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boguspotus

(286 posts)
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 11:11 AM Jun 2018

A Letter of Hope Fron Henry Rollins - I hate "we're fucked" - Great read:

My apologies if this has been posted already, but it really made me feel better and hopeful for the future.

"I hate “we’re fucked.”

I mean, I don’t want to shame anyone who has said it, thought it, or posted it. I have too. But as a philosophy, as a statement of belief, I hate it. Because it means you’ve given up.
We are absolutely NOT fucked.

Things are so bad. This country has taken a turn that I could never have predicted. It is absolutely fascist, nativist, and extremist. It’s every bit as scary as it seems.
But we are not fucked."


[link:https://calvinscanadiancaveofcool.blogspot.com/2018/06/a-letter-of-hope-from-henry-rollins.html?m=1|




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A Letter of Hope Fron Henry Rollins - I hate "we're fucked" - Great read: (Original Post) boguspotus Jun 2018 OP
I dig Rollins. He's had an amazing life filled with adventure. But at this moment Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2018 #1
Can't love this enough! AwakeAtLast Jun 2018 #2
Excellent! The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #3
I hardly ever post here, even though I'm on here every day, but... boguspotus Jun 2018 #4
I love the sentiment! MarvinGardens Jun 2018 #5
How was it? Do you feel empowered? BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #6
Absolutely. MarvinGardens Jun 2018 #21
That is surprising and positive news. BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #22
Great post! Upthevibe Jun 2018 #7
I K and R this, but Ferrets are Cool Jun 2018 #8
If it's stolen, it will be the birth of NY, CA and New England separatism. roamer65 Jun 2018 #14
we are fucked under this system elmac Jun 2018 #9
"...there were people during the HEYDAY of the Third Reich who NEVER said, "We're fucked." LudwigPastorius Jun 2018 #10
Hear, Hear! smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #11
+1. No question it's scary. But we are not fucked. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #12
Putin cheers when people think, say, or post "We are fucked". Please don't make Putin cheer. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #13
No, we are fucked, but... zentrum Jun 2018 #15
So he's betting the future of the country on one man? Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #16
I can't see how you get that from the piece muriel_volestrangler Jun 2018 #17
Oh...I rushed through it, apparently. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #20
It was not written by Rollins. scarletwoman Jun 2018 #18
It was not Rollins Aloysiuswilderburr Jul 2018 #24
Thank you for showing up here! scarletwoman Jul 2018 #27
He not busy being born is busy dying struggle4progress Jun 2018 #19
Written by Will Stenberg. It's in the comments. But awesome call to arms. n/t Beartracks Jul 2018 #23
It's a good essay, but Rollins didn't write it. yardwork Jul 2018 #25
It's pretty messed up that solara Jul 2018 #26

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
1. I dig Rollins. He's had an amazing life filled with adventure. But at this moment
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 11:17 AM
Jun 2018

my optimism is all but gone.

boguspotus

(286 posts)
4. I hardly ever post here, even though I'm on here every day, but...
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 12:26 PM
Jun 2018

With so many people feeling down and defeated, folks really need to read this - definitely worth it!

MarvinGardens

(779 posts)
5. I love the sentiment!
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 12:37 PM
Jun 2018

I just went to one of today's protests. As long as we are willing to continue to speak out, resist, and vote, we are not fucked.

BigmanPigman

(51,610 posts)
6. How was it? Do you feel empowered?
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 01:01 PM
Jun 2018

I always do after a rally. I wish Rollins would speak at a rally since he is so good with the spoken word.

MarvinGardens

(779 posts)
21. Absolutely.
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 10:48 PM
Jun 2018

This was in Lawrenceville, GA, county seat of Gwinnett County. I've been to some down in Atlanta, and the difference I noticed this time was many of the signs had Christian themes, Jesus quotes like "what so ever you did for the least of these, you did for me." No counterprotesters were present. I'm not religious, but lots of Christians are pissed off by the Trump policies too. They are on our side!

