When I argued in 2016 if for no other reason to vote for the Democratic nominee was the Supreme

[still_one]

Court, I was ridiculed and belittled by those who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee arguing that "it is always the same excuse, and it doesn't matter"

[wasupaloopa]

1. Those folks are as scarce as hens teeth these days. There is no getting satisfaction because the

outcome has been so bad.

All we have is an object lesson.

[still_one]

9. That is the tradgedy of the whole thing. They duped enough impressionable people to believe it that

garbage

[Raster]

2. Yeah, well, I hope those persons fucking choke on this latest 5-4 SCOTUS decision...

...and every other one to come, and MARK MY WORDS: there will be more.

[The Mouth]

33. Hell, in might get worse than 5-4

going 'forward'

But, but, but.. her emails!!!!

[manor321]

3. Oh yeah

I remember all of those discussions.

[Gothmog]

4. I agreed with you then and today proves that you are right

[mcar]

5. I remember that too

Anyone who said it was put down.

[Demsrule86]

6. Same here.

[JI7]

7. You have to understand that those people don't really care about these issues

[leftynyc]

10. They don't care about

women's rights and protecting minorities? Then they're not Democrats. I'd get banned if I called them what they are.

[JI7]

11. That's right, they are trolls and want republicans to win

[still_one]

12. They may not care,but those they influenced, and many others, are going to suffer immensely because

of that

[JI7]

13. Yes, but we need to stop pretending they give a shit about it

And call them out on their true agenda.

Stop calling them progressives, liberals, etc

[leftynyc]

8. Same here

I BEGGED people to consider the entire federal bench and was mocked for it. Fuck them and I hope they suffer from both these disgusting rulings today.

[Zoonart]

15. YEP!

Don't know about you, Leftie, but this was my second time at the SCOTUS ricdicule rodeo. First time was 2000 with Al gore. SCOTUS is the only chance we have to play the long game in our democracy. We like homeruns and touchdowns and slam dunks in the right fudging now.

You know who play the long game? Russia. They have divided the left.

[leftynyc]

16. The putrid russians

have divided Americans in general. The SC (and the rest of the federal bench) has ALWAYS been my #1 issue - it's the ONLY thing that can't be undone and the ramifications are for decades. The shortsightedness of those who had a hissy fit because their candidate lost makes me far angrier than the republicans who are morons.

[Zoonart]

17. N/T

[J_William_Ryan]

14. Made the same argument

Trump could end up making 5 appointments to the Court.

[Hekate]

18. I flipped on the tv this a.m., saw the SCOTUS decision, turned it off feeling sick.

Yes I remember those asinine posts quite well. The same thing happened here when Obama was running the first time. It got so I would simply reply SCOTUS SCOTUS SCOTUS

Some people are idiots and some are trolls. But perhaps I repeat myself.

[emulatorloo]

19. "STOP FEAR-MONGERING!!! I WILL NOT VOTE OUT OF FEAR!"

“BESIDES HILLARY IS WORSE THAN TRUMP HE IS THE CHANGE CANDIDATE”

See also:

A liberal case for Donald Trump: The lesser of two evils is not at all clear in 2016
Is there one? A Trump presidency needn’t be a nightmare for the left. On many issues, Clinton presidency might be

WALKER BRAGMAN
APRIL 29, 2016 10:00AM (UTC)

https://www.salon.com/2016/04/29/a_liberal_case_for_donald_trump_the_lesser_of_two_evils_is_not_at_all_clear_in_2016/

“

[still_one]

22. yes, and it makes me literally sick

[LeftInTX]

43. I can't locate any articles from Walker Bragman after 2016

I wonder why?

I can't find him anywhere, expect on Twitter: https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

I wonder what his handle is on JPR?

His stupid article is full of mistakes:

The last consecutive two-term presidents from the same political party were James Madison and James Monroe

From 1868-1885 (17 years) and from 1897-1913 (16 years) we had a Republican president. Some died in office, so they didn't finish their terms, but.......

