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Russian fans display "Heil Hitler" banner at World Cup.... (Original Post) blitzen Jun 2018 OP
I can't shake the feeling that this World Cup Itchinjim Jun 2018 #1
I heard they have been cozying up with other European countries too. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #2
Who has? Tipperary Jun 2018 #5
I heard it on CNN and here is a similar article. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #7
Russian Nazis are, if anything, more absurd than American ones. malthaussen Jun 2018 #3
Thank you. roamer65 Jun 2018 #4
And what's amazing is Igel Jun 2018 #8
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2018 #9
For the record, Russia & Croatia were both busted for fans' Neo Nazi flags at the 2014 Cup too Cal Carpenter Jun 2018 #6
There was plenty of Nazi imagery and adulation when I was there in the 90s. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2018 #10

Itchinjim

(3,085 posts)
1. I can't shake the feeling that this World Cup
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 04:46 PM
Jun 2018

Will be the historical equivalent of the 1936 Berlin Olympics.

BigmanPigman

(51,609 posts)
7. I heard it on CNN and here is a similar article.
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 05:35 PM
Jun 2018

Bannon sees much of Europe as fertile territory for his populist revolution. In March he appeared at the conference of the far-right Front National in France, saying: "Let them call you racist. Wear it as a badge of honor."
He is also close to Nigel Farage, the public face of the Brexit movement and former leader of the UK Independence Party.
Last month, Bannon said: "The working-class, blue-collar workers in the US and the middle class were completely abused by the globalist elite that ran the country for the last 20 or 30 years and Trump's victory was a complete rejection of that."
He made those remarks in Hungary, whose leader, Viktor Orban, he sees as another flag-bearer in this revolution. Orban is "Trump before Trump," Bannon declared. This week Orban said that Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic and Slovakia had agreed to establishing "hot spot" centers to process migrants outside EU borders.
Bannon sees much of Europe as fertile territory for his populist revolution. In March he appeared at the conference of the far-right Front National in France, saying: "Let them call you racist. Wear it as a badge of honor."
He is also close to Nigel Farage, the public face of the Brexit movement and former leader of the UK Independence Party.
Another popular target for Bannon, Salvini, Farage and the rest of the insurgency is the mainstream media. In an interview this year, Bannon called the Financial Times, the BBC, the Wall Street Journal and the Economist "the propaganda department of the globalists."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/23/europe/salvini-bannon-lister-intl/index.html

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
3. Russian Nazis are, if anything, more absurd than American ones.
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 05:04 PM
Jun 2018

Talk about betraying your ancestors.

-- Mal

Igel

(35,320 posts)
8. And what's amazing is
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 05:47 PM
Jun 2018

that they still insist on decrying others who are far from being Nazis as "fashisty". Or "fascists."

When I was learning Spanish words like "embarazada" and English "embarrassed, or French "exite" and English "excited," were called false friends.

At times "fashist" can mean "fascist." Mostly historical references, these days. In most uses, for a while, it meant "anti-socialist" or "anti-Soviet", and these days it just means something vaguely like "they don't like Russia or being controlled by Russia." There were very left-leaning gay Ukrainians condemned as "fashist" because they simply thought the EU's human rights were superior to either Ukraine's laws or Russia's. I think of it as a general term of political and social abuse.

Which is much like how some socialists I knew in the '80s used it. "I work for a church." "Fascist!" They didn't need to know anything else--what kind of church, for example, or what were its views on pretty much anything. And no middle ground. Again, a general term of abuse.

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