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Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:40 PM Aug 2012

Updated: person of interest in Oak Creek Sikh Temple shooting not involved per FBI

Last edited Mon Aug 6, 2012, 04:24 PM - Edit history (5)



At a news conference at 10 a.m., authorities said there were attempting to identify another person, a white male, who they described as "a person of interest."

A man matching the photo officials showed was seen by Journal Sentinel reporters at the scene of the temple Sunday, possibly video taping what was going on. Anyone with information on the man is asked to call 1-800-CALL-FBI.

More: http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/shooter-wade-page-was-army-vet-white-supremacist-856cn28-165123946.html


May be nothing but if any of our WI DUers see the person a call to the FBI is in order.


OAK CREEK (WKOW) -- Federal officials have named a "person of interest" in the Oak Creek Sikh temple shooting where a lone gunman killed six people.

That person is pictured to the right.

FBI Special Agent in Charge Teresa Carlson did not release the name of the man, but said he was a person of interest.

Officials say he came to the scene after the shooting.


http://www.wqow.com/story/19205814/fbi-names-person-of-interest-present-a-sikh-temple-shooting

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Updated: person of interest in Oak Creek Sikh Temple shooting not involved per FBI (Original Post) Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 OP
Is that tattoo some sort of 9-11 memorial? I can't make out the writing - n/t coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #1
I can't make it out either and I even tried cleaning up the image. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #2
Reason I asked is I could swear I saw a report somewhere that coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #10
I'm sure at least one witness did say he had a 9/11 tattoo. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #13
It also could have been a misunderstanding about the prominent 14/celtic Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #25
I considered that as well when I saw that photo today. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #32
I saw that posted and watched it. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #33
It is on his other arm. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #34
I must have missed that when I read the article in it's entirety last. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #35
the bottom looks like "9-11-01" renegade000 Aug 2012 #3
yep spanone Aug 2012 #6
View of 911 from across river...you can see the shoreline and bulding reflected...nt Evasporque Aug 2012 #12
I hope they have a clearer shot of that tattoo. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #4
They may have the uncompressed version of this photo eShirl Aug 2012 #5
It is the date says 9-11-01 Marrah_G Aug 2012 #7
My guess, the two got tatooed together and are "old comrades." Maybe more of them out there. leveymg Aug 2012 #14
Looks like someone is playing the Terry Nichols role. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2012 #8
I guess he was the driver...? Evasporque Aug 2012 #9
he has his keys in his hand...nt Evasporque Aug 2012 #18
I don't know but the update says he arrived after the shooting. nt Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #20
Nothing has been said about how Page got there... Evasporque Aug 2012 #21
One report yesterday said the police were searching a red pickup truck at the temple. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #23
Is it terrorism yet? Marr Aug 2012 #11
They have said all along HappyMe Aug 2012 #15
fbi said it was yesterday nt arely staircase Aug 2012 #24
I made the mistake of googling the shooters name Bluerthanblue Aug 2012 #16
Oh Com'on, knowledge is power nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #22
yeah, but Bluerthanblue Aug 2012 #29
I understand nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #31
Shouldn't take long to find him if he isn't on the run.... yellowcanine Aug 2012 #17
I'm sure they're checking out his bandmates B2G Aug 2012 #19
The wanted guy looks a bit like the guy on Page's right shoulder. Care Acutely Aug 2012 #28
Here's a video of him taking pictures sasha031 Aug 2012 #26
Is that a mullet? Quantess Aug 2012 #27
His hands in the clearer photo don't look like the hands of someone who does manual labor shraby Aug 2012 #30
They found him and ruled him out - and it is a 9-11-01 tattoo. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #36
Poor guy! Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #37
BREAKING, CNN: Person of interest has been located, questioned and cleared nt pinboy3niner Aug 2012 #38
CNN just reported FBI has found him GreatCaesarsGhost Aug 2012 #39

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
2. I can't make it out either and I even tried cleaning up the image.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:45 PM
Aug 2012

Perhaps we'll get a better photo to go by later.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
10. Reason I asked is I could swear I saw a report somewhere that
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:58 PM
Aug 2012

the now-dead shooter also had a 9-11 memorial tattoo.

Jesus H. Christ, that similarity of tattoos hints at a conspiracy a la Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols (and not some 'lone wolf' incident)

Found the report that dead shooter may have also had a 9-11 tattoo:

"A woman who says she was a neighbor of the suspect tells FoxNews.com that last week she heard yelling coming from the apartment she believes is the same one the FBI is now searching.

The neighbor says, as she understood it, the suspect had lived in the apartment with his girlfriend until their recent break-up. The suspect had then moved into another apartment nearby two weeks ago. She says he had returned to the old apartment and was banging on the door of his old apartment, demanding to be let in. The neighbor also said she believed the suspect had a 9-11 tattoo."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/06/authorities-search-for-motive-in-deadly-shooting-at-wisconsin-sikh-temple/#ixzz22lVGcsLX

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
13. I'm sure at least one witness did say he had a 9/11 tattoo.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 01:04 PM
Aug 2012

To be honest I wondered if they were mistaken and it was a 311 tattoo so favored by the white supremacist types. Now I'm wondering if it was actually a 9-11 tattoo similar to this one, perhaps? I can't make out the detail, but it is a 9-11-01 at the bottom.

All the photos I've seen so far of the shooter only show his left arm tattoos. I wonder what's on his right arm?

