #33
Dick Durbin's Got It ChoppinBroccoli Jul 2018 #37
Those questions should and will be asked. And with the evasiveness of a snake.. CincyDem Jul 2018 #5
He also said DownriverDem Jul 2018 #16
Mueller better do something quick inwiththenew Jul 2018 #6
There is nothing Mueller can do to derail Kavanaugh's confirmation standingtall Jul 2018 #7
What if he sent out a bunch of high profile indictments? The thought of that is great but then the Maraya1969 Jul 2018 #10
Exactly DownriverDem Jul 2018 #17
well--- azureblue Jul 2018 #25
Am I understanding this right? wryter2000 Jul 2018 #11
Your continued understanding that there's hope that R's will not back Trump is not "right." ancianita Jul 2018 #12
Roberts DownriverDem Jul 2018 #18
We the people need to be very outspoken on this! Dustlawyer Jul 2018 #13
It's about votes and power DownriverDem Jul 2018 #19
True, but they react if they believe it will have a negative effect on their re-election chances. Dustlawyer Jul 2018 #23
nixon appointed ford. ford pardoned nixon. Just like that. cutroot Jul 2018 #15
But Ford DownriverDem Jul 2018 #20
So you are defending his decision? cutroot Jul 2018 #32
The Hypocrite McTurtle Will Come Out of His Shell Ccarmona Jul 2018 #21
Hypocrisy IS that turtles shell. Volaris Jul 2018 #27
Republicans will join to ignore any valid oppositional questions. Kablooie Jul 2018 #24
Two big presumptions in this article. LudwigPastorius Jul 2018 #28
Kavanaugh is a "target rich environment" DeminPennswoods Jul 2018 #30
I'm really starting to buy into the theory there was a deal made for Kennedy to step down. Vinca Jul 2018 #31
Senator Joe Manchin will vote with the GOP Crime Family on this. sellitman Jul 2018 #35

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. I've got a feeling that republican misleader Dirty Donny* really mucked up with this nomination
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:13 PM
Jul 2018

...and that he is leading his submissive republican gang of grifters deep deep deep into the moral cesspool that is Latter Day KGOP republicanism.

This is going to get sticky, folks, very sticky.

* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
22. Nope. My sense of 'Rugged Robert' (thanks, TheFerret)
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:33 PM
Jul 2018

Is that he's gonna keep the whole thing in his pants until it's time to 'grab Em by the pussy', as it were.

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
29. I think you mean
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 03:12 PM
Jul 2018

"grab 'em by the dick".-- It's not only gender appropriate, it's actually a lot easier to "grab".

whathehell

(29,094 posts)
38. I like the idea
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:48 AM
Jul 2018

of grabbing his dick better... Maybe put a little squeeze on his balls while we're at it..

standingtall

(2,787 posts)
8. You actually think finding dirt is going to matter to republicans?
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:36 PM
Jul 2018

They rally around pedophiles. So what kind of dirt could there possibly be that could get a republican Senator to change their vote?

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
26. The Base thinks he's a liburl?
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:51 PM
Jul 2018

That's about the only thing I can think of that might scare them..As long as The Cult approves, they think they're gravy.

Danascot

(4,694 posts)
33. If we did find dirt
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 04:07 PM
Jul 2018

Booker and Harris and others might be able to ask questions that could be proven to be untruths and used as a basis for a future impeachment. Like what Franken did with Sessions. Too bad we no longer have Franken to ask the hard questions.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
37. Dick Durbin's Got It
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:45 AM
Jul 2018

Durbin has proof that Kavanaugh lied in his Senate Confirmation hearing years ago. He posted it on Twitter today along with the documents that prove it. Says he's repeatedly asked Kavanaugh to explain the discrepancy between the documentary proof and his testimony, but has never received an answer.

The only thing I'm worried about is if Durbin trotted this out too soon. We want this to go right down to the end and THEN hit them with the one piece of evidence that disqualifies him. By bringing this out now, Dumbass might have enough time to withdraw Kavanaugh and nominate someone else in time to make it under the deadline. We want this confirmation to drag out so that he won't have time to nominate anyone else.

CincyDem

(6,386 posts)
5. Those questions should and will be asked. And with the evasiveness of a snake..
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:22 PM
Jul 2018


...Kavanaugh will smile and explain that he can't possibly comment on hypotheticals that may or may not come before the court.



The good news is that Trump doesn't have to convince Kavanaugh to protect him from prosecution. That's a given and, from what we now know about Kennedy - he was likely a given too. Trump now has to support Roberts who is the ideologically middle justice. For my money, knowing that I had kennedy in my pocket, I'm not so sure I would have been so quick to push him out.

That assumes, however, that someone doesn't have a tape of Roberts with a donkey. Wonder if he's ever been to Russia ?

