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A timely message to frustrated white guys (Original Post) nichomachus Aug 2012 OP
Well done. warrior1 Aug 2012 #1
Love it! mindfulNJ Aug 2012 #2
I love your friend Control-Z Aug 2012 #3
Seeing him in this vid helps me a lot, you just don't know... uponit7771 Aug 2012 #4
Boy, do I have ammunition he can use for his next video. Baitball Blogger Aug 2012 #5
Posted to for later viewing. 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #6
give your friend handmade34 Aug 2012 #7
Hey Bill! tkmorris Aug 2012 #8
definite k and r niyad Aug 2012 #9
That was really good. SalviaBlue Aug 2012 #10
I don't know whether to laugh or shake his hand... Historic NY Aug 2012 #11
That was great! Chorophyll Aug 2012 #12
I'd like both Maynar Aug 2012 #13
Love it Kalidurga Aug 2012 #14
If you are a white guy in yor 40s, and you are not as successful as you think JoePhilly Aug 2012 #15
My sediments exactly ... bayareaboy Aug 2012 #16
Excellent. Thanks for posting. This old white guy agrees.... Scuba Aug 2012 #17
This middle age White Guy also agrees. ArnoldLayne Aug 2012 #18
Love him! K&R n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2012 #19
Good very good Vietnameravet Aug 2012 #20
Why can't we talk about CLASS in America? Why pretend like being white is like winning the lottery? Romulox Aug 2012 #21
Because anybody in America who talks about class Jamaal510 Aug 2012 #23
Indeed. So "white guy" becomes shorthand for "middleclass and comfortable", even though most on Romulox Aug 2012 #24
Race and class are closely linked in America.... YoungDemCA Aug 2012 #25
From an racially ambiguous brown DUer... +1,000,000! This is just an unproductive distraction Zalatix Aug 2012 #33
Thanks Zalatix. Dividing working people based on race is precisely what the ruling class wants. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #38
Dividing working people based on anything that works (not just race) is what the ruling class wants. pampango Aug 2012 #57
Because of the overarching "Horatio Alger" American Dream story Patiod Aug 2012 #35
It's almost as if the Boomers want young people to pay the price for THEIR privilege. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #36
Yes, all Boomers want young people to fail. kiva Aug 2012 #55
To amplify this brilliant post: we have the worst class mobility in the developed world. Worst. Romulox Aug 2012 #37
You mean like ... the guy in the video? ieoeja Aug 2012 #39
No. That's not really a coherent dialogue on class, -at all-. "White" is not an economic class. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #41
+1 Starry Messenger Aug 2012 #42
Most important thing he said: Stop squabbling and realize who's punking us Patiod Aug 2012 #44
There's already been a not-so-subtle attempt to smear me as a racist for bringing up Class here... Romulox Aug 2012 #49
K&R Sherman A1 Aug 2012 #22
Amazing brush Aug 2012 #26
"Get off the pity pot" part man all 86 Aug 2012 #27
I heart Bill me b zola Aug 2012 #28
Excellent!!! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #29
!!! life begins at ejaculation! I love it! liberalla Aug 2012 #30
Kudos to your friend! Melissa G Aug 2012 #31
K & R HCE SuiGeneris Aug 2012 #32
Terrific. Need to pass this one along! VOX Aug 2012 #34
Where should the march start? lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #40
What does this have to do with me not getting laid? n/t ieoeja Aug 2012 #43
If he weren't already married, I'd propose duhneece Aug 2012 #45
fucking brilliant.... Evasporque Aug 2012 #46
great message and ... shireen Aug 2012 #47
what a stupid video hfojvt Aug 2012 #48
Lighten up Rainngirl Aug 2012 #51
He is so right Rabid_Rabbit Aug 2012 #50
You get that white privilege (and male privilege) aren't really about individual people, right? cyberswede Aug 2012 #58
Did you not watch the video nichomachus Aug 2012 #59
Focus on the actual dicks who are punking our whole country while we squabble over the scraps ErikJ Aug 2012 #52
Out. Freaking. Standing - I just posted it to my facebook. lamp_shade Aug 2012 #53
D'oh! ejbr Aug 2012 #54
I love this guy. TheAmbivalante Aug 2012 #56

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
15. If you are a white guy in yor 40s, and you are not as successful as you think
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 05:07 PM
Aug 2012

you should be ... the problem is not gays, women, minorities, illegals, or liberals.

The problem can be found in the mirror. And with the right wing nuts you tend to vote for based on false xenophobic patriotism memes.

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
16. My sediments exactly ...
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 05:14 PM
Aug 2012

sometimes I listen to other white guys who don't understand that we have it way too well, compared to others and figure that they just want attention. They want to be a victim. A great big strapping cock of the walk victim.
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
17. Excellent. Thanks for posting. This old white guy agrees....
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 05:32 PM
Aug 2012

... smartest decision I ever made was picking the right parents.

 

Vietnameravet

(1,085 posts)
20. Good very good
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 06:01 PM
Aug 2012

Not only a good message but delivered by a guy who must be a professional on-camera person. This should go national.
VERY GOOD!!!

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
21. Why can't we talk about CLASS in America? Why pretend like being white is like winning the lottery?
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 06:05 PM
Aug 2012

It's disfunctional, that we aren't even allowed to talk about class issues without insults, as in the video...

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
24. Indeed. So "white guy" becomes shorthand for "middleclass and comfortable", even though most on
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 06:19 PM
Aug 2012

welfare, foodstamps, and other forms of assistance as lower class whites.

