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we can do it
(12,189 posts)Gothmog
(145,321 posts)Cha
(297,322 posts)the only ones who think stein's LIES should be shamed and they should be held accountable for enabling the Russians to Rig trump in.
kcr
(15,317 posts)Fucking woosh indeed.
Blues Heron
(5,938 posts)Is quite simply the most important and pressing thing we can do right now, two years after her run. lol
What will you tell your Grandchildren? lol
The time has finally come! lol
Cha
(297,322 posts)millions of $$$$.. she and her Lying buddy Sarandon will be out there Lying their damn heads off again.
Lots of People are on to their shite and I'm grateful.
Link to tweet
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SS not only did nothing to stop trump she LIED to help get him Rigged in.
Link to tweet
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Man I really hope Mueller finds her campaign was in violation of finance laws...
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)I thought we were supposed to reach out. But apparently that's not good enough without a heaping dollop of ads-kissing.
NY_20th
(1,028 posts)With all of the posts stressing to reach out to them, there doesn't seem to be an audience here to reach out to.
Perhaps DU isn't the place for some do their outreach and sympathy threads for this demographic, yet I've seen so many in the past few days.
Maybe those who want to reach out to this type of voter should spend their time doing so someplace else.
Maybe they can go knock on doors to find them, because looking for them here is a waste of everyone's time.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)So crickets should be expected.
leftstreet
(36,109 posts)Gothmog
(145,321 posts)If you voted for Stein, you should not be posting on this board
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)As in Trump/Russian. The info many on the left got manipulated them and some succumbed to it. Don't think you're immune to this kind of manipulation, because you're not. Nobody is.
And yes, I voted for Hilary, as did just about everyone here because the atmosphere was made so toxic for Bernie supporters during the primaries. In fact, most Duers who left for JPR did so in reaction to the vicious piling on from Hilary supporters, who themselves were possibly influenced by anti-Bernie memes from the same sources. Once lured to JPR, the Trussian manipulation began in earnest. The vast majority would never have left, much less voted for anyone but Hillary. without the nastiness afforded them here.
It's time to can it because it's beginning to look like the same thing is happening now. Trying to split Duer's won't help Dems gain votes in the midterms.
NY_20th
(1,028 posts)It's just not possible.
I'm giving an opening for those who didn't vote for Hillary, but would like to join the Democratic Party in stopping this atrocity.
There have been several threads recently asking that we reach out to these voters. But where are such voters? Certainly not here.
So why is there such a demand to reach out to such voters, here?
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)No one who was intelligent bought the pizzagate theory. Trump supporters and idiots who post on JPR loved it. JPR posters are so full of hate that they will believe anything
Cha
(297,322 posts)still_one
(92,219 posts)these so-called progressives who went to JPR, including those who were not only more than willing to use the "c" word against her, and every other vile lie and distortion against her, and defended calling her that.
That so-called "vast" majority that you refer to who would have supposedly never left, left because they proudly declared they would NEVER for Hillary in the GE. They were selfish, self-centered, distrupters, who have NO REMORSE OR REGRET that they didn't vote for Hillary.
Don't try to con people with your revisionist history, because it is bullshit, and those same wonderful so-called JPR progressives did the same thing with President Obama, calling him a "POS used car salesman, and every other foul name".
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1280104210
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)still_one
(92,219 posts)Cha
(297,322 posts)they can't handle it.
I've never seen such a bunch fiction that clearly never happened.
So many fires to put out!
brer cat
(24,577 posts)Thanks, still_one. Unfortunately, they ran off a lot of good liberals here before they left.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Cha
(297,322 posts)What a bunch of revisionist history.
Mahalo, Jackie
George II
(67,782 posts)Have you read the stuff over there?
Cha
(297,322 posts)malign the Democratic Candidate with hateful brainwashed garbage.
Thanks George
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Check how many of the JPR asshats still have live accounts at DU, but are inactive because "Has not agreed to the Terms of Service"
And DU is a better place without them.
Sid
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)then shat all over Hillary during the primary. And when it was clear their time for flinging poo all over DU had come to an end, they took their shit flinging somewhere else.
Sid
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)I will never forget.
Cha
(297,322 posts)commentary on the shite Flingers.
