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You had to know it was going to happen. You had to know that Fox News was waiting for a way to tarnish Gabby Douglas victories at the Olympics, and the folks at Fox have finally concocted a way; questioning how Douglas could be a true patriot if shes not wearing the stars and stripes.
On last weeks America Live, host Alisyn Camerota speculated on how some folks noticed that the famous flag-styled outfits of Olympics past were replaced by yellow shirts, grey track suits and pink leotards
Actually, Im sure some folks means Fox producers, since no ones been paying much attention to aesthetics. The Olympics is about talent and perseverance, not fashion, but what would the folks at Fox know about that?
Anyway, almost like clockwork, Camerota and her guest, Sirius/XM radio host David Webb, zoomed in on Gabby Douglas.
You know, Gabby had that great moment, and everyone was so excited, and shes in hot pink and thats her prerogative, Camerota said. Webb speculated, Whats wrong with showing some pride? He compared Douglas uniform to a kind of soft anti-American feeling that Americans cant show their exceptionalism. Camerota then pointed out how other nations, like China, wore nationalistic colors.
So now America should try to be like China? I thought conservatives hated communism?
This may very well be about color, but if so, its not about the color of Gabby Douglas outfits.
http://www.kulturekritic.com/2012/08/news/fox-news-says-gabby-douglas-outfits-arent-patriotic-enough/#
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)just to show their patriotism? What a bunch of hooey.
niyad
(113,306 posts)ieoeja
(9,748 posts)My dad didn't like incorporating the flag in clothing where it would get dirty and sweaty. And on mudflats or as a bug screen in front of a truck's radiator? Livid!
He and many others in his American Legion Post absolutely hated Newt Gingrich for "pretending to be a veteran".
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)niyad
(113,306 posts)ananda
(28,860 posts)I just hate all the patriotic symbols behind our leaders.
It reeks of Nazism.
malaise
(268,998 posts)Her color isn't patriotic enough for that sport.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)They focus on the mouth breathing Fauxbots and that is all they care about.
flakey_foont
(3,338 posts)I wonder what the above mentioned Fox Nooz wankers were doing for the US when they were 16....
Geez, what in the world does it matter if she wore pink?? 'Some folks' need to be a little less critical.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)would have difficulty getting up from their arm chair, let alone perform as Gabby did. Poor thing, wrong hair, wrong outfit...but SHE has the gold!
Go, Gabby!
get the red out
(13,466 posts)When did any of them ever work as hard to represent their country as that young lady? They surely don't represent it as well as she does.
dballance
(5,756 posts)while not prohibiting the wearing of clothing that resembles the flag does seem to suggest doing so is in poor taste. That people may find it diminishes the dignity of the flag.
My personal opinion is that it is in poor taste and does not dignify the flag. Especially when I see it on t-shirts pulled over and wrapped around the folds of fat on so many Tea Partiers at their rallies.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)picks the uniforms for their athletes to wear at the Olympics. Take it up with them, you inbred Faux doucherockets.
reflection
(6,286 posts)Why don't they just wear flag suits every day on the set if they're that damned obsessed with nationalism.
It's always a good time to post this link when Fox News' Outrage Du Jour is being discussed:
http://rense.com/general37/char.htm
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Nay
(12,051 posts)they single out Gabby for the illustration?
RACISM. Those 'colored' people aren't REAL AMERICANS.
God, I'm so sick of this shit. Is there no one to call these fucks out??
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)they might stop being such racist idiots when it comes to our african american president.
It is all part of the same programming.
The others have the same outfits.
To be honest, I complained a bit about some of the uniforms this year. I mean, usually there is a cohesive theme to the design of all the athletes uniforms. But this year it's sort of like anything goes. I don't think they need to all look like flags, but just a general use of the US colors is usually typical.
I found it most noticeable with the swim teams this year. Both from the US and other countries. Some wore plain black suits, I saw one or two who had on these whitish-gray suits with orange striping (which swimmers from other teams wore as well.) Soni and others had hot pink suits they sometimes wore. Personally, I really didn't like the non-uniform uniforms this year. Especially with the swimmers. It does make it harder to tell who is from where when they are all just wearing black or whatever.
The woman from the US who won the shooting event was wearing what looked like a brown Carhart jacket and black yoga pants when she received her medal. It did not look good in my opinion.
