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lapfog_1

(29,226 posts)
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:07 PM Jun 2018

I absolutely can't stand Kornacki

and his wild gesticulations... he looks like a puppet in a Punch and Judy show where the puppeteer has had a bit too much of the festival beer.

And he is always telling us how dark things look for Democrats. Always.

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I absolutely can't stand Kornacki (Original Post) lapfog_1 Jun 2018 OP
Me either. He always seems to be hyped up on Red Bull The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #1
I totally agree. Funtatlaguy Jun 2018 #2
I mean qazplm135 Jun 2018 #3
I see no fracture in our party. murielm99 Jun 2018 #6
Geez I wish you could lay off the old white people crap. I am an an old white person. I have worked wasupaloopa Jun 2018 #8
me too. lapfog_1 Jun 2018 #10
I'm a straight white femail leftynyc Jun 2018 #14
I defended nixon when I was in first year of high school lapfog_1 Jun 2018 #17
I had a congressman who leftynyc Jun 2018 #23
Plus about a thousand Hekate Jun 2018 #32
ok qazplm135 Jul 2018 #45
Not true wasupaloopa Jul 2018 #46
yes true qazplm135 Jul 2018 #47
Could you cool it with the "old white people" nonsense. redstatebluegirl Jun 2018 #12
Yeah Cosmocat Jun 2018 #21
I don't think Toobin was joyful about what's going to happen to the Supreme Court. N/T lapucelle Jun 2018 #31
Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #33
I'm an old white person and I've been a raving liberal since the Nixon days. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #22
Can't/won't give Kornacki or MontanaMama Jun 2018 #4
I was besieged for saying that about Tur the other day redstateblues Jun 2018 #18
+1 MontanaMama Jun 2018 #27
He always roots for the worse for Dems then is shocked that a Dem flips a seat or two. wasupaloopa Jun 2018 #5
Agreed. He always takes a little too much glee in Dem defeats. brush Jun 2018 #7
I had to change the station just now. Raine1967 Jun 2018 #9
XM sure works for me. Wellstone ruled Jun 2018 #11
Details? redstateblues Jun 2018 #35
Tweety gave the kid a lesson in Political History Wellstone ruled Jun 2018 #36
Kornacki is a good guy, I think Tweety unfairly attacked him radius777 Jun 2018 #43
He's the worst - yesterday it was either him or Wolf. TV off redstateblues Jun 2018 #13
Relatable oberliner Jun 2018 #24
SK must have a personality disorder Hawaii Hiker Jun 2018 #15
He really tries too hard to make something "dramatic" lapfog_1 Jun 2018 #19
He's exhausting. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #16
He's just a Republican tool. world wide wally Jun 2018 #20
I was going to write a similar post. Control-Z Jun 2018 #25
i like him.. hes hyper wonky. samnsara Jun 2018 #26
He is an irritating moron Pachamama Jun 2018 #28
K&R. I cannot abide the man. COLGATE4 Jun 2018 #29
Eww.... and every show those beige pants. SummerSnow Jun 2018 #30
Khakis are a "uniform" for men of the younger gens radius777 Jun 2018 #44
I agree, but after the last 24 hours, it doesn't look that bright ! OnDoutside Jun 2018 #34
i don't like him either. i use the mute button now. trueblue2007 Jun 2018 #37
Who makes one watch him? Sneederbunk Jun 2018 #38
I can't watch the guy. kstewart33 Jun 2018 #39
I can't stand him either n/t dajoki Jun 2018 #40
We don't Meowmee Jun 2018 #41
He came on to fill in for someone today. LiberalFighter Jun 2018 #42

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
1. Me either. He always seems to be hyped up on Red Bull
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:09 PM
Jun 2018

with a soupçon of meth. And his political biases always seem to come out while he's having one of his episodes.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
3. I mean
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:11 PM
Jun 2018

it's looking pretty freaking dark right now.

We aren't likely to win the Senate this time around, and unless we can solve the fracture in our party, Trump's going to win again in 2020.

Nothing lasts forever and the pendulum swings but right now, it's a very powerful last gasp of old white people.

murielm99

(30,765 posts)
6. I see no fracture in our party.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:14 PM
Jun 2018

I am out here on the ground working. There are many new grassroots organizations. They are growing and learning about practical politics. They are canvassing and learning how to work with central committees. They are registering people to vote and running for office themselves.

Even if we do not win everything we want in November, we will make gains. Stop pearl clutching and GOTV.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
8. Geez I wish you could lay off the old white people crap. I am an an old white person. I have worked
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:16 PM
Jun 2018

for progressive causes all my life. Try to narrow the population you want to slander, be more specific.

lapfog_1

(29,226 posts)
10. me too.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:21 PM
Jun 2018

old white straight male... sometimes I feel like there are people here that want me to be a republican.

Not going to happen.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
14. I'm a straight white femail
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:25 PM
Jun 2018

in my late 50s and have been called a republican many times. Fuck em, I've been fighting for progressive causes for longer than many of them have been alive.

lapfog_1

(29,226 posts)
17. I defended nixon when I was in first year of high school
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:30 PM
Jun 2018

and that was the last time I ever thought anything good about a republican.