And, of course the jprs are Whining that they're the victims in all of this... I wouldn't expect anything more out of them.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)The idiots who left DU for JPR were also people who hated President Obama. JPR types were never really members of the Democratic party
Cha
(297,322 posts)Disinfectant.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)about this:
You voted for Hillary like "just about everyone here" because...people hurt Bernie supporters' feelings? Forgive me, but isn't that a little--well--weird?
Cha
(297,322 posts)the rest of the gaslighting.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)JPR was started by longtime DUers, so it felt safe. It turned into prime hunting grounds for very effective Russian trolls who managed to turn a lot of aggrieved former DUers away from possibly voting for Hillary that November.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)Even now, these idiots are pushing that silly DNC fraud lawsuit. You do know that there are members of JPR who are evidently named plaintiffs in that silly lawsuit. That lawsuit is so stupid that it is funny. For example donors are not consumers under the District of Columbia deceptive trade practices act.
The people who left DU for JPR were not very bright and so were easy marks for Russian fake news. I still go look at that site to laugh and see what putin is pushing this week
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)they couldn't think for themselves, or do actual research, on who to vote for. It was all about their poor little aggrieved feelings.
How aggrieved are they NOW that children are being snatched from their parents, women's reproductive rights are at risk, health care is threatened, and voting rights are at risk?
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)And no, only a very naive person would have fallen for the nonsense being passed around on social media by Russians.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)It was very different from Facebook memes and not posts. I stopped dropping in when it became virulently anti Hillary because I saw the fascist in Trump from day one and was committed to voting for her to stop him.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)The trolling at JPR was laughable at best. JPR posters are not very bright and so fell for pizzagate. No one who is intelligent could fall for pizzagate. Even now, the idiots on JPR are still pushing that moronic DNC fraud lawsuit because a number of these posters are class members.
According to JPR, Clinton was suppose to die before the Nov. 2016 election. These idiots really believe this and pizzagate. Only idiots would buy that crap
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)JPR began in late winter -early spring. The trolling started out very sophisticated. By pizzagate, in the fall,too many had gotten onto the crazy train.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)The Russian trolling operations were not sophisticated and only idiots fell for it. The JRP idiots were influenced because they were all all idiots. The posters who left DU for JPR were mainly the less intelligent DU posters which explains why these posters were easily fooled.
Only an idiot would buy the pizzagate story which is why after a while the admis at JPR were so embarassed that they eventually ban that particular Russian fake story
There is a ton of hatred and stupidity still evidenced on the JPR site. Hate and stupidity are evidently requirements to post on that site. There is a disgusting picture on the greatest page of that site that I will not post because it is too stupid.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)I am having a hard time here understanding. You only voted for Hill because the atmosphere was made so toxic for Bernie supporters during the primaries.
What?
The toxicity was toward Hill not Bern...more revisionist history.
I have to call this as revisionist history. The vicious piling on was not the Hill supporters. What exactly were the anti Bernie memes that you speak of? So you are telling me all those poor souls went and joined a hate site that promoted everything from pizza gate, to her ill with a deadly disease and called her the c word with the ADMINS permission.From what I read there they gleefully trash her.
You were "Lured" to JPR? How so?
Aaaah the Trussians manipulated y'all when ya got there. Okie dokey. Let me see if I get this straight. Please correct me if I am wrong.
They lured you to join JPR? Must have been some great bait they put on that hook to lure so many. And you say you went there because people were nasty to you all and ya wouda coulda shoulda voted for Hill otherwise but for the nastiness here.
OMFG. You never once thought about the Supreme Court? You never once thought about minority rights? You never once thought about the environment? You never once thought about our first amendment rights. You never once thought of all our children's futures? Never once...
The vast majority would never have left, much less voted for anyone but Hillary. without the nastiness afforded them here.
Please say it ain't so though I know it is.
Reason not to vote in the most important election in our lifetime...."They hurt my fee fees"
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)But not only was there rampant Bernie hatred here, you happened to be part of it. I know it was motivated by your dedication to Hillary, but it's true. It's also true that a few hundred Bernie supporters felt driven off. The Trussians took advantage of people's avid support of each candidate and helped to drive a normal primary divide into a split to the bone.
