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Opening scene to 'The Newsroom' (Wow, just wow!) (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Aug 2012 OP
I think I will start watching that show. I hope the rest of the show is this good... LiberalLoner Aug 2012 #1
Last night's episode Control-Z Aug 2012 #7
exactly...... dhill926 Aug 2012 #41
I agree. Blue_In_AK Aug 2012 #43
Do it. MurrayDelph Aug 2012 #9
This is by far the best show on television. I can't get enough, last nights episode called 5/1 Firebrand Gary Aug 2012 #2
Yeah this is one of the best shows on television. Volaris Aug 2012 #3
Its good, but not the best. The female characters are too ditzy and the dialogue a little to witty Pisces Aug 2012 #4
You actually think Mac needs any man's help?!? catbyte Aug 2012 #28
He berates liberals for losing? Cary Aug 2012 #5
Yes. Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #10
I don't accept this Jeff Cary Aug 2012 #11
I don't care... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #14
We win if we turn out and we vote Cary Aug 2012 #15
Dude---you haven't been paying attention... trumad Aug 2012 #16
To be replace by....(nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #17
That's an interesting question. Cary Aug 2012 #35
Which is why it controls the House of Representatives? Comrade Grumpy Aug 2012 #40
It will take a little more time.. trumad Aug 2012 #42
Winning by 192 electoral votes is not barely winning. Son of Gob Aug 2012 #19
Yes... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #39
When you say much of the population is stupid, that sounds just like that Romney supporter who Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #32
I'm sorry but I have no better explanation for "conservatives" Cary Aug 2012 #33
Meh. HappyMe Aug 2012 #6
Go "meh" yourself dogknob Aug 2012 #20
What the fuck are you talking about? HappyMe Aug 2012 #22
It tries to hard? I don't even begin to understand what that means, suspect you don't either. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2012 #21
Nice. HappyMe Aug 2012 #23
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #24
While I gave this a rec, I thought it to be exceeding self-conscious and artificial. Kurovski Aug 2012 #34
Anyone who loves the show, IGNORE THIS SUBTHREAD, please--I don't feel like fighting. MADem Aug 2012 #26
i got hbo for true blood but now am hooked on newsroom. catbyte Aug 2012 #30
I has its moments dsc Aug 2012 #47
"We made war on poverty not on poor people" - n/t lapfog_1 Aug 2012 #8
the war on poverty had to morph into and against rightwing, teabaggers and their army of fools. demosincebirth Aug 2012 #36
Synopsis please ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #12
HBO on Sunday nights lunatica Aug 2012 #13
Thanks ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #18
Think an updated West Wing. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #25
Does it conflict with Breaking Bad? MADem Aug 2012 #27
The time a program is 'on' is now actually not so important. Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #29
I don't have a DVR. Too cheap. One day, maybe. MADem Aug 2012 #31
I like Newsroom, but the acting and writing doesn't seem as effortless as West Wing. aikoaiko Aug 2012 #37
Did you notice that the guy on Newsroom dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #44
It's really true that most shows need 3-6 episodes to hit their stride. Nt Kurovski Aug 2012 #46
Newsroom has potentional and some decent sub plots, hopefully they can go up from where they started uponit7771 Aug 2012 #38
It's a GREAT SHOW... hwmnbn Aug 2012 #45

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
7. Last night's episode
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:01 PM
Aug 2012

was better than the one the week before. And last week's was better than the week before that. It just gets better with each new episode. I kid you not. It is a phenomenal show.

dhill926

(16,339 posts)
41. exactly......
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 03:34 PM
Aug 2012

we watched three episodes in a row last night trying to play catch up. You can see and hear the improvement from episode to episode. So nice to have some intelligent writing on the tube again.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
2. This is by far the best show on television. I can't get enough, last nights episode called 5/1
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 11:52 AM
Aug 2012

Was OMG unreal, I wept. True story is actually got me all choked up! Aaron Sorkin is a genus!

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
3. Yeah this is one of the best shows on television.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 11:54 AM
Aug 2012

Jeff Daniels is THE MAN in this, and the rest of the cast is stellar, as well.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
4. Its good, but not the best. The female characters are too ditzy and the dialogue a little to witty
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 11:56 AM
Aug 2012

non stop. I am embarrassed for these women and the shows writers that they feel they have to make them somewhat
incapable without the help of a man.

catbyte

(34,386 posts)
28. You actually think Mac needs any man's help?!?
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:34 PM
Aug 2012

That's not what I got and the men are just as ditzy. Think out of the box?

Cary

(11,746 posts)
5. He berates liberals for losing?
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 11:59 AM
Aug 2012

He positively slams "conservatives" and rightfully so. But we liberals are to blame because a significant part of our population is stupid?

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
10. Yes.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:31 PM
Aug 2012

If we can't explain to a $20,000/year sales clerk why voting for the Republican Party is a bad idea, then we're to blame. It's our fucking fault that for the past thirty years we've been unable to craft a message that resonates with equal power to "Lower Taxes. Less Government."

And then they're all the whining, which I personally can't stand in the least.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
11. I don't accept this Jeff
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:39 PM
Aug 2012

If WE, THE PEOPLE can't understand that voting for the Republican Party is a bad idea then WE, THE PEOPLE deserve what we get. That I will agree with. Republicans are not fit to govern and we collectively fail when we allow them to screw us over. However it is not the fault of liberals.