I was young and my family were all republicans.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
23. I had a congressman who
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:51 PM
Jun 2018

was a republican - this was when I first moved to the county just north of the city I've lived in for 26 years. He was pro choice, pro environment, pro gun control. I really didn't have a problem with him and voted for him (he was very popular and usually ran unopposed) until he retired and Nita Lowey has gotten my vote since then.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
47. yes true
Sun Jul 8, 2018, 09:26 PM
Jul 2018

like objectively, statistically true. Older white people over 65.

ALL people over 65 voted for Trump 53-45 over Hillary.

I'm guessing it's not too much of a limb to assume:

1. A majority of voters over 65 are White
2. A LARGE majority of minority voters over 65 didn't vote for Trump
3. Thus, the margin of strictly White voters over 65 was probably significantly larger (at least double digits, if not 15+ percent).

So, tell me where my numbers or assumptions are off please.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
12. Could you cool it with the "old white people" nonsense.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:22 PM
Jun 2018

When I showed up to canvass before our primary it was all "old white people" doing the work. You won't win an election pushing us to the curb.

Cosmocat

(14,574 posts)
21. Yeah
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:33 PM
Jun 2018

it is ...

Hate that scumbags like Kornacki and Toobin was so joyous about it, but they aren't wrong.

Response to lapucelle (Reply #31)

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
22. I'm an old white person and I've been a raving liberal since the Nixon days.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:37 PM
Jun 2018

And I've been protesting this kind of shit since Vietnam. So lay off the old people. All the recent demonstrations, marches and other progressive gatherings I've been to in the last few years have been heavily populated by us old people while the kids seem to be elsewhere.

MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)
4. Can't/won't give Kornacki or
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:14 PM
Jun 2018

Chuckie Todd a moment of my time. Starting to feel the same about Katy Tur too.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
9. I had to change the station just now.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:20 PM
Jun 2018

I listen via TuneIn radio and even without his gesticulations I could not listen to his doom and gloom.

I think we all know how troublesome this is, I just don't need to be listening to someone who wants to make us ull feel even worse --

That's not news.

Turned on my local radio news station. I'm in the DC region and sometimes I find the coverage a little less hyperbolic and more in tune with the actual reality on the ground.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
43. Kornacki is a good guy, I think Tweety unfairly attacked him
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 06:19 PM
Jun 2018

in a way that was inappopriate, even for the combative Tweety, who I generally like.

Kornacki is the typical both siderist journalist like Todd, Turr, Hunt - he was just stating the reality that Dems lack the votes in the Senate, especially with DINOs like Manchin and Heitkamp likely to vote for any nominee Trump puts up.

Kornacki was simply asking Tweety what mechanism could Dems use, and Tweety lost his shit, and even attacked that other guy who was a SCOTUS expert, who knows what he's talking about.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
24. Relatable
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:52 PM
Jun 2018

Can't stand either of those two.

MSNBC favorites are Rachel Maddow and Stephanie Ruhle.

CNN favorites are Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper (though I don't love some of their RW shill guests).

Hawaii Hiker

(3,166 posts)
15. SK must have a personality disorder
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:28 PM
Jun 2018

He is devoid of a personality, seems robotic...Never cared for him..

lapfog_1

(29,226 posts)
19. He really tries too hard to make something "dramatic"
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:32 PM
Jun 2018

always going to his giant surface tablet and zooming in or out and drawing circles and then more arm waving and hand gestures...

Does anyone really find this either entertaining or informative?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
16. He's exhausting.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:29 PM
Jun 2018
I absolutely can't stand Kornacki
and his wild gesticulation
He's exhausting. I also can't stand politicians who over-gesticulate. It may be great for comic celebrity impersonators... but it's exceedingly distracting. (It's like when someone gets a spit ball on their lips or in the corner of their mouth... you can't hear what they're saying because the spitball is such a gross distraction.)

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
25. I was going to write a similar post.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 03:42 PM
Jun 2018

Nothing as descriptive. But of the same sentiment. We're suffering the worst week since November 2016 and we get Kornacki? Ugh.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
29. K&R. I cannot abide the man.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 03:54 PM
Jun 2018

He acts as if suffering from St. Vitus Dance, gesticulating and preening for the camera while unable to contain his glee if reporting news that is presumably bad news for Dems. And, for the love of Dog, I don't know how much MSNBC pays him but one would think that he surely ought to be able to afford another pair of pants!

radius777

(3,635 posts)
44. Khakis are a "uniform" for men of the younger gens
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 06:25 PM
Jun 2018

Khakis and Dockers are comfortable and basically have replaced 'dress pants' as the pants of choice in the workplace for most men of the younger generations.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
39. I can't watch the guy.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 05:02 PM
Jun 2018

MSNBC seems to think his schtick is cute, but IMHO, he's unwatchable. On election/primary nights, I switch to CNN and watch John King work the maps. He's low key and provides more detailed and insightful information.

Someone tell Steve to calm down.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
41. We don't
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 05:11 PM
Jun 2018

Like him either. I hate the way most people on the news screech all the time etc. Most of the time I turn the sound off or lower it a lot if it’s on.

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