I never left DU and am much too committed a Democrat to vote for anyone else in the General. But I did frequent JPR early on and saw what was happening so I left. I didn't fall for the divide and conquer technique that time, but I know it could happen to me too, even though I watch out for it.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)I was part of i.? lollollol. I was driven off this board by bros and only got back thanks to Skinner.
betsuni
(25,538 posts)Another ridiculous conspiracy theory. Typical.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)This whole thread is just cra!
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)I live in the real world. It takes a great deal of work in the real world to be a delegate to a national convention. Under DNC rules, each candidate has absolute approval rights over their delegates and all campaigns carefully vet their delegates. I was carefully vetted by the Clinton campaign. The Sanders campaign used one criteria to vet delegates. They had to hate Hillary Clinton. At the Texas State Democratic Convention in 2016, a delegate was removed and replaced by the Sanders campaign because that delegate would not state that they hated Clinton (that poor kid was a guest of the Texas Democratic Party to the National Convention to make up for the shabby treatment by the Sanders campaign). There was a ton of poor conduct at the convention including a number of sanders delegates yelling obscenities at my child (who was my guest) and calling her the C-word for not agreeing to get me to change my vote.
There was a planned stunt by the sanders delegates at the National Convention to boo Congressman John Lewis. I was warned of this stunt 20 or 30 minutes in advance by my whip. Sanders evidently knew of this stunt and refused to stop it. Again candidates should be responsible for the bad conduct of their delegates. Sanders did nothing to control his delegates and that hurt the convention and the campaign. I also was the convention breakfast where jpr types called on the Texas delegation to condemn Hillary Clinton and vote for sanders
I saw sanders delegates at the national convention who were so full of hate that it was not funny. Again, the real world is a nice place. I have to deal with JPR types in the real world but people are not ignoring them.
betsuni
(25,538 posts)Should be "by." Anybody can check the archives. It's history.
JPR is like a medieval village where people get hysterical over solar eclipses and werewolves. Most of the time links they provide don't even back up their claims. I think they don't bother reading them. DUers read. Big difference.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)It didn't start out toxic, but was tipped into fantasyland in a couple of months. Nobody there now but the trolls.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)The local Our Revolution group in my county are clearly JPR types. These idiots campaigned against a candidate because he was Asian and had a funny first name. http://www.indoamerican-news.com/local-democrats-infighting-attempts-to-smear-sri-kulkarni/
But Beaton, who is backing candidate Steve Brown in the primary, is throwing out all sorts of minor issues to sideline Kulkarnis bid. He has challenged Kulkarnis full name, his residency in the district, his voting record and even his registration application saying he wanted to run in Massachusetts.
Inspite of these diversions, the Indian American community as well as the rest of the South And East Asian communities are staunchly behind Kulkarni and they have shown it by the sheer numbers who have come to his events and are donating funds to his campaign, sensing a chance to have an Asian in Congress from the Metroplex. They came together last night, Tuesday, February 20, at Madras Pavlion to rally behind Kulkarni and push back against these charges.
Encouraged, Kulkarni is counting on their support. Were pushing back against this stigmatization and slander, Kulkarni said. The Asian communities need to come out and vote to get us over the top in the primary.
From another article http://www.indiawest.com/news/global_indian/texas-congressional-candidate-sri-kulkarni-acknowledges-teen-drug-arrest-youthful/article_54a39be6-1e55-11e8-8db1-6f520552146f.html
The letter suggested that Kulkarni, whose full first name is Srinivas, is running under an assumed name and that he had previously registered with the Federal Election Commission to run for a congressional seat in Massachusetts.,,,,
Fort Bend County's past Democratic chair, Don Bankston, a member of the party's state executive committee, said the attack on Kulkarni is off base and potentially slanderous, according to the report.
The head of the Our Revolution group told voters that Sri is "not one of us" and we do not want "one of them on the ballot." As noted above, these Our Revolution attacks failed. BTW, I had fun at the state Convention last weekend. Sri spoke to the Jewish Caucus and started his presentation in Hebrew.
