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applegrove

(118,689 posts)
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 06:51 PM Jun 2018

Trump Foundation's Lawyer Asks that Trial not Begin so Close to Midterms; Judge Laughs

trumpimpeachment at Daily Kos

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/30/1776943/-Trump-Foundation-s-Lawyer-Asks-that-Trial-not-Begin-so-Close-to-Midterms-Judge-Laughs

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The Trump Foundation is being sued by New York’s attorney general, Barbara Underwood, for using the charity to enrich and benefit the Trump family. Lawyers for the Trump Foundation, which is run by Trump and his oldest children, Don Jr, Eric, and Ivanka made a ridiculous request during court proceedings on Tuesday. They asked that the execution of justice be rescheduled to accommodate the midterm elections. New Yorker:

During Tuesday’s hearing, the Trump Foundation’s lawyer, Alan Futerfas, asked that the trial not commence in October, because it was so close to the midterms. Judge Scarpulla laughed in response, did not change the trial date, and hinted that she is likely to require the President to testify.

The Trumps don't seem to realize that the justice is system is apolitical by design, so the fact that the trial date is close to the midterms is not relevant to the courts. Hence the laughter in response.

The hint about requiring Trump to testify makes for a fascinating scenario. The sitting president testifying in a court case trying to explain why money was flowing from his charitable foundation into his pockets and those of his children while his party is campaigning for midterm elections that could have a major impact on the future of his presidency and his party. Sounds like a potential political disaster, at least for an ordinary politician.

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Trump Foundation's Lawyer Asks that Trial not Begin so Close to Midterms; Judge Laughs (Original Post) applegrove Jun 2018 OP
Way cool! triron Jun 2018 #1
I like her! Carry on, maam! eom Frustratedlady Jun 2018 #2
Well, I guess getting rid of Schneidermann didn't turn out to be such a wise smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #3
Thank You Your Honor! Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #4
That's what Rebl2 Jun 2018 #19
Trump's not on the ballot in the mid-terms gratuitous Jun 2018 #5
He is not on the ballots, but the thinking is Perseus Jun 2018 #9
We aren't that lucky. jmowreader Jun 2018 #17
Rats gratuitous Jun 2018 #20
Smirk, scowl, pouty expression, not fooled Jun 2018 #29
Is this why Trump is Wellstone ruled Jun 2018 #6
The most interesting thing about this Perseus Jun 2018 #7
They fake it until they make it. n/t Horse with no Name Jun 2018 #12
Wow. An October Surprise that won't hurt us! WhiteTara Jun 2018 #8
They have a strong defense for the kids. Yonnie3 Jun 2018 #10
its fine to sit a new SCOTUS member but not testify in a lawsuit? Takket Jun 2018 #11
tRump is shopping for a SC Justice robbob Jun 2018 #13
I would have loved to be in the courtroom when trickyguy Jun 2018 #14
"..the justice is system is apolitical by design..." mobeau69 Jun 2018 #15
Imagine thieves asking for a pass malaise Jun 2018 #16
"at least for an ordinary politician" LiberalLovinLug Jun 2018 #18
Now if every judge would laugh at him and his lawyers kacekwl Jun 2018 #21
Glad to hear the judge has a sense of humor! ailsagirl Jun 2018 #22
Lol his dumbass is gonna testify his way right into an emouluments clause impeachment hahaha Volaris Jun 2018 #23
I wonder if Trump even realizes NewJeffCT Jun 2018 #24
And he can't refuse to take the stand in a civil case. dflprincess Jun 2018 #26
Put the trump kids in cages dembotoz Jun 2018 #25
That'd work for me. calimary Jun 2018 #31
Paula Jones case just keeps on giving DeminPennswoods Jun 2018 #27
Probably not a good thing in the long term. Appeals. bitterross Jun 2018 #28
"Charity" scheme to make golf debts go away struggle4progress Jun 2018 #30
Oh Snap Generic Other Jun 2018 #32
This lawsuit will be fun to watch Gothmog Jun 2018 #33
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
3. Well, I guess getting rid of Schneidermann didn't turn out to be such a wise
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 06:57 PM
Jun 2018

move after all, did it? Suck it up, asshole!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. Trump's not on the ballot in the mid-terms
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 07:01 PM
Jun 2018

Shouldn't have any effect on the timing of the trial. Does New York allow cameras in the courtroom? Watching Trump squirm in the witness box, trying to answer questions he should know the answer to, but doesn't. Stammering, stumbling, deflecting, and being brought back to the point by the prosecutor and the judge.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
9. He is not on the ballots, but the thinking is
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 07:27 PM
Jun 2018

that the man-child being in court for fraud should affect the vote for those who support him, at least that is what is expected, although with republicans and evangelists one never knows.