These things tend to be cyclical.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
14. I don't care...
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:58 PM
Aug 2012

Your acceptance doesn't win or lose elections.

We won in 2008 because the biggest fuck-up in American History spent eight years screwing up the country like few predecessors could have imagined in their worst nightmares. And then we barely won. And when we tried to fix things, we lost control of the House. We don't win on the basis of our ideas -- we win because Republicans are so massively craven and incompetent that for a moment, people vote for us out of desperation. The minute they don't feel desperate, they go back to the Republicans.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
35. That's an interesting question.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:58 PM
Aug 2012

I personally like Thom Hartmann's take on it. His theory is that the radicals hijack the Republican Party every 30 years or so. Eventually they flame out and yield to their moderates.

The idea that the radicals can be successful in the long run does defy logic. Simply look at what happens when they get into power. Their record is atrocious.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
40. Which is why it controls the House of Representatives?
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 03:30 PM
Aug 2012

And most governorships and a whole bunch of state legislatures?

Would that it were so. Maybe it'll implode in November. That would be nice.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
39. Yes...
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 03:26 PM
Aug 2012

But winning the popular vote with 53% given the economic crisis and two active wars, especially when you're running against a candidate who could not name one (not ONE) Bush Administration initiative he would have handled differently is pretty damned shocking.

Given the history of the previous eight years, 47% of the American people were ready to keep doing what we'd been doing and hope for a better result.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
32. When you say much of the population is stupid, that sounds just like that Romney supporter who
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:43 PM
Aug 2012

said 'the common people just don't understand' only in cruder terms.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
33. I'm sorry but I have no better explanation for "conservatives"
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:55 PM
Aug 2012

Let's face it, half the population has an IQ under 100. Right?

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
20. Go "meh" yourself
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 01:19 PM
Aug 2012

If you can't change anything by sitting in your little bubble and bitching to people who generally agree with you then it just isn't worth it, huh?

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
23. Nice.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 01:24 PM
Aug 2012

I merely said that I didn't like the tv show.

Now, you are implying I'm stupid? Get over yourself.

Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #21)

Kurovski

(34,655 posts)
34. While I gave this a rec, I thought it to be exceeding self-conscious and artificial.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:58 PM
Aug 2012

Probably a director's fault, and some over- heated writing.

But it has a core idea I found to be compelling enough to recommend it.

Television is a weird thing.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. Anyone who loves the show, IGNORE THIS SUBTHREAD, please--I don't feel like fighting.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:27 PM
Aug 2012

I don't mind a dissenting opinion.

I am considering--since I am trapped in "Heatville" and foregoing my usual summer holiday--getting HBO a bit early (I'll get it for BOARDWALK EMPIRE, because I like that show, but I'm cheap and turn it off to save a few bucks).

Tell me what you honestly think about the program--when you say "Tries too hard" are you saying it is a bit preachy, or that the writing isn't good, the characters too broadly drawn? How many episodes did you watch before you gave up, or are you still watching and just not enthused?

I haven't seen the show; just wondering if you regard it as just OK or awful or something else.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
47. I has its moments
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 09:01 PM
Aug 2012

but there are also problems. Criminal under use of Jane Fonda is one. The ditzy women syndrome that sadly often happens in Sorkin land. On the plus side Jeff Daniels is nothing short of riveting. Dev Patel and the guy who plays the other mid level staffer are also great. It is fascinating to see the news room when they stay out of the ditzy personal drama drivel. As a whole I recommend it.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
13. HBO on Sunday nights
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:53 PM
Aug 2012

A news show that decides to tell the truth. Dialogue driven and based on true things that have happened in the last year or so.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
25. Think an updated West Wing.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:22 PM
Aug 2012

Same writer, same tone. Intelligent, fast paced, moving, articulate. And has already been picked up for Season 2
( thanks, HBO).
It IS among the best of the best in television. I am keeping all the episodes.

Not a perfect show, could lose the relationship issues, but still, heads above almost anything out there.

HBO, sunday nights.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. Does it conflict with Breaking Bad?
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:31 PM
Aug 2012

WTF is it with the networks, public, cable and premium, putting all the good shit on at the same time? They're like pigs fighting over a single slop bowl, when there are other slop bowls popping up seven days a week that are ignored, completely!

It's why the "TV" model is going by the wayside. People prefer to be able to sample what they please, when they please.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
29. The time a program is 'on' is now actually not so important.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:36 PM
Aug 2012

If I miss Newsroom, I watch it two hours later, or on drv, or On Demand, or on my computer, the tablet, you name it. What's changing is programming models and tactics.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
31. I don't have a DVR. Too cheap. One day, maybe.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 02:42 PM
Aug 2012

On Demand makes me wait a day.

I don't have a "new" tv, so I don't have my computer "sync'd" to the telly.

I have a flat screen television...with a cathode ray tube. It was expensive at the time, has a very nice picture, still, and I'm getting my money's worth out of it!

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
37. I like Newsroom, but the acting and writing doesn't seem as effortless as West Wing.
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 03:16 PM
Aug 2012

Maybe they'll get in a better flow soon.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
44. Did you notice that the guy on Newsroom
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 05:30 PM
Aug 2012

who plays Elliot Hersch looks a lot like
John Spencer who played Leo McGarry on West Wing?

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