But singling out Gabby in this case smacks of racism. The gymnasts all wore the same uniforms - which I saw them in at various times in pink, blue, red, and white.
As a Vietnam veteran that believes we should honor the flag rather than use it to hide our bigotry, let me express my 100 percent agreement with you. And to all people who face racism from these haters, let me say I am sorry as a white man that this occurs.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)The hatriots at Fox just can't stand it.
colorado_ufo
(5,734 posts)I think the term "hatriots" ranks right up there with "Romney-Hood." LOVE IT!
Mind if I borrow it?
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)Everyone wears what the US team provides.
rocktivity
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)Good grief!
yellerpup
(12,253 posts)Got that right! This kind of stuff makes me sick. I have to question Fox's patriotism for whining about this outstanding gold medal winner. The only thing exceptional about Fox is their hatred and bigotry.
Pyrzqxgl
(1,356 posts)rocktivity
(44,576 posts)and probably got a MUCH better deal...
rocktivity
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)so that I can have that picture of her.
It would be great to show support for her by everyone buying the box and pushing sales of it through the roof.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)Petty Idiotic Gobsmackingly Stupid people.
Arkansas Granny
(31,516 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Fox? Not at all.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)Is she a vocal Obama supporter, or something?
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)They really can't stomach that.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)I hadn't noticed they were treated disparagingly by the media. I wonder if it is just in style for FOX to play up to closet racists right now, since this is an election year. I am just guessing, here.
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)for the little cute pixie white girls...you know...the ones that LOOK All-"American"...
iemitsu
(3,888 posts)they are always small.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)stirring up the racists ever since we elected a black president.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)She's now on the First Lady's fitness board.
Nobody said anything negative about Dawes that I can recall.
Everyone was just happy that she did well in, I think, three olympics.
These faux folks are idiots.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)amandabeech
(9,893 posts)I might have just sighed back in the '70s and assumed that people would get over their prejudices.
But its 2012, and I'm still waiting.
What a sorry state of affairs.
JI7
(89,249 posts)recent murderer at the temple they are dangerous.
there are racists in europe also but they are usually not taken seriously. they have their little rallies and things but they are seen as extremists.
in America they are represented by one of the major parties.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)Then you get people like the guy in Milwaukee.
I take a different view of the Republican party than many people here. I have met Republicans who are conservative, but not racist. In fact I've met quite a few because I grew up in a small town in the Midwest. In fact, the last time I was there (in May and June), I visited some of my friends and they were upset because some people believed that they were racist just because they are Republican. I've known these people for years and they don't have a racist bone in their bodies.
I don't agree with these people on a lot of things, but I don't condemn them because of their party, nor do I wish to make a blanket statement that all Republicans are racist.
I like to take people as individuals.
P.S. Most of the Republicans I know don't like Rmoney much, and didn't like any of the other R candidates, either.
JI7
(89,249 posts)i think she won silver and bronze in some things. and she got the gold for the Team competition.
but the individual is always special.
also i think the sport has gotten more attention lately and olympic stars can usually extend their fame longer and onto other things.
on various boards i have seen comments where you can tell the problem people have is with a black kid winning. and what i interesting is that it's not foreigners like Russians who were competing that are upset but racist americans. rather than be proud one of our own won. they would rather it be a foreigner than a black american kid.
i agree with the poster who said the thing about Obama being black also.
but these people have always been racist. they are just more open about it.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)One gold, all others bronze. Even though she was an extraordinarily good gymnast she didn't stand out as one of the individual stars in the Olympics. That made it easier for bigots to minimize her role on the team and focus instead on Strug and Miller.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)They'll usually shut up if someone is close enough to call them on their crap-and I'd like to think that she would call them on it.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)to them, that is offensive.
randome
(34,845 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)onenote
(42,703 posts)Oh, wait. Maybe not.
Sarah Hughes: Gold Medal
Michelle Kwan: Bronze Medal
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)onenote
(42,703 posts)But even the gymnasts in past years haven't always worn uniforms that were "patriotic" in composition. Sometimes they've been all red, or purple, or some other color. Not flag or even red-white-blue.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)At least, those are the colors I've seen.
Maroney had on a white one that was a lot like Gaby's fushia one last night when she won silver in vault.
I think that they're all made by GK, who used to make figure skating clothing, too.
