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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNYT Opinion: We Have a Crisis of Democracy, Not Manners by Michelle Goldberg
Naturally, all this has led to lots of pained disapproval from self-appointed guardians of civility. A Washington Post editorial urged the protesters to think about the precedent they are setting. How hard is it to imagine, for example, people who strongly believe that abortion is murder deciding that judges or other officials who protect abortion rights should not be able to live peaceably with their families? it asked.
Of course, this is not hard to imagine at all, since abortion opponents have assassinated abortion providers in their homes and churches, firebombed their clinics and protested at their childrens schools. The Roman Catholic Church has shamed politicians who support abortion rights by denying them communion. The failure to acknowledge this history is a sign of the reflexive false balance that makes it hard for the mainstream media to grapple with the asymmetric extremism of the Republican Party.
Whether or not you think public shaming should be happening, its important to understand why its happening. Its less a result of a breakdown in civility than a breakdown of democracy. Though its tiresome to repeat it, Donald Trump eked out his minority victory with help from a hostile foreign power. He has ruled exclusively for his vengeful supporters, who love the way he terrifies, outrages and humiliates their fellow citizens. Trump installed the right-wing Neil Gorsuch in the Supreme Court seat that Republicans stole from Barack Obama. Gorsuch, in turn, has been the fifth vote in decisions on voter roll purges and, on Monday, racial gerrymandering that will further entrench minority rule.
Sometimes, their strategies may be poorly conceived. But theres an abusive sort of victim-blaming in demanding that progressives single-handedly uphold civility, lest the right become even more uncivil in response. As long as our rulers wage war on cosmopolitan culture, they shouldnt feel entitled to its fruits. If they dont want to hear from the angry citizens theyre supposed to serve, let them eat at Trump Grill.
Read more - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/opinion/trump-sarah-huckabee-sanders-restaurant-civility.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytopinion
Good piece, bolding mine, not a long read.
Nuclear Pyle
(51 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Cha
(297,624 posts)PunkinPi
(4,878 posts)Cha
(297,624 posts)from the NYT's writer Michelle Goldberg.
I think the WaPo board jumped the gun and fell flat on their collective face.
"It's a little more complicated when the professional racist is the president of the United States. The norms of our political life require a degree of bipartisan forbearance. But treating members of Donald Trumps administration as ordinary public officials rather than pariahs does more to normalize bigotry than exercising alongside a white separatist.
"Its less a result of a breakdown in civility than a breakdown of democracy. Though its tiresome to repeat it, Donald Trump eked out his minority victory with help from a hostile foreign power. He has ruled exclusively for his vengeful supporters, who love the way he terrifies, outrages and humiliates their fellow citizens. Trump installed the right-wing Neil Gorsuch in the Supreme Court seat that Republicans stole from Barack Obama. Gorsuch, in turn, has been the fifth vote in decisions on voter roll purges and, on Monday, racial gerrymandering that will further entrench minority rule.
"If they dont want to hear from the angry citizens theyre supposed to serve, let them eat at Trump Grill."
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/opinion/trump-sarah-huckabee-sanders-restaurant-civility.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytopinion
That's exactly right.. they're suppose to serve Us.. not serving their fucking Russian overlords.
Mahalo, Punkin Pi!
PunkinPi
(4,878 posts)Cha
(297,624 posts)Goldberg frames it.. exactly right.
PunkinPi
(4,878 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)We need to show this to any of our Dem MOC and other politicians who soft pedal what is happening.
Thank you
aeromanKC
(3,327 posts)Eat at own risk!! Recent Health Inspection (dated 1/18) Mar a Lago had 15 Health Violations.
Botany
(70,579 posts)How did McConnell know that by blocking Garland he would get
a different person after the election?
"Trump installed the right-wing Neil Gorsuch in the Supreme Court seat that
Republicans stole from Barack Obama."
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)have practiced the bullying and destruction of decency and have openly and crassly mocked the rule of law and their 0pposition with no accountability. None. It has been decades in the making and we have arrived at the Perfect Storm level of danger.
For whatever reasons high-road tactics legislative Democrats have embraced, it isnt working. Mostly because Republicans and their repulsive followers dont have ANY character or concern for American values as long as they get their putrid agenda passed and big money in the pockets of their gods.
They are quite at home on the pond scum levels they prefer.
Ms. Im too distant and mannequin-cool to be blamed for anything Melanias coat said everything we need to to know about the content of their character as well as giving us a very simple answer to their repulsive and arrogant...Do you?
The Republicans and Cretin supporters are getting away with murder. Figuratively and literally. They are thieves. They are cheats. They are the nastiest, soulless liars in our history ( and that history is rife with plenty of lies) They count on the less combative and higher road nature of Democrats to always back down or off.
If we as citizens and humans dont get in their fucking faces and make daily existence out beyond the halls of their hallowed halls of horror in Congress and the foully stained White House extremely uncomfortable and angrily hold them rightfully accountable, we will LOSE OUR COUNTRY.
WE. The people. WILL LOSE. The domestic terrorists will win. What we have lost already is overwhelming while we wait.
Putting all the eggs into Muellers painstakingly slowly filling basket is not going to staunch the flow of reeking crap that is being hourly shoved down our throats until we choke.
Voting IS a must. Primo. And we have to vote in massive numbers to combat the corruption, treason, and foreign Control. But we have to make their shameful daily existence unbearable for them in non-violent, but relentless ways. We have the numbers. They can always go lower, as they prove time and again. We can always still stay on a higher ground than any of them. But we have to fight back!
In their faces. In their lives beyond reality TV sound bites. In the living, breathing world they love to destroy for everyone else. Now.
mountain grammy
(26,648 posts)The NYT schools the NYT.. This: "Its less a result of a breakdown in civility than a breakdown of democracy."
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)thanks for sharing it
Loved this piece as well:
millions and millions of Americans watch helplessly as the president cages children, dehumanizes immigrants, spurns other democracies, guts health care protections, uses his office to enrich himself and turns public life into a deranged phantasmagoria with his incontinent flood of lies.
mcar
(42,372 posts)A good counter to WaPo's stupid editorial yesterday.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)PunkinPi
(4,878 posts)Tatiana
(14,167 posts)So WE'RE supposed to uphold civility, but the Republicans can still do whatever the hell they want?
We need to very loudly tell them to get out of here with that bull$hit.