DAMN IT, Haberman is STILL arguing over the use of the word "LIE" when reporting on Trump

[Miles Archer]

Maggie Haberman
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"We're spending 90 percent of NATO," Trump says falsely, a few weeks before he heads to the NATO summit

5:44 PM - 25 Jun 2018

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Mary Beth Schneider
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Mary Beth Schneider Retweeted Maggie Haberman
So, he lied.

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Replying to @marybschneider
Do you think people don't understand it's not true if the word false instead of lie is used?

5:57 PM - 25 Jun 2018

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Mary Beth Schneider
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Replying to @maggieNYT
I think lie is clearer, yes. Every president has said falsehoods but this level of lying seems unprecedented. (And I didn’t mean it as a criticism of you, but of him.)

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Replying to @marybschneider
I understand. Your followers, I suspect, will not.

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Jordan Fischer
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Replying to @maggieNYT @marybschneider
Oh, you might be surprised; we're a thoughtful bunch. Some of us can even read.

6:45 PM - 25 Jun 2018

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Maggie Haberman
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Replying to @Jordan_RTV6 @marybschneider
You’re a journalist. You are not quite who I mean.

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Eric Epstein
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Replying to @maggieNYT @Jordan_RTV6 @marybschneider
I’m not a journalist, and I know exactly what @marybschneider is talking about. You surely know that the difference between “said falsely” and “lied” is intent. Can there be any doubt at this point about POTUS’ intent? Call a spade a spade.

7:24 PM - 25 Jun 2018

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[Moostache]

1. Maggie, DO YOUR JOB OR QUIT.

Stop splitting hairs and trying to avoid the obvious. A liar is not to be abided as he shreds the nation and those who refuse to point this out can leave with him in disgrace.

Grow a spine, do REAL journalism or GTFO here...

[Blaukraut]

2. Wow, what a condescending piece of work she is n/t

[LonePirate]

3. Maggie continues angling for a job at Fox apparently.

[dalton99a]

4. It's clear that she values access to power above everything else.

[ornotna]

5. She talks that way for a reason

She has to seem "reasonable" so she can be on tv to make money. It's all about the bank account.

[TreasonousBastard]

6. I'm on Maggie's side here...

Saying a statement is false is simply stating a fact.

But claiming that statement was a lie now becomes an accusation, which has a much higher standard of evidence and intent.

[SHRED]

7. Need to start using the word "Nazis" in my opinion.

That's what he and they resemble.

[MelissaB]

8. About Maggie

and the NYT... Poke the Bear.

http://www.citjourno.org/maggie1

A search in The New York Times’ digital archive with the terms “Hillary” and “emails” for which Maggie Haberman was listed as an author, written between 1/1/2015 and 11/8/2016 returned 68 results.


Here are search results for articles published between 1/1/2015 and 11/8/2016, on which Maggie Haberman was listed as an author:


“Hillary” and “Email server” 53 results.
“Hillary” and “Benghazi” 41 results.
“Hillary” and "Gennifer Flowers" 3 results.
“Hillary” and “Lewinsky” 3 results.
“Hillary” and “Whitewater” 4 results.
“Hillary” and "Sexual assault" 8 results.
“Hillary” and “Untrustworthy” 4 results.
“Trump” and “Untrustworthy” 1 result.
“Trump” and "Sexual assault" 8 results.
“Trump” and “Bankruptcy” 3 results.
“Donald Trump” and “Roy Cohn” 1 result.
“Trump” and “Sater” 0 results. Remove Maggie as author requirement, and only 2 results are returned.
“Trump” and “Mafia” 0 results.
“Trump” and “Bayrock” 0 results.
“Trump” and “Arif” 0 results.
“Trump” and “Mashkevich” 0 results.
“Trump” and “Soho” 2 results.
“Trump” and “Apprentice” and “Racism” 0 results.
"Trump" and “Housing” and "Bias" and "FBI" 0 results.
"Trump" and "Access Hollywood" 2 results.
“Trump” and "Katie Johnson" 0 results.
“Trump” and “Epstein” 0 results.
“Trump” and “Underage” 0 results.
“Russian” and “Mafia” 0 results.
“Manafort” and “Firtash” 0 results.
“Manafort” and “Ukraine” 4 results.
“;Manafort” and “Mafia” 0 results.
“Manafort” and “Yanukovych” 3 results.


Just take in those numbers. “0” results for the terms Mafia, Bayrock, Apprentice, Racism, Housing (arguably Trump’s biggest NY city scandal), Felix Sater.


This is the reporter who had the premiere access to Trump, his family, and Jared Kushner for over a decade and a half. Those search terms are some of the biggest words in Trump land. Not just from the election cycle, but long before it - and all these months after it, during his Presidency.

If you haven't, please Poke the Bear.

http://www.citjourno.org/page-1

[lagomorph777]

9. Enough with the NewSpeak already. Knock off the "untruth" "falsehood" "disingenuous" CRAP!

LIES dammit, try to keep up here! Trump and the RePutins are LYING LIARS who tell only LIES!