Both gymnasts and figure skaters usually go with individual costumes. Remember the controversial Tanya Harding some years back? Much was said and written about how difficult it was for her to afford her costumes, being from a less affluent background.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,446 posts)There's more. Wow, is there more. Those are about the tamest pictures of him I could find.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)would punish an errant newsreader who dissed the country's athletes. would fox like us to emulate that as well?
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)I don't understand why Fox would seem to have a problem with h--Oh, I get it now.
Liberal In Texas
(13,552 posts)Jingoism all fixed up and focus-grouped into a simple catch-word.
I guess Manifest Destiny is so out of date.
Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)I thought FOX was all about rugged individualism? You know 'I got mine to hell with everybody else.' She's not out there to represent the bloated Cheeto eating slobs that sit there nodding along with the 24/7 propaganda network. She's first and foremost representing herself. She put in hours of hard work that led her to where she is today. It's her gold medal and she can wear what she wants.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)onenote
(42,703 posts)Blue Owl
(50,374 posts)n/t
lamp_shade
(14,834 posts)dballance
(5,756 posts)First they don't like her hair and she responded beautifully to that "controversy." Now, despite the fact she won the all-around gold and a gold with the team and she's not patriotic enough because of the uniform the USOC issued her????
How about a "Great going Gabby! You've made the US proud" from these louts who probably can't touch their toes.
I don't remember any of this crap when the cute, petite little white girls of olympics past were winning. Seriously, is there a race element to all this?
earthside
(6,960 posts)... it is 'ours', the U.S.A.
I heard something like that this morning on the radio news "... the United States got another gold medal yesterday."
I thought Repuglicans and Romneyites did not believe that 'we' do anything, it is only the individual.
Hypocrites.
louis-t
(23,295 posts)I'm so sick of repugs.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Do individual gymnasts actually get to choose their own outfits?
Baitball Blogger
(46,709 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)I just threw up in my mouth.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)That does it. I'm sleeping with a light on tonight.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)bpj62
(999 posts)Gabby wore the pink outfit in the all around competition. The entire team wore a red outfit during the team competition. As a prior poster pointed out the all of the sleeves have USA with stars circling it on the sleeve. If fox really has a beef they should look at the swimmers outfits because as far as I could tell the outfits only had the manufactors name on it. some did have a cap with an american flag on it. Also the Russian Gymnasts had on these deep coral blue outfits which my wife said were beautiful but had nothing to do with the current russian flags or colors.
FAUX News needs to get a life.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)they'll require an American flag tattoo'd on their backs.
Every time they throw hissy fits over the flag, it makes me ill to even see our flag. I hate them for that.
I don't wear a flag and I'm as much or more patriotic than these clowns. Same goes for religion.
Initech
(100,076 posts)As the late great George Carlin said - "Politicians hide behind three things - that flag, the Bible, and children. I consider those things to be symbols and I leave that to the symbol minded."
Johonny
(20,851 posts)once every idiot in politics has a flag lapel pin, who gives a *. Once every baseball 7th inning stretch is god bless America, who gives a *. There is a thing as saturation overload. If American Athlete going for gold for America ain't enough for you, I suggest therapy. It's time for the intervention to talk to people with odd fake patriotism addiction.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)And it has nothing to do with what she wore.
Fucking Racist Douchebags.
They are trying to crowbar in the "Black People (LIKE BARACK OBAMA!!!) Are Not Patriotic" message.
Everything, and by that I mean EVERYTHING Fox does or says has an underlying message.
spanone
(135,832 posts)Fla Dem
(23,668 posts)off shore to avoid paying taxes Mr Webb and Ms. Camerota?
How about you idiots focusing on things that really matter instead of hurling made up jabs and insults at a 16 year old gymnast who has more talent in her little finger than you will ever hope to have. Could it be she is African -American, like our President and that's just something that makes you go berserk or are you just plain bigoted? How small minded you both are. You are nothing but a bully and a mean girl.
bobburgster
(1,740 posts)....about Gabby Douglas would not exist if she was white. Makes me sick to my stomach!
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)I think FOX is projecting a different color problem.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)What the hell happened to your with us or against us and all that this is America bullshit they proclaimed?
RagAss
(13,832 posts)Justice wanted
(2,657 posts)comes to those colors)
They are petty ignorante jerks. You'd think after what happened on Sunday they'd stop this type of Hate talk.
