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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 03:58 PM Jul 2018

I am watching a really scary TV series about a modern Russian occupation.

It's called "Occupied" and it's on Netflix. Max Boot just mentioned it in his op-ed, "Trump wants to Finlandize the United States," https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/trump-is-pushing-the-atlantic-alliance-to-the-breaking-point/2018/06/30/c054f0dc-7c8e-11e8-80be-6d32e182a3bc_story.html?utm_term=.4bae6bc0a419. He says,

"The Post reports that Trump has ordered the Pentagon to study the removal of U.S. troops from Germany — a country that Trump views as an enemy because it sells cars that Americans love to buy. The U.S. troop presence in Germany has signaled since 1945 our commitment to protecting Europe from Russia. A pullout now would open the door to Finlandization. If you want to see what that could look like, watch the Norwegian TV series “Occupied.”

Here's another review:
Teasing out “the scary bits” of such a frightening scenario is what makes Occupied one of the most rivetingly realistic TV shows about international politics in recent memory. Aside from its opening plot device, there’s little about the show that’s unbelievable. The best aspects aren’t the occasional explosions and shoot-outs, but the human drama. Little by little, viewers come to see how a democratic society becomes morally corroded by the everyday compromises regular people are forced to make.
https://www.politico.eu/article/occupied-norwegian-tv-series-thats-enraged-the-kremlin-norway-russia-occupation/
So I started watching it; it's well-done and it's scaring me - not that Russia could occupy the US in exactly the same way (although it could take over the Baltic countries or others, which is what worries Max Boot - and part of the story is that the US has withdrawn from NATO), but the moral corrosion part hits home. Have a look.
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I am watching a really scary TV series about a modern Russian occupation. (Original Post) The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 OP
Thank you for that. I'm watching The Americans on Amazon Ilsa Jul 2018 #1
Big "Americans" fan here. TrishaJ Jul 2018 #10
ABC's 1987 mini-series "Amerika" is more prescient than ever. roamer65 Jul 2018 #2
IMO...ABC should replay the series on national television. roamer65 Jul 2018 #6
I cried during the scene when Kris Kristofferson kept repeating... roamer65 Jul 2018 #11
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2018 #13
The parallels to that miniseries are uncanny! Anon-C Jul 2018 #8
I agree...they are downright scary. roamer65 Jul 2018 #12
I just finished watching season 2 of "Occupied" madaboutharry Jul 2018 #3
Oh, no, we have to wait for another whole season to find out how it ends? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #4
But think how good it will be to get another season! madaboutharry Jul 2018 #7
Will there be a season 3? Habibi Jul 2018 #18
Here madaboutharry Jul 2018 #19
Thank you! nt Habibi Jul 2018 #20
I.just binge watched "The man in the High Tower" world wide wally Jul 2018 #5
"Occupied" is well worth watching. Though from a different perspective, "Babylon Berlin" also suffragette Jul 2018 #9
The Pig is trying to make it easier for Putin to reconstitute the territory of the USSR... Thomas Hurt Jul 2018 #14
K&R, "The US wont help, that's the reason they withdrew from NATO !!!" Watching first episode... uponit7771 Jul 2018 #15
It's a good series peggysue2 Jul 2018 #16
A good line from "Occupied" - The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #17
Just got through with the first two episodes, no one here but MAGA Nationalist would allow what is uponit7771 Jul 2018 #21
Question to male PM of Norway: "... how long will you be taking maternity leave" Cause healthcare uponit7771 Jul 2018 #22
Parental leave in Norway: The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #23
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2018 #24

TrishaJ

(798 posts)
10. Big "Americans" fan here.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:45 PM
Jul 2018

(also a Falcons fan) .... My perspective on this series radically changed after the 2016 election. Kind of eerie, so to speak.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
2. ABC's 1987 mini-series "Amerika" is more prescient than ever.
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:09 PM
Jul 2018

I watched it on you tube the other nite when I saw the treason weasel senators were in Moscow.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
11. I cried during the scene when Kris Kristofferson kept repeating...
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:49 PM
Jul 2018

the pledge of allegiance. Then he said “America” over and over again.

madaboutharry

(40,224 posts)
3. I just finished watching season 2 of "Occupied"
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:14 PM
Jul 2018

last night. They leave you with a cliffhanger.

It is excellent. I am glad to have learned they are filming season 3.

madaboutharry

(40,224 posts)
7. But think how good it will be to get another season!
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:26 PM
Jul 2018

I didn’t want it to end, so I’m happy for another season.

Habibi

(3,598 posts)
18. Will there be a season 3?
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 07:42 PM
Jul 2018

I got hooked on Occupied as well and looked for info about a 3rd season a couple of weeks ago. Didn't come up with anything.

world wide wally

(21,755 posts)
5. I.just binge watched "The man in the High Tower"
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:18 PM
Jul 2018

If I had watched it a year or two ago,, i.woild have found it totally unrealistic at how compliant Americans were to their Nazi and Japanese ooccupiers. Now not so.much.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
9. "Occupied" is well worth watching. Though from a different perspective, "Babylon Berlin" also
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 04:35 PM
Jul 2018

hits on some troubling similarities to our time and is very well vonceived and done.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
14. The Pig is trying to make it easier for Putin to reconstitute the territory of the USSR...
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 05:37 PM
Jul 2018

so Putin can make a move on the baltic states.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
15. K&R, "The US wont help, that's the reason they withdrew from NATO !!!" Watching first episode...
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 06:07 PM
Jul 2018

... its riveting.

peggysue2

(10,842 posts)
16. It's a good series
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 06:16 PM
Jul 2018

I was glad Netflix brought it back for another season. Chilling, too, when you consider what's going on right now--how the 'free' world might fare after the United States is kicked and/or has kicked itself to the sidelines.

Not pretty!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
17. A good line from "Occupied" -
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 06:33 PM
Jul 2018

"Protest is speaking out against something. Resistance is stopping it from happening."

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
21. Just got through with the first two episodes, no one here but MAGA Nationalist would allow what is
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 08:21 PM
Jul 2018

... happening in the series (which is VERY binge worthy, carve out some hours).

The PM in the series is loved while America's president is loathed.

If the Russians wanted to do such in the US it would've been safer to do it under Obama.

The Russians want to drag America down like the USSR in the 90s which I think the older Russians in the secret services still blame America at the least for the economic turmoil.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
22. Question to male PM of Norway: "... how long will you be taking maternity leave" Cause healthcare
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 08:22 PM
Jul 2018

... everywhere else is important ...sigh

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
23. Parental leave in Norway:
Fri Jul 6, 2018, 08:24 PM
Jul 2018

46 weeks of parental leave at 100 per cent of pay, or 56 weeks at 80 per cent of pay. Up to 14 weeks of this leave can be taken by the father. And after that you can send your child to a partially-subsidized barnehage (kindergarten) until the child is 6, when school is compulsory (and free). College tuition is also free.

Damn socialists.

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