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Could the 'new' Supreme Court take them away?
RandySF
(59,264 posts)but I am not sure about marriage equality. Didn't Roberts even join the majority in a case?
secondwind
(16,903 posts)settled law be rolled back???
OnDoutside
(19,974 posts)engaged with the political process. There are enough independents and Democrats to beat them back if they just GOTV.
Initech
(100,104 posts)And one jackass with a wrecking ball and a trip to Vegas to blow it all!
Behind the Aegis
(53,991 posts)One only has to look to the various laws looking to exclude GLBT people to see that our rights are on the line. However, I don't think many will be as outraged if they start rolling them back. GLBT issues are still very much a wedge issue.
Vinca
(50,310 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,968 posts)
abortion rights would be ended. They have been chipping away, so the new SC will look at the totality and determine it was "bad law." On marriage equality, the chipping away stage will begin with "religious liberty" (translation: religious bigotry) being the reason. After the chipping away stage, it will going away, too - with a right-wing SC.
Even worse, voting rights will be further restricted. Not only did Hillary Clinton win the 2016 vote, adding up the non-Presidential totals for Congress show Democrats should be running Congress! Republicans will be trying to restrict more voting. they will use the courts to pick their voters.
JI7
(89,275 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)Will be attacked by his pick. They'll feed him a list of people that'll accomplish that for them too. It'll be up to some in the GOP to finally say goodbye to their party, and join the Democrats against them . There's many within their party that are fed up with where he's taken them, and how he's doing, so now is the time to stand up for the America we know, not pro russian putin hugging trump and mitch mcconnell.
manor321
(3,344 posts)safeinOhio
(32,727 posts)Big Business rights are safe.
no_hypocrisy
(46,202 posts)The USSC has to incrementally weaken them and that takes time. With exceptions where the precedent has been already weakened, then it's easier to overturn a prior standard/decision, such as abortion.
Unless Trump packs the lower federal courts with activist judges who overrule precedent in a wholesale way. But that would never happen, right . . . . ?
Whiskeytide
(4,463 posts)... The norms dont really apply anymore. State AGs (in the usual states) and special interests organizations will press cases to the SC as quickly as they can, seeing the opportunity. Quite a few issues are likely to make their way to a decision over the next 5 years.
The Court has traditionally been occupied by justices who felt they were jurists first, political ideologues second. Politics has always been a big part of it, but most leaned this way or that, and they had an institutional respect for precedent and impartiality. Many times justices have voted contrary to what you might expect given their political position, but did so because they felt the law required them to. I think that mindset has gone by the wayside, at least for the Republicans, and it is a my team must win mentality now.
We saw it here in Alabama when the state SC was taken over in the late 90s. Things cheanged pretty dramatically virtually overnight.
Runningdawg
(4,522 posts)universal, medicare, medicaid, disability, CHIP.....ALL of it is on the target with abortion being the bullseye. I can see the "religious rights" argument becoming less about cakes and flowers and more about who deserves health insurance coverage, an ambulance, police protection or to have their home and life saved by the fire dept.
sinkingfeeling
(51,474 posts)Iggo
(47,571 posts)Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)this country for her own safety.
Paladin
(28,275 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)OnDoutside
(19,974 posts)Research from this time last year http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/
The overall is 57-43 in favour of abortion in some or all cases.
Republicans are against abortion by 65-35, or rather, 35% support it. And that's a key figure in the fight.
Women overall support Abortion Rights by 59-41.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Those things were just red meat for the base, but while they're looting the Treasury, Social Security, undermining wages and regulations, why not make the country look as fascist as it will be? It's not as though the Supreme Court can't pick and choose its battles.