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
6. Mueller better do something quick
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:23 PM
Jul 2018

Because it becomes significantly more difficult to remove him once he's confirmed and that will likely happen in the next 2-3 months.

standingtall

(2,787 posts)
7. There is nothing Mueller can do to derail Kavanaugh's confirmation
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:33 PM
Jul 2018

every scenario we could think of would have to involve republicans doing what is right for the country. Republicans only care about hoarding power. The only possible way we are going to derail this nomination is if all Democrats stick together in opposition putting pressure on pro-choice republicans.

Maraya1969

(22,497 posts)
10. What if he sent out a bunch of high profile indictments? The thought of that is great but then the
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:42 PM
Jul 2018

thought that Trump would just pardon them all ruins the whole thing

DownriverDem

(6,231 posts)
17. Exactly
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:20 PM
Jul 2018

Folks can talk about the Dems fighting it all they want, but the repubs have the power and the votes. With every disgusting thing that happens since trump got elected, I just want to thank the left leaners who didn't think HRC was progressive enough. What fools.

azureblue

(2,151 posts)
25. well---
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:43 PM
Jul 2018

K is a friend of Don's and almost all of Don's friends took money or favors from the Russians. I think it's time see how much money K took from the Russians. Not if. How much.

wryter2000

(46,082 posts)
11. Am I understanding this right?
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 12:43 PM
Jul 2018

Does the OP suggest that Rs will put off confirmation because of all the incriminating questions about Trump that would come up during the hearings?

I'm pinning my meager hopes on one R doing the right thing. We'll still end up with someone horrible, but maybe not someone who would give Trump a get out of jail free card.

My other meager hope is on Roberts doing the right thing if a case comes before him.

ancianita

(36,137 posts)
12. Your continued understanding that there's hope that R's will not back Trump is not "right."
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 01:30 PM
Jul 2018

Hope is futile. When it comes to Putin's pawns, Reality rules.

Make calls to senators to vote Kavanaugh down, and then vote in November.

You'll feel better for that.

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
13. We the people need to be very outspoken on this!
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 01:48 PM
Jul 2018

We need to show to both Party’s this would not be looked upon favorably if the nomination goes through confirmation.

Not that it will do any good, but I am sending letters to my Senators Cruz and Cornyn and my Tea-publican Congressman Randy Weber!

Marches anyone?

DownriverDem

(6,231 posts)
19. It's about votes and power
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:24 PM
Jul 2018

The Dems do not have the power or the votes. What exactly is it you want them to do? The repubs have the power and the votes. They can do what they want.

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
23. True, but they react if they believe it will have a negative effect on their re-election chances.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:38 PM
Jul 2018

Absent a lawsuit that stops the confirmation (unlikely) this will occur before the mid-terms. While it will take a monumental effort and lots of media, it can help Democrats whether it is successful or not. Some Independants will be turned off of Trump/Republicans stacking the deck to stay out of trouble.

DownriverDem

(6,231 posts)
20. But Ford
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:25 PM
Jul 2018

pardoned nixon because he thought it would be best for the country not to have to go over Watergate all over again. Don't forget it cost Ford the presidency because of the pardon.

cutroot

(876 posts)
32. So you are defending his decision?
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 03:49 PM
Jul 2018

How would you you know that a deal was not made?. It only seemed to benefit the republicans. They all seem to scream for mercy when it suits them. I am of the belief that justice was not served and we are all suffering now because of it. Has it occurred to you that ford did not get elected, because he was an idiot? We should have gone over all of the offenses of the republicans then with a fine tooth comb and cleaned the house of the infection that they still are.

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
24. Republicans will join to ignore any valid oppositional questions.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 02:41 PM
Jul 2018

Yes there are serious issues at stake.

But, as always, those issues could affect Republican power so they will be studiously ignored by the ruling party.

LudwigPastorius

(9,174 posts)
28. Two big presumptions in this article.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 03:10 PM
Jul 2018

...that Mueller will issue indictments against Trump before Sept./Oct. (when Kavanaugh's confirmation hearing begins).

And, that the GOP Senate would bow to any kind of pressure from Democrats and some of the media and call off the hearings.

On the contrary, Congressional Republicans have shown time after time that they will defend Trump. You better believe they will when a Supreme Court seat is in the balance.

This reads as another of those "wishful thinking" pieces.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
30. Kavanaugh is a "target rich environment"
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 03:14 PM
Jul 2018

as it were for Dems. I'm sure there are still senators and staff around from the Ken Starr investigation days.

Vinca

(50,304 posts)
31. I'm really starting to buy into the theory there was a deal made for Kennedy to step down.
Tue Jul 10, 2018, 03:16 PM
Jul 2018

Do you suppose Kennedy's son the banker might be involved in the laundry business and will need a pardon after the Mueller investigation?

sellitman

(11,607 posts)
35. Senator Joe Manchin will vote with the GOP Crime Family on this.
Wed Jul 11, 2018, 11:33 AM
Jul 2018

I don't see anything stopping this abortion.

Talk me down.

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