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
25. It also could have been a misunderstanding about the prominent 14/celtic
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 01:49 PM
Aug 2012

In a fluid and quickly moving situation, someone may have mistaken this nazi billboard for something 9-11 related (noting that this is only his left arm - I can't find any pics of his right).

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
32. I considered that as well when I saw that photo today.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:09 PM
Aug 2012

Honestly, there's no telling. The witnesses had to have all been in shock and such a mistake would have been easy to make.

There's a video further down the page of the second person of interest at the first link. I loaded it on my PC and it's not too much extra help. It shows him turning and walking away, but it doesn't show his left arm enough to be able to tell if he as any other tattoos there.

I know many firemen and police often have memorial tattoos of 9-11. So, the fact that this person has one isn't an indictment of anything nefarious necessarily.


It won't embed but here's a link to the video. http://bcove.me/urtblq90

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
33. I saw that posted and watched it.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:12 PM
Aug 2012

Didn't show his legs either.

Honestly, I think they have this guy in a room by dinner time today. He has a rather distinctive look - someone in that area has to know who he is (unless he panic'd when he saw his pic and ran).

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
34. It is on his other arm.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:44 PM
Aug 2012
In Cudahy, Amber Young, 14, said she saw the suspect walking his dog, a black Labrador, on several occasions and that Page had a 9/11 tattoo on his upper right arm. "He was walking his dog and it was right there," she said pointing to her own upper right arm. The tattoo said, "9/11" and "had a bunch of descriptions and stuff," Amber Young said.


http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/shooter-wade-page-was-army-vet-white-supremacist-856cn28-165123946.html

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
35. I must have missed that when I read the article in it's entirety last.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:54 PM
Aug 2012

That is an ever evolving piece of journalism. It's a real masterpiece of comprehensive resources.

I also missed the link between Page and Stormfront when I first read it this morning. No wonder they were all in a dither yesterday. He really was one of theirs, and not only in ideology.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
14. My guess, the two got tatooed together and are "old comrades." Maybe more of them out there.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 01:06 PM
Aug 2012

We know the shooter was kicked out of the military 2-3 years before 9/11, so they may not have been in the same unit along the way. But, who knows? That's where I would start looking, aside from Facebook pages.

That is why they called it Facebook, isn't it?

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
8. Looks like someone is playing the Terry Nichols role.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:53 PM
Aug 2012

The tattoo definitely says 9 -11 - 01 at the bottom. The rest is indistinct to me. I imagine he'll be in custody by the end of the day.

Evasporque

(2,133 posts)
9. I guess he was the driver...?
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:57 PM
Aug 2012

Page had no intention of dying at the scene....he exited after firing and was met in the parking lot by a single police officer...who probably got there in time to prevent the pickup man from entering the parking lot.

Evasporque

(2,133 posts)
21. Nothing has been said about how Page got there...
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 01:27 PM
Aug 2012

My guess he was dropped off and then the driver, the guy above was to go around block and pick him up...why would Page exit the building if he was on a suicide attack...? He wasn't he intended to ride out. But a squad got the call and was probably just a block or so away..page came out had a shootout with cop just as the guy above was to pick him up...the guy probably saw it go down and kept driving...

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
23. One report yesterday said the police were searching a red pickup truck at the temple.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 01:33 PM
Aug 2012

Which could mean nothing considering how much chaos there was in yesterday's reporting.

Going with the assumption this person is involved somehow, it could well be this person was supposed to give him a ride after the attack. Or he could have just been supposed to record the events for a historic record of their crime even.

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
16. I made the mistake of googling the shooters name
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 01:12 PM
Aug 2012

and found it linked to a website which was a forum of white power ....enthusiasts.

What I read there makes me believe that it is very possible that pictures were taken by people who support this kind of mind set. And the the incident will be used by the group to encourage others to become involved.

It was pretty disturbing. I know that these groups exist, but actually seeing the kind of crap that they have on there,..... to say it is depressing, would be putting it mildly.

I hope this photo yields more information about what happened.

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
29. yeah, but
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:05 PM
Aug 2012

reading that kind of shit really disturbs me in a major way. The only thing I can think to compare it to would be a pedophile forum.

It disgusts and angers me and makes the world seem hopless.

It's troubling to 'see' so many people with such twisted minds.... and to see them cheering each other on, and writing the kind of crap they do.....

not a place I can go, and feel ok with.

I know ignorance isn't bliss, but sometimes knowledge can be too distressing. It rattled me more than I expected.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
31. I understand
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:06 PM
Aug 2012

that is why some of us do it, so I guess, you don't have to. When I do, I am looking for patterns mostly.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
30. His hands in the clearer photo don't look like the hands of someone who does manual labor
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:05 PM
Aug 2012

or he's been unemployed for a long time.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
36. They found him and ruled him out - and it is a 9-11-01 tattoo.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 04:10 PM
Aug 2012
The 'person of interest' that the Federal Bureau of Investigations was interested in talking with in connection with the temple shooting investigation has been identified, contacted, and ruled out as having anything to do with the incident, FBI spokesman Leonard Peace said at 2:45 p.m.

The man was observed taking video of family members gathered in a parking lot near the temple on Sunday, within an hour of the shooting. He was dressed in black, had a 9-11-01 tattoo, and did not interact with anyone at the scene.


http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/fbi-person-of-interest-not-involved-in-temple-shooting-jr6d020-165172466.html

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
37. Poor guy!
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 04:15 PM
Aug 2012

While I am glad they're perusing the domestic terrorism angle vigorously, you know that had to be a bit of a shock for him.

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