I have had my share of exposure to JPR types. I am tired of these idiots.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)There are a number of threads on the greatest page of that site that are disgusting. These idiots hate Hillary Clinton, people who voted for Hillary Clinton and people who post on this website (we are called site SV by these morons). I am not going to link to this hate site but go read the hate filled threads on the greatest page
For example this post is the top post on that hate site's greatest page
F##K EVERYONE who voted for Hillary Clinton.
I dont care why you voted for her. I dont care if you loved the fact that she was an oligarch or liked her hideous yelling voice or her laughing about mass murder or justified her vote even though she was less liberal than Goldwater or she somehow inspired you (what the hell is up with that anyway are you 8 years old who believes that being married to a mediocre President somehow makes YOU qualified?). Unless you were too ill or otherwise physically incapable of voting or your vote was suppressed, fuck everyone who voted for the useless candidate who already LOST once and couldnt win the second time without blatantly STEALING the nomination
I edited the f-word out.
Here is another gem
Hey feckless resistance cunts, you dont own my mind, body, soul, or vote. Until you accept that, and make meaningful adjustments to inspire people to vote for your platform and candidates, YOU are the ones f##king the world with your choices.
We are not going to reason with these hate mongers.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)Gothmog
(145,321 posts)The posters on JPR are mainly hate mongers whose hatred for Clinton has always been sad. I engaged in some really fun threads with a couple of JPR idiots on the issue of whether Hillary Clinton broke the law on the e-mails. These JPR posters are both no lawyers who were totally ignorant of the law but they did some very long threads on why Hillary had to be put into jail immediately without a trial. Non-lawyers are really fun to laugh at when then try to understand legal concepts and these JPR posters were so full of hate that it was not even funny.
The JPR site is full of Russian trolls and former posters on this board who are so full of hate that it is sad. The two JPR non-lawyer idiots were convinced that Clinton needed to be in prison without the benefit of a trial because of their "legal" reasoning. These idiots gave the lawyers on this board a great deal of material to laugh at.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Your narrative is Bullshit.
The FBI and NSA has already released a report that the Russians trolled on line in favor of Trump and Sanders. Not AGAINST Sanders. You coming here and trying to blame them for Anti-Sanders propaganda is just more propaganda. They were I the tank for him.
Dont alert on me. This is what the report said. Not saying Bernie was aware of it. But those are the facts. Unless you consider the report from the NSA fake news.
And the poor souls...lured to JPR. Where they are free to revel in their misogyny and proTrump bullshit and are free to call Hillary the C-word.
I was new here. And the speed with which Hillary supporter were alerted on was, well lets say suspicious in hindsight. And then the crash on Election Day.
Bernie supporters looking for sympathy here need to look hard. Cause he was bolstered by Putin. Willing or not.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)The Russotrumpian methodology was twofold. First Feed Hillary's most avid supporters ugly stories about Bernie to ensure they're angry at Bernie's supporters. At the same time, feed anti Hillary stories to the Bernie folks to drive the wedge between them deeper. It was all helped along by Trussians fanning the flames on both sides. The result? Fewer voted for Hillary.
Cha
(297,322 posts)it's because they Always have to be the Victims/Bullies
Gulf Coast told you straight up what happened. What he wrote are the FACTS and the TRUTH.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)You did it again. Trying to paint Bernie as a victim of Russian meddling along with Clinton.
That is a false narrative. The Russian were not try to harm Bernie. The Intelligence agencys were clear...the Russian were planting false stories and starting Rumors to help Bernie and harm Hillary. Some here on DU ate it up like a free lunch. Most of them are gone.
We all saw it and see it starting again.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)voted happily for Hillary as their second choice.
What we're talking about are the OTHER 8+% of B Sanders voters. The hostiles, the anti-Democrats, whose favorite delusions and lies were merely amplified by the Russians.
THAT's their technique: To identify character flaws and weaknesses that need divisions and feed them.
It's still happening, of course. Subtract the majority who wanted Hillary in the primary, plus the 90% of Sanders voters who joined them, as well as the conservative spoilers who voted Sanders to defeat Democrats, and we're left with a single-digit group too small to affect the party -- on their own.