To tell these types that they were "born on third" almost feels like a defense of the status quo to me.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
33. From an racially ambiguous brown DUer... +1,000,000! This is just an unproductive distraction
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 12:58 AM
Aug 2012

and a GREAT way for the Plutocracy to keep us divided.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
38. Thanks Zalatix. Dividing working people based on race is precisely what the ruling class wants. nt
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 11:08 AM
Aug 2012

pampango

(24,692 posts)
57. Dividing working people based on anything that works (not just race) is what the ruling class wants.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:24 PM
Aug 2012

They are just as happy to categorize people based on religion (Christian vs Muslim), gender (men vs women), sexual orientation (straight vs gay), nationality (American vs Canadian) or ethnicity (Hispanic vs Anglo) if they think they can scare us into thinking that the "them" workers have to worry about is not the ruling class but other workers who are a little 'different' from us. The ruling class is happy to divide working people on any basis that keeps the focus off of the "99% vs 1%" cause of our problems.

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
35. Because of the overarching "Horatio Alger" American Dream story
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 09:43 AM
Aug 2012

My dad was born into the working class, but he and millions of other white guys were forcibly yanked out of it by Uncle Sam and the GI Bill (fought tooth and nail by conservatives, by the way, and passed by a whisker).

He "only" made sales manager of his company, but I talk to a lot of his friends who are former CEOs, CFOs or even in one case a CIO (yes, even back then!), and have to imagine that few if any of them would reach those positions today with their poor backgrounds, heavy local accents and iffy high school educations. Not one of them would have ever been able to afford college on their own. And when my dad got out of the service, veteran status and leadership experience got you a lot further than they might today.
Plus the US was the only country not focused on re-building, and companies grew like crazy in the vacuum, and they could afford to hire lots of GI-Bill educated guys like my dad and his friends.

That window was open for a short period after WWII, and according to statistics, we're right back where we were before it opened, with little class mobility.

But we still like to THINK that window is opened, if only people just TRIED harder....

kiva

(4,373 posts)
55. Yes, all Boomers want young people to fail.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:04 PM
Aug 2012
Now that you've discovered our plot we will send out Mercenaries With Walkers (MWW) to kill you.
 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
39. You mean like ... the guy in the video?
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 11:19 AM
Aug 2012

“{I}t’s in all of our best interest not to embarrass ourselves by moaning, ‘what about us.’ Instead, we’d all be a lot better off if we focused our energy on the actual dicks who are punking the whole country while we squabble over the scraps.”


Romulox

(25,960 posts)
41. No. That's not really a coherent dialogue on class, -at all-. "White" is not an economic class. nt
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 11:22 AM
Aug 2012

brush

(53,778 posts)
26. Amazing
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 06:24 PM
Aug 2012

What a post. Thanks so much for sharing. That line of being born on 3rd base when everyone else is still lining up for an at bat is priceless. This needs to be seen by as many eyes as possible. I'm sure it'll change some perspectives.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
40. Where should the march start?
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 11:22 AM
Aug 2012


Ours is the only generation of american men who will make less than their grandfathers.

This video is more of the same "man up" bullshit, intended to both sustain his "top of the mountain" self image as well as cultivate adoring fans of his enlightened views. He's whistling a catchy through the graveyard.

So you'll march if you find that you're 10x more likely to go to jail? Read more, dude. because you're a man, you are 11x more likely.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
48. what a stupid video
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 12:06 PM
Aug 2012

How the heck is a talk like that supposed to help anything, except his own "I am superior to other ignorant white guys" ego?

I guess white guys are NOT part of the 99% then. If they feel like they are getting screwed by the rich, or by a system that favors and serves the rich, they should just get off their pity pot and remember that they were born on 3rd base.

So that failed graduate student who was working at McDonalds. If only he had been reminded that he was born on 3rd base, then he never would have shot up that movie theater.

Oh, but he WAS off the pity pot. He didn't want anybody to feel sorry for him. He wanted them to fear him - to respect him at least a little bit that way.

Rainngirl

(243 posts)
51. Lighten up
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:41 PM
Aug 2012

I think you are missing the point and are taking this too seriously. I believe this video was made for people like Rush Limbo and most of the other far right boneheads who are constantly bitching about how hard they have it now that the stupid women and minorities insist on trying to have equal rights and to not be thought of as second class citizens just because of an "accident" of birth. How DARE they want to be equal! (That's sarcasm, in case you're missing MY point, too.) White men will NEVER know what it's like to be thought of as "less than" in in this hateful patriarchal society. I'm just really sick of it. My ovaries and breasts make me no less of valuable human bean and shame on the people who think they do.

 

Rabid_Rabbit

(131 posts)
50. He is so right
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:22 PM
Aug 2012

I was just laughing at this old white homeless guy, thinking that he is a complete loser for not having made it. Don't let me get started on my white co-worker who is about to lose his house after his wife lost her job and his son was in a car accident.
I like judging people by their color of their skin, it is much easier than evaluating people as individuals.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
59. Did you not watch the video
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:11 PM
Aug 2012

He was quite explicit that white privilege didn't mean that you were exempt from having problems in your life. However, all in all, you're better off on average being a white heterosexual male. People in this country are judged by the color of their skin and, if it's not white, life is a lot harder. That's why it's always so ludicrous to hear white men say they are being discriminated against as a group -- which is what the video addressed.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
52. Focus on the actual dicks who are punking our whole country while we squabble over the scraps
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:42 PM
Aug 2012

sums it up nicely.

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