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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe ‘Missing Evidence’ In Romney’s Tax Records
Joe Conason
Harry Reid has provoked outrage among liberals as well as conservatives, who seem to believe he has violated propriety by repeating gossip about Mitt Romneys taxes....Evidently the chief complaint against Reid aside from aggressiveness unbecoming a Democrat is that he cited an extremely credible source who he has so far declined to name...Despite all this righteous tut-tutting among the great and the good, in newspapers and magazines as well as on television, Reids critics simply have no way of knowing whether he is telling the truth or not. From the beginning, Reid himself admitted forthrightly that he has no way of being absolutely certain whether what he was told is factual or not, although he believes the person who said it was being truthful.
Many of Reids critics work for news outlets that rely on unnamed sources every day, of course, publishing assertions that range from the mundane to the outlandish....Indeed, several of the news outlets now barking at Reid have suffered their own episodes of scandalous embarrassment due to the exposure of invented sources and quotes (see Jayson Blair, Stephen Glass, etc. etc. etc.) . Yet they nevertheless continue to publish quotes from such unnamed individuals. After all, where else would Reid have learned that this is acceptable conduct?
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There is a legal doctrine that applies to Romneys current behavior, as Indiana attorney John Sullivan points out and it doesnt place the burden of proof on Reid:
The missing evidence is in Romneys grasp, yet he insists that he will never produce it. Does anyone need instruction from a judge to make the correct inference?
http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-missing-evidence-in-romneys-tax-records/
Mitt is trapped.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021073742
[font color="black" size="12" face="arial"]What is Mitt hiding?[/font]
malaise
(268,998 posts)Fugg em all
Laurian
(2,593 posts)Yep, fuck 'em......
Their journalistic ethics have been gone for a long time..
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)This is the same media owned by "the birthers" or "the racists" or "the corporatists", or "the GOP" as they used to be called.
bobburgster
(1,740 posts)you have to wonder why the media would get worked up about the use of unnamed sources. Republicans, well that's to be expected.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"you have to wonder.....you have to wonder why the media would get worked up about the use of unnamed sources."
...bizarre that they're pretending this is about Reid, not Romney's refusal to release his tax returns.
vkkv
(3,384 posts)Time for a massive citizens arrest of Romney for tax evasion.
MissMarple
(9,656 posts)The visual image in my head is breathtaking.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)appearing as his true self from the planet Kolob. What's hidden in his tax returns? They're a cookbook!
SunSeeker
(51,557 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)and they'll show all kinds of dodges from prosecution with the UBS, donations to groups like Planned Parenthood (back when he was trying to impress moderates in Mass), and how much money he really has in domestic accounts- leaving people to speculate he's still hiding offshore to avoid paying taxes.
it'll all come out...after he's been nominated
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)That's what Romney's advisors are banking on, that they can degrade the source... without releasing the returns.
Mitt has a habit of this. From the Gov. emails/hard drives, that he said were taken and erased so that no one could use them against him politically. And yet, people support that guy? And the olympics records? gone to a sealed location at a Unversity, DONATED so no one could use it against him politically.
I think the most disturbing thing about this, beyond the taxes, is that we're seeing the coverup of a person that could be the most ruthless, most secretive and deceptive, candide in history. I know that everyone who runs, wants to have that job.. but Romney seems to have spent his entire adult life ORCHESTRATING all of this. From his early days of deleting information, lying, and absolutely egregious attacks on anyone who runs against him.
Bush was a nincompoop. He destroyed so much, but he was not as ruthless and power-hungry as Romney. Perhaps only Nixon could match or even get close to Romney's lack of morals and authenticity. But I still think Romney is worse. A candidate that is changing by the minute, who outwardly lies as easily as breathing, who devastates anyone who runs against him, and who has burned bridges and files in his wake, should never never be President. I know that people poo poo the whole White Horse thing (unless it's Glenn Beck,) but sometimes.. I wonder if this is part of something larger.
ETA: It also struck me the other day that we never seen photos of Romney with friends. No one seems to really like that guy at all. Even his surrogates that want either a VP slot, or some slot in his cabinet, or money from military contracts, NEVER say anything GOOD about him...
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts).... so what's the problem?
McCain's people could put this to rest!!!!
Poiuyt
(18,123 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)He knows them for what they are.
kentuck
(111,095 posts)"There is a legal doctrine that applies to Romneys current behavior, as Indiana attorney John Sullivan points out and it doesnt place the burden of proof on Reid:
At law, if a person in control of evidence refuses to produce the evidence, then the jury is instructed that there is a presumption that the evidence would be against the party failing to produce. It is called the Missing Evidence instruction.
The missing evidence is in Romneys grasp, yet he insists that he will never produce it. Does anyone need instruction from a judge to make the correct inference?"
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Good job ProSense!
kentuck
(111,095 posts)<snip>
John Sullivan writes in a guest column for Informed Comment:
A Cabinet nominee or a Supreme Court nominee produces decades of tax returns to the Senate for confirmation. Romney should meet that criteria.
The deduction for the horse included over $2,000 in medical expenses. Medical expenses are not deductible for taxpayers unless they exceed 7.5% of adjusted gross income. In Romneys world, horses are more valuable than people.
Obviously, Romney will not produce his tax returns because he knows whats in them is more damaging that the static he will take for not releasing them. At law, if a person is control of evidence refuses to produce the evidence, then the jury is instructed that there is a presumption that the evidence would be against the party failing to produce. It is called the Missing Evidence instruction.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)klook
(12,155 posts)who refuses to produce the easily obtainable evidence that would exonerate him. Therefore the only reasonable vote is "Guilty."
Bingo!
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)If a person takes the fifth amendment, the jury should be instructed to assume guilt.
If the defendent does not testify in the trial, the jury should be instructed to assume guilt.
I would not piss on Mitt Romney if his hair was on fire, would not vote for him if he was running against Adolph Hitler, but are we going to discard our constitution in its entirety?