As a tool for Republican, conservative media, and Russian propaganda, though, hostile dissidents can be used to hurt the Democratic Party, and that's the problem. More so when they know it and accept the assistance. Their lying message of crooked Democrats did not originate with them, but with the right; they and the Russians piggybacked on it though.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Thank you.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)Again, I was a delegate to the national convention. I was warned by my whip that the Sanders delegation had a planned attack on Congressman John Lewis. This was evidently a long planned event because my whip told me about it 20 to 30 minutes before it happen and I was later told that sanders knew of this stunt and took no steps to stop it.
The idiots at JPR were thrilled at this attack. https://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/hey-john-lewis-karmas-a-mf-aint-it/
When you had the chance to get behind a true progressive in the primaries, you pretended you had no idea who he was. Not only that, you did so in a press conference in order to show your allegiance to Hillary bring them to heel Clinton. Yep. You sold your legacy of police beatings and marches for civil rights with MLK to align yourself with the biggest corporate sellout loser candidate the dems have ever run. Why would you have done such a thing? people may wonder. Well, Im sure it has nothing to do with attaining more power in an already corrupt system that you dont seem to have a problem with now that youre a part of it. So when you take to the stage and claim that Trump isnt a legitimate president, not only are you wrong, youre also to blame for his having been elected in the first place. You and every other sellout in the party can all go fuck yourselves. And please do so in a place thats far away from any levers of power.
NanceGreg is one of my favorite posters on this board. Nance collected some of the comments from that JPR thread https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028476265
You sold your legacy of police beatings and marches for civil rights with MLK to align yourself with the biggest corporate sellout loser candidate the dems have ever run. So when you take to the stage and claim that Trump isnt a legitimate president, not only are you wrong, youre also to blame for his having been elected in the first place.
He went from Civil Rights Icon to Civil Rights Sell-out. Despicable.
He actively worked to take down the people's candidate and helped sink his the campaign of a fellow civil rights champion. His support of $hillary who was illegitimate in so many ways, greatly weakens his charges against Trump. Lewis helped sink the most legitimate candidate we have had in my lifetime. His opinion on who is legitimate or not does not move me.
Well, he supported a white supremacist and a white supremacist got elected. So I dunno what his problem would be.
How's his Super Delegate shit working for him now?? And his low life arm twisting oh yeah he is throwing his temper tantrum now!! tough shit!!
Fuck him and fuck his civil rights cred. You have no street cred now, Mr. Lewis. You could have been MLKs Siamese twin, but that means jack shit now. You sell out. Hillary ass kisser. Fuck off and cry.
Also on the JPR homefront: Trump is the legitimately-elected pOTUS, and all stories about his Russian ties are fake news. The Establishment is trying to steal his presidency away from him because they were planning a war with Russia, and the peace-loving Trump - as always mindful of the welfare of others - is standing in their way by pursuing a meaningful friendship with Putin.
Amazed at how the (alleged) True Progressives on JPR have so quickly morphed into Trumpettes? You shouldnt be. Thats what happens when a site full of malleable malcontents is overrun with RWers, and are willing to swallow any swill emanating from anti-Dem sources.
JPR takes the enemy of my enemy is my friend idiocy to a whole new level. They are now on-board with Mr. Tangerine Man, based solely on the fact that he saved them from the horrors that a Hillary presidency would have brought about like appointing billionaire, Goldman-Sachs-type corporatists to her Cabinet. (So glad we dodged THAT bullet!)
So beware of Trumpettes wearing JPR's version of True Progressive clothing. They were RWers (or RW wannabees) all along or sadder still, mindless sheep willing to follow the Judas Goat without hesitation, while pretending to be independent "thinkers" immune to being led by the nose to the slaughterhouse.
JPR posters are sick and sad people. Attacks on DU had nothing with these idiots leaving. JPR posters on this thread are so full with hate that they had to attack a national treasure like Congressman John Lewis.
BTW, Congressman Lewis was busy today
Link to tweet
Claiming that JPR posters are nice or innocent persons whose feelings were hurt on DU is a false claim. Russia had nothing to do with the underlying sickness of JPR posters
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)They came here that way and left that way.
The booing congressman Lewis was a low for the party.
I can not and will not forgive or look to make peace with that kind of person. And Never for get that they were delegates at the Democratic National Convention. And never forget who they supported. And still support.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)You are, of course, correct about its current state. What I have been saying is that the early group of DUers who first posted on JPR were self isolated, which made them vulnerable to propaganda -- first on a very sophisticated level, then rapidly becoming increasingly crude. By the time of the 2016 election, the trolling was at the pizzagate level of insanity.