Barack Obama said in his farewell address that he truly believed we will be okay. I think we will.

Upthevibe

(8,053 posts)
7. Great post!
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 01:04 PM
Jun 2018

I'll be sending this around. We're on the bus now on the way to the march. Thank you for posting!

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
8. I K and R this, but
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 01:04 PM
Jun 2018

it sure seems as though we are fucked. And if November is stolen from us, the die will be cast.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
9. we are fucked under this system
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 01:06 PM
Jun 2018

and it is up to us to change it. We must all vote but, don't expect voting to get us out of this mess, I expect the fascists will use all the 16' tricks plus putin again so be prepared.

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
10. "...there were people during the HEYDAY of the Third Reich who NEVER said, "We're fucked."
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 01:12 PM
Jun 2018
They said, “We’re in a fight.” And you know what’s interesting? Nazi Germany went from the worst regime in the world to a liberal democracy within a lifetime.


All it took was the Allies destroying their country and killing about 8 million of them to do it. The Germans who resisted from inside were brave and noble, but they weren't the ones who turned the tide of Nazism.

Oh...and, the rest of the world was able to accomplish this because Germany didn't have a nuclear arsenal that could wipe out a country with the push of a button...like we do.

But yeah, definitely vote like your life depends on it, because it does.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
15. No, we are fucked, but...
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 01:32 PM
Jun 2018

…one fights anyway. From principal. From one's morals and lifelong values. Even with no hope.

Telling the truth about how dire the situation is, is essential.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
16. So he's betting the future of the country on one man?
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 01:57 PM
Jun 2018

Mueller?

That's not a winning hand, IMO. Mueller is not going to ride in on a white horse & save the country from Putin and foreign criminals and the criminal in the White House. And Congress is not. And the DOJ is not.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
17. I can't see how you get that from the piece
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 02:23 PM
Jun 2018

He says pretty much the exact opposite:

I have a high regard for Mueller and I think his investigation will have some influence. But don’t wait on him to save us. He can’t. And don’t wait on impeachment. I would support it fervently, but it is nothing to bank on. And especially don't assume Trump can't win again. He absolutely can. Our best bet - better, even, than all of our protests and actions - is actually voting.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
20. Oh...I rushed through it, apparently.
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 07:50 PM
Jun 2018


But if his answer is voting, I'm afraid that may not be enough. Because of Russia. And because of Republican history of violating the sanctity of fairness at the polls...shortening hours, shortening early voting windows, closing polling places, "losing" absentee ballots, purging voter rolls.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
18. It was not written by Rollins.
Sat Jun 30, 2018, 05:04 PM
Jun 2018

Scroll down through the comments at the bottom of the page at the link and you'll find this:

The only trouble is..Rollins did NOT write this..Will Stenberg did: https://www.facebook.com/wstenberg?hc_location=ufi

I'm not a member of facebook, so I can't access the Stenberg page, but I hope that someone else who's on facebook can follow the link and confirm.
24. It was not Rollins
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 09:00 AM
Jul 2018

I'm a personal friend of Will and although he's amused at the confusion, the words are his and not those of Henry Rollins. He's glad to have generated some discussion but has been a bit caught off guard as he'd have maybe thought things out in more detail if he knew he'd wind up with such a wide audience!

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
27. Thank you for showing up here!
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 11:56 AM
Jul 2018

Congratulations are clearly due to Will, for having written a piece that has made such an impression on so many!

solara

(3,836 posts)
26. It's pretty messed up that
Sun Jul 1, 2018, 10:10 AM
Jul 2018

Calvin's Canadian Cave Of Cool Manifesto posted this piece as "A Letter of Hope From Henry Rollins" How is that NOT misleading? I think the letter is excellent and I admire Will Stenberg, the person who actually wrote it. https://www.facebook.com/wstenberg

Recently, I have begun to feel somewhat hopeless & actually physically ill in the face of the constant barrage of PINO trump's smirking face & mindless voice & obscene lies. But this piece let some Light in again, so I am grateful to read it and to have access to it.

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