Regarding cameras in the court room? I don't think we will be that lucky to see him lie in front of a judge, which he will do, but I am sure that cameras will not be allowed.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
20. Rats
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 08:36 PM
Jun 2018

We'll always have the transcripts. I hope the court reporters capture each and every "uhhh," "errr," [long pause] and [eye shift].

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Is this why Trump is
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 07:12 PM
Jun 2018

accelerating his take over of the Supreme Court ? Wonder if Kennedy's Kid and Deucthe Bank pop up ? Nance mentioned something Friday about Wire Taps and Fisa Court actions were happening all of last year as well into this year.

Still say,the Agencies will take down the Trump Criminal Syndicate and it is going to get mother ugly fun.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
7. The most interesting thing about this
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 07:25 PM
Jun 2018

is the fact that the trumps claim to be billionaires, but they are still robbing money from a charitable foundation. How do you answer to that? Is it greed? Is it that they really are not billionaires? Is it that they are natural crooks who get high on robbing from anyone?

What a screwed up family.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
8. Wow. An October Surprise that won't hurt us!
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 07:26 PM
Jun 2018

I'm excited what that trial will bring out. I like Barbara Underwood. I love it that the judge laughed.

Yonnie3

(17,444 posts)
10. They have a strong defense for the kids.
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 07:28 PM
Jun 2018

"Charity begins at home."

Of course, it won't work in court.

robbob

(3,531 posts)
13. tRump is shopping for a SC Justice
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 07:58 PM
Jun 2018

who will say Presidents are immune from prosecution, supeonas, and are truly above the law. I don’t think Mitch McConnell has any problem with that.

trickyguy

(769 posts)
14. I would have loved to be in the courtroom when
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 08:02 PM
Jun 2018

Judge Scarpulla actually laughed at this blatently corrupt request.
Carry on in the name of the law.

mobeau69

(11,145 posts)
15. "..the justice is system is apolitical by design..."
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 08:02 PM
Jun 2018

For now, maybe. They are woking to "correct" this.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
18. "at least for an ordinary politician"
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 08:24 PM
Jun 2018

There's the rub

I am continually amazed and appalled at how much shit his deplorables can eat and not get sick.

Its all a finely crafted MO at this point. He has Fox News and RW talk radio all set to be shouting 24/7 about the latest "witch hunt" if and when this goes ahead. Instead of it being an advantage, it will be twisted and used FOR his advantage.

In fact it may just suppress the Democrat vote further, if upon reading the polls during this trial, they see his numbers going up. How much more Trump fatigue can one take? It may seem all so depressingly impossible so why bother, to at least a few.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
23. Lol his dumbass is gonna testify his way right into an emouluments clause impeachment hahaha
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 08:53 PM
Jun 2018

What a tool.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
24. I wonder if Trump even realizes
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 08:54 PM
Jun 2018

that he can't pardon himself, or anybody else, for state level crimes?

He seems to think that his presidential pardon power is all powerful

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
27. Paula Jones case just keeps on giving
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 09:28 PM
Jun 2018

I know those Supreme Court justices thought they were only going to hurt Clinton, but their ruling is the basis for allowing Clifford/Daniels, Zervos and now this case against the Trump Foundation to proceed.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
28. Probably not a good thing in the long term. Appeals.
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 09:29 PM
Jun 2018

If I were 45's lawyer I'd be asking for recusal and making all sorts of noise about the bias of the judge. As we saw in the Masterpiece Bakery case, such minor-seeming actions can have greater consequences.

This is not to say I don't appreciate the judge laughing. I love that the judge laughed.

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
30. "Charity" scheme to make golf debts go away
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 09:35 PM
Jun 2018

BY BESS LEVIN
JUNE 14, 2018 5:02 PM

... York Attorney General Barbara Underwood sued the president and all of his adult children for “persistently illegal conduct” related to the Donald J. Trump Foundation ... Underwood also charges that the foundation, whose board members include Don Jr., Ivanka, and Eric, violated campaign-finance laws by “illegally provid[ing] extensive support” to the then-candidate’s 2016 campaign, despite being explicitly prohibited from “participating or intervening in any political campaign on behalf of a candidate.” E-mails show campaign manager Corey Lewandowski dictating charitable expenditures which you’ll surely be shocked to hear appear dedicated to helping Trump get elected ... Underwood .. has asked that the president be forced to pay at least $2.8 million in restitution and penalties, and be barred from leading any New York nonprofit organizations for 10 years. She also wants each of the Trump kids banned from serving as directors of New York nonprofits for a year ...

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/06/trump-foundation-lawsuit

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
33. This lawsuit will be fun to watch
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 10:58 PM
Jun 2018

I have hopes that this trial will be as amusing as the ACLU/Kobach trial. That soap opera was great

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