I'm not talking about anything after winter 2016, when the attacks on DU from both Hillary and Bernie sides hit a level of toxicity that many old timers on both sides were banned. Each side was convinced that the other side hated and despised their candidate. That drove many Bernie supporters at DU away -- to the brand new JPR site, set up by DUers and named for a DUer of blessed memory, the late Jackpine Radical.
Because of the mass movement, there was a high level of trust at first -- everyone knew everyone else because -- again at first -- everyone there came from DU. That level of trust made it easy for the odd troll (at first) and a few apparent sleeper agents, to insert sophisticated, seemingly documented anti-Hillary propaganda, and have much of it accepted. People were led down a path very few of them would have taken if they weren't isolated at a site where the human propensity to believe negative stories about their tribe's (or sub-tribe's) opponent(s) could so easily take hold.
That's my last attempt to make my opinion clear.
Cha
(297,322 posts)you have no clue what the JPR IDIOTS are about.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)I have followed JPR since its formation. The JPR founders were not changed by Russian propaganda. That is not how propaganda works in the real world. These founders were filled with hatred which colored their views and made it easy for them to buy in to Russian Fake news. But Russia had nothing to do with the threads posted by these posters on DU wanted Hillary Clinton put into prison without a trial due to her e-mails. Several early members of JPR pushed this concept on a large number of threads on DU. I enjoyed these threads in that the JPR posters were non lawyers and made complete asses of themselves on these threads. As a lawyer, I found these threads to be so dumb that these threads were funny.
Russian fake news would not explain why the idiots on JPR hate Congressman John Lewis and why they attacked him at every opportunity. There is still anger on that board and on twittter towards any African Americans who refused to support sanders. Russia had nothing to do with the hatred on that board for a legend and hero like Congressman John Lewis.
Hatred and irrationality explains the stupidity on JPR. There is a ton of Russia material on that site and some real Russian trolls are active. However, this type of propaganda only works if there was hatred to play on. Hatred and stupidity explains the posts on JPR and why Russia is so popular over there. BTW, Assange is evidently still ha hero over there as is Putin.
You are entitled to your own opinion but you are not entitled to your own facts. I have been observing JPR for a long time and I strong disagree with your claims. The facts do not support your claims
betsuni
(25,538 posts)All there in the archives. The call was coming from inside the house.
Cha
(297,322 posts)time and your summary of a few things that went down is exactly right.
Cha
(297,322 posts)betsuni is Exactly right. You need to stop trying to rewrite history. It's not working.
It's all catalogued on DU.
ms liberty
(8,580 posts)And the attacks on you are coming from some of those you've described, but of course they deny it. And the op? Signed up on June 2.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Speak for yourself, but I make up my own mind on who to support.
Cha
(297,322 posts)would be anyone who checked in
Bettie
(16,110 posts)there are many people who didn't vote or voted third party on here.
OK, there may be a few trolls lurking, but not even a scant handful of actual people.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)Instead of focusing on this, there's a new generation ready to head to the polls.
Let's focus on Gen Z voters (born after 1996). They found their issue, now let's get them active.
NY_20th
(1,028 posts)I'm spending my efforts and time on unregistered voters who for whatever reason haven't participated in voting.
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)But I haven't met a single Stein voter in my day to day life. Hell, I've never encountered someone outside of internet forums who is even aware of Stein's existence.
Blues Heron
(5,938 posts)R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Multiple threads about "unity", ahem.
lark
(23,105 posts)Susan Sarandon is a prime example. These people are almost as idiotic as the true drumpf believers and drumpf and russia wouldn't have been able to steal the election without their stupid assistance every step of the way. To this day, I have not seen one of them admit the glaring truth of their treachery to our country and the result it caused.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)So you fail.
NY_20th
(1,028 posts)please see my response, here
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10804059
NY_20th
(1,028 posts)So, with that in mind, I'm self deleting this thread.
For transparency, this was my thread topic:
Stein voters, 3rd party voters and non voters
check in here if you are willing to help us gain back control and fix the Trump atrocity.