There regular views know all their "Code Words" are and what their stories are REALLY about.
budkin
(6,703 posts)libinnyandia
(1,374 posts)Would they be unemployable? )
RZM
(8,556 posts)Brit Hume was ABC's WH correspondent. Chris Wallace worked for NBC news. Greta van Xenu worked for CNN. John Roberts was a longtime CBS news guy, going back to the Dan Rather era. And Geraldo and O'Reilly made their names on sensationalist shit. Geraldo had his own crappy show and O'Reilly was on 'Inside Edition.' Many of their contributors were well known as well. Krauthammer, Krystal, Barnes, and Kondracke are all well known, and Mara Liasson and Juan Williams are and were NPR people.
On edit, I forgot Glenn Beck:
He was on CNN before Fox. He definitely took the nuttiness up a notch when he moved to Fox.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)Gross.
Thumper79
(116 posts)"Neanderthals mated with some modern humans after all and left their imprint in the human genome, a team of biologists has reported in the first detailed analysis of the Neanderthal genetic sequence." (http://fwd4.me/17E9) These sub-human man-like animals are the ones who get hired at Fux. (Just look at Michelle Malkin-she can't hide her genetic ancestors.) They only like the white part of this country. Owners/producers/CEOs/etc., are old white angry men.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)Committee and ask them why those colors were picked for the outfits, DUH.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)because, in their minds, there is no such thing as any black female being born innnocent, even one who works harder than any of them ever will to win something none of them ever will.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Multiple times.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)all of the freaking time. And the only patterns have to be white stars on a blue field and red and white stripes. Let's see how long their wardrobe dept deals with that.
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)It is code for 'blacks should not get medals in gymnastic'.
GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)I don't see the big deal. We all know she's representing for the USA. Says so on the screen and the announcers told us so over and over again.
eridani
(51,907 posts)Bette Noir
(3,581 posts)yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Stars and stripes wouldn't have looked as good on her, imo.
GoCubsGo
(32,083 posts)Last edited Tue Aug 7, 2012, 11:30 AM - Edit history (1)
Aly Raisman wore the same damn outfit, yet not a peep about her being "unpatriotic". Sheesh. It's not like the girls are the ones who made the choices on what to wear that night.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)red, white, and blue as their fat asses can handle. Until then, STFU!
Lucy Goosey
(2,940 posts)Fuck Fox. Seriously. SHE WON TWO GOLD MEDALS ON BEHALF OF HER COUNTRY. Nobody at Fox has done anything nearly so patriotic.
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)No decency, not one damn bit.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)The sociopaths who dictate the content of FOX commentaries are really struggling to come up with effective red herrings, so that the Hoi Polloi remain distracted from the
~~reduced yield of key crops due to extreme to exceptional drought conditions;
~~over 30,000 record-breaking heat indices across the nation;
~~electronic touch-screen voting machines that are easily hacked and assuredly used to manipulate elections;
~~the continued disintegration of the global economy; and
~~the glaring lack of job-creation legislation.
I could go on, and on, and on...it's too depressing.
canEHdian
(62 posts)This would have been vastly more appropriate in 1936 Berlin.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Communists are good, as long as the make cheap crap for us, ala China or Vietnam. Cuba? Not so much. It make perfect (non)sense.
Beartracks
(12,814 posts)"If you look at China, they dont have food stamps. If you look at China, theyre in a very different situ they save for their own retirement security. They dont have pay FDIC. They dont have the modern welfare state. And Chinas growing." -- Michelle Bachmann
http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/2011/11/13/uh-oh-michele-bachmann-says-china-has-a-better-socio-economic-system-than-ours/
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awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)the guys with the nets and nice white coats would take her away.
skeewee08
(1,983 posts)Leave Gabby alone.....
Enrique
(27,461 posts)black female athletes are being closely monitored.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)It wasn't specifically Gabby, it was all of the Olympians
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)There I said it!
I mean here is a young girl from a hard working class family who struggled to help this young girl to reach her dreams of being a top tier gymnist. Gabby Douglas worked hard to achieve her dream and that reward was winning 2 Gold Medals at the Olympics including best individual in the all-around competition.
So for someone commenting about her hairstyle? Really?
And about Uniform come on? A simple google search shows that not all USA uniforms are solid Red,White & Blue, doesn't make these kids any less patriotic.