We also had FDR who was elected for four-terms. Truman served almost two full terms.....(He wasn't eligible to run in 1952)

Anyway the rest of the article is full of sheet.....

[beachbum bob]

20. Jill stein and putin are happy.

[iluvtennis]

25. Especially Putin....exactly what he wants

[ananda]

21. Not by me!

I have always thought this.

[Dopers_Greed]

23. Gorsuch needs to be removed

[still_one]

24. on what grounds?

[fallout87]

38. And how?

[Tom Rinaldo]

26. I did so as well. Some listened and some didn't. Of course I added other arguments also but that...

was Number One. I also mentioned all the other conservative judges who would be installed in lower courts, and all of the under assistants to the deputy directors of agencies X Y and Z who would be appointed to gut all the regulations. Those arguments brought some people home, while others remained roaming the wilderness

[still_one]

27. There is no doubt in my mind that those of us here at DU today, no matter who we supported in the

primaries, knew what the stakes were, and did the right thing

[Thekaspervote]

28. I begged pleaded and cajoled dozens of times... remember scotus

So now we all pay the price, certainly some more than others

[spin]

29. Many conservatives also considered the Supreme Court as a reason to ...

vote for Trump. Trump is not a true conservative by any means but he is putting conservative justices on the court.

The bottom line is that you were right. Elections do indeed matter.

[LiberalLovinLug]

30. Oh please..

On DU? That is what you implying.

No one 'ridiculed' or 'belittled' anyone on here for suggesting that the SCOTUS was the most, or a very, important reason to vote Democratic. And if anyone espoused in a post how they were NOT voting Democratic because.."it is always the same excuse, and it doesn't matter", they'd have been seen the door, as per the rules...and scurried off to the other site where that talk is accepted.

You are making a straw man argument to make yourself feel important. And encouraging others to "re-remember" the same thing. I am always amazed at how potent the power of suggestion is on this board sometimes.

[ProfessorPlum]

40. Thanks for this

People who were not going to vote for our nominee were few and far between.

[dhol82]

31. That's what I was screaming about to anyone who would listen

To me, the Supreme Court was the primary reason we needed the win.
This is a disaster now.

[keepFocused06]

32. They just didn't care

They were too busy worrying about some wall street speeches and out of context quotes from over 20 years ago.

[Chalco]

34. SCOTUS is the most important part of the vote!

Scotus lasts for years past whoever is president. It's more
important than the president. I don't care how stupid any
candidate wins even if it's a Democrat. Decades of decisions
are affected. Why don't people get it?

[IronLionZion]

35. A lot of DUers felt Democratic Underground was for burying Democrats under the ground

and there would be daily purity purges urging us not to support Dems in the general election, especially moderates from red states, and of course our presidential nominee.

And we still see some of that nonsense here. It needs to be alerted on. Elections have consequences.

The dumbest DUers urged us to vote against Dems who voted for Bush's court appointees, regardless of them voting for Obama's appointees. This was even after the Supreme Court struck down all the laws against gay marriage, and upheld Obamacare mandate, and other stuff we can agree on.

[ProfessorPlum]

41. I think they may have been Russian trolls

Because most on DU know better than to vote against the Democrat in a general election.

[IronLionZion]

42. I've been here 15 years and seen it the whole time

Even Skinner has posted his concerns about it.

[ProfessorPlum]

44. Trolls you mean?

A 17 year veteran here. We've certainly seen a lot, and a lot of change. Cheers

[DrDan]

36. you'd probably hit your target over at JPR

[debsy]

37. PLEASE don't forget about RUSSIAN BOTS and TROLLS.

I'm sure they played a large part in all the conflict pre-2016-election here as well as on other sites. I'm sure they are going to play a role in the mid-terms this year as well. Let us be supportive of each other and DEMOCRATS instead of focusing on our differences.

[Hassler]

39. It was a simple choice: a normal person or a fascist who would give politicians in robes

Like Gorsuch jobs for life. Yet, as in 2000, enough couldn't figure it out. Give Repugs credit, they knew the stakes.