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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:16 AM Jun 2018

America is now officially off my list of places to visit for the duration

It is a shame. I love America. We have had family property that we visit regularly for sustained periods of time for over two decades. America is one of my favourite places.

BUT

Now that the Supreme Court has upheld Trumps Anti-Muslim Travel Ban I can no longer visit. Not for the duration. You see I have an administrative assistant who is from Iran. She has dual citizenship and she pops back and forth to visit family in Iran on a regular basis. She is lovely but a tad dippy. The only reason she would want to visit the States is to go to Disney World – she in fact has a pair of ridiculous mickey mouse ears head band that she wears on a regular basis – I have tried to explain that is not a great look for a 25 year old – but I am sure she just pities me and my obvious lack of style

As a point of principle, if she CANNOT visit the States, I WILL NOT visit the States. This mini me boycott started the date the original ban was announced so it is not a radical departure from my travel habits over the last year, however I was hoping that SCOTUS would do the right thing. Alas it was not to be. So no visits for the foreseeable.

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America is now officially off my list of places to visit for the duration (Original Post) Soph0571 Jun 2018 OP
If I didn't live here exboyfil Jun 2018 #1
I don't blame you in the least. nt Ilsa Jun 2018 #2
Where are you, Soph? cilla4progress Jun 2018 #3
I am in London Soph0571 Jun 2018 #5
Oh... cilla4progress Jun 2018 #7
Iran is not the best place for a woman to visit either. Tipperary Jun 2018 #4
Indeed - I would not visit anywhere that made me cover up Soph0571 Jun 2018 #6
I'm afraid to leave here and come back crazycatlady Jun 2018 #8
If I didn't live here already I wouldn't visit either. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #9
No need for that DFW Jun 2018 #10
That's nice to know. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #11
By the way, if you can speak Norsk DFW Jun 2018 #14
I wouldn't come here either. WhiteTara Jun 2018 #12
Stay away until we get this sorted. We will resist until we win. Then, welcome back! kairos12 Jun 2018 #13
Andy Borowitz just predicted reactions like yours. From his latest "report:" DFW Jun 2018 #15
And you will be missed by the majority of sane US citizens. raven mad Jun 2018 #16
Others will feel the same way Demovictory9 Jun 2018 #17

cilla4progress

(24,766 posts)
7. Oh...
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:27 AM
Jun 2018


Was recently in Canada. Could not BELIEVE the positive, peaceful, thrumming vibe. Solace to this broken American heart.
 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
4. Iran is not the best place for a woman to visit either.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:22 AM
Jun 2018

A friend had to pretend to be married to visit.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
6. Indeed - I would not visit anywhere that made me cover up
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:25 AM
Jun 2018

BUT that is my choice. As is not going to visit the US currently!

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
8. I'm afraid to leave here and come back
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:27 AM
Jun 2018

The thought of dealing with Trump's border patrol makes me vomit. Now international travel is not something I have experience with (I don't have a valid passport), but border patrol makes a vacation seem like torture.

I'm a 9th generation white American and I feel that way. I could imagine what POC might feel like.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,836 posts)
9. If I didn't live here already I wouldn't visit either.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:28 AM
Jun 2018

But I have kind of the opposite problem: I'd like to do some traveling now that I'm retired, but I'm too embarrassed to leave the country.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
10. No need for that
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:38 AM
Jun 2018

As one who spends most time overseas, I can tell you that most people realize that Trump was and is NOT the choice of a majority of Americans, and that he and his gang are taking from us what they can, just like Dick Cheney did, and then couching it patriotic mumbo jumbo before they flee to some haven like Dubai (like Halliburton did).

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,836 posts)
11. That's nice to know.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:45 AM
Jun 2018

My brother visited Norway last spring and he said one question he got from the locals was "How did that happen?" And all he could say is "I don't know; I didn't vote for him." I'd like to visit there, too, once my Norwegian has improved a bit (I know most people speak English there, but I think it's a courtesy to at least try to speak the local language) but I'm afraid I'd insist on staying and they'd end up having to deport me, screaming and in restraints.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
14. By the way, if you can speak Norsk
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 01:40 PM
Jun 2018

They might be so thrilled, they'll let you stay after all. I can't, but my Swedish is pretty good, and I never had any language problems in Norway, as the two are close to identical. Of course, given the local rivalry, they might be more receptive to an American speaking broken Norwegian to one speaking fluent Swedish!

on edit--on the other hand, one time in Sweden, I was speaking with someone that I hadn't met before, and they told me that I had "almost" lost my accent, but he could still tell I was originally from Norway (!!!). So go figure.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
15. Andy Borowitz just predicted reactions like yours. From his latest "report:"
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 01:44 PM
Jun 2018

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Shortly after the United States Supreme Court upheld Donald J. Trump’s controversial travel ban, millions of people from other countries expressed puzzlement that anyone would want to travel to the United States at this juncture.

In interviews with people from around the world, respondents said that the travel ban struck them as unnecessary, because the United States was not currently on the list of the top hundred countries to which they would consider travelling.

When asked to name the reasons they felt that a travel ban was superfluous, many of those interviewed cited the United States’s gun violence and crumbling infrastructure, as well as its broken educational and health-care systems, while others singled out its President’s startling disrespect for democratic norms and human rights.

Given those views, most of the foreigners interviewed said they found the news of the Supreme Court’s decision baffling. “When I heard that the United States was having a travel ban, I assumed that was to keep people from leaving,” one respondent said, echoing the sentiments of many.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
16. And you will be missed by the majority of sane US citizens.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 01:45 AM
Jun 2018

I don't blame you. If I can't back you, I say it up front, not through a bunch of assholes appointed by other assholes.

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