What burns me is these comments are being made by assholes who probably schlep thru life sitting on the sofa blaming everyone else for their shitty life. Then Faux News catches on and decides they should make this a news story. Hey here's a news story - an avowed White Racist when guns ablazing in a Shik center but hell who cares because Gabby Douglas' african american hair isn't perfect as she tumbles away in her hot pink unform.
ecstatic
(32,704 posts)when I look at Gabby Douglas, the first African-American female gymnastics gold medalist, and remember the sacrifices she has made, sacrifices her father had to watch from a distance because of his obligations to our country's security, my heart swells with pride, for her, for her team and coaches, and for America.
There's no need to wave the flag. The moment speaks for itself.
But for Webb, it's not enough. She should have worn old glory, painted her face red, white, and blue, and sung the Star Spangle Banner while she took her final tumbling pass during the floor routine. Then, maybe, she will have met the litmus test for properly representing our country on the world's greatest stage.
With his ill timed remarks, Webb has tarnished what should have been a glorious moment, for Douglas and for America. David Webb is a small man, made smaller by his small mind, and his big mouth. Shame on him, and shame on Fox News for this bizarre carnival sideshow.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/06/1117271/-David-Webb-v-Gabby-Douglas-Talking-the-talk-v-walking-the-walk
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Flatpicker
(894 posts)How my grandparents and my parents had told me that the flag should be seen with respect.
We weren't supposed to display the flag or it's likeness unless it was an actual flag.
That meant, no drawn flag likenesses, no flag clothing, and no flag patches sewn onto our jackets.
Maybe that was old thinking? But I still can't see people wearing the flag as if it were pants or jackets without it feeling "wrong".
heaven05
(18,124 posts)I just can't take these attacks on an athlete who had to work very hard to win! This is such shit!!!
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)that the uniforms not have any distracting or confusing designs on them since the sport is scored in part on form. Stripes would be distracting.
colorado_ufo
(5,734 posts)the colors of the USA, France, Great Britain, Russia, etc. etc. etc.
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)Who is that guy David Webb?? Where do they find these people?? Oh and the typical - some people say. So sick of this crap!!
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Huh?
The girls wear costumes. Not uniforms.
Last night, the girls had matching green hoodies! Oh noes!
Butterbean
(1,014 posts)Laugh all the way to the bank with your sweet endorsement deal and GOLD MEDALS, Gabby. What the hell??? REALLY? Her OUTFIT and HAIR are what people choose to focus on? Have any of the MALE athletes been criticized for what they are wearing or their appearance AT ALL?? Have any of the white girls been criticized?
Seriously, WTF?
hughee99
(16,113 posts)you paid $1000+ for a Ralph Lauren suit to wear for the opening ceremonies that was made in China.
allan01
(1,950 posts)meh. quit watching fox noize and quit listening to the am radio not patraiotic enough. hem
Botany
(70,504 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)a la izquierda
(11,795 posts)Aly Raisman's outfit tonight.
bhikkhu
(10,716 posts)is more popular than the news itself, it would seem.
Nevertheless, this will deservedly drop into the memory hole and be forgotten, while we'll remember her smile and performances for a long while.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)yes INDEED
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)wiretapping.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)needs therapy
RZM
(8,556 posts)I don't think he's racist against black people. He definitely doubles down on the nationalism/patriotism though.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)there is plenty of black on black racism and this ignorant ass proves that. I'm suprised allen west and herman cain didn't join him on the set and say the same god damn thing.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)The issue is not her clothes. It's her skin color.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)none of them commenting could run up 27 flights of steps to save their own lives. Mediocre, soft in the middle and chemically addle-brained is what they are. Talking is all they can do.
Gabby could snap their neck with her bi-ceps.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)our flag's colors by sweating in them.
this isn't about the color of her leotard: this is about the color of her skin and the temerity of her to accel and surpass in a sport that has, in the past, been the haven of little white girls.
all of the patriotism she needs to display is in the picture of her holding up her gold medal that she won for this country in the all around, and unfortunately, for these ingrates, too.
I don't see any of them wearing red, white and blue every single got damb day they're sitting on the set: so are they unpatriotic, too?
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)What's wrong with shutting the fuck up?
lobodons
(1,290 posts)What she thinking?
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Faux employs some of the most racist people on the planet. This has nothing to do with her outfits. Her skin color does. It goes hand in hand with the right. Connect the dots here. And thus more reason not to view FAUX. The right is eating this up big time, with a huge smile on their faces.