When will these gun massacres become so routine

[MoonRiver]

that we all just shrug and say, 'oh well, another month, another slaughter'?

It is increasingly clear that NOBODY in government is going to do ANYTHING to stop this madness, so, what the hell, looks like we just have to live with the horror and hope and pray that 'me and mine' are not randomly chosen to be gunned down.

[Peepsite]

1. Ten years ago at least

[msongs]

2. pretty soon they will become as routine as US drone massacres in the mid east nt

[Zalatix]

11. That is NOT the same thing and you know it.

American Exceptionalism CLEARLY states that when massacres happen to us, it is a tragedy, when it happens to pesky brown people overseas, it is the war on terror.

[fascisthunter]

3. people who love guns more than life are already saying no big deal

and want more guns as an answer.

[MoonRiver]

21. Yes, and how well has that worked out for them?

I know YOU know the answer, but are THEY getting a clue?

[fascisthunter]

30. Them getting a clue? Nope...that's a good thing

it exposes them.

[enough]

4. Now. (nt)

[cthulu2016]

5. 10-15 years ago

[OneGrassRoot]

6. Does anyone know if any former pro-gun advocates...

were involved in any of these more recent incidents and subsequently became gun-control advocates?

Surely some changed their tune after witnessing such horrors?

[SheilaT]

7. I had a thread shut down for saying this after Aurora,

but I just want to hear some "all guns everywhere anytime are okay" person say something on the order of, "It's just fine with me that my six year old grandchild was murdered because I fully support the right of everyone to be armed."


I just wonder if those who support the current idiotic gun laws ever, ever lose someone to gun violence. And if they are simply okay with that.

[Logical]

18. How do you stop this when owning guns is legal? n-t

[SheilaT]

19. Assault rifles.

clips that allow 30 or more shots. Maybe some of those shouldn't be legal.

We have some huge number of deaths every year from guns in this country. Other countries, which restrict gun ownership in sensible ways, don't have those deaths.

I just wish that the only people who got hurt in these various mass murder incidents were those, and only those who support unrestricted gun ownership.

Until you say and really mean it, It's okay if my child or grandchild or mother or brother or nephew, or any other close relative, is killed in these kinds of incidents, it's okay because everyone is entitled to assault weapons, then let's find a way to restrict some kinds of gun ownership.


I am so freaking tired of these things happening, and it's always treated as some kind of weird aberration, as if our gun laws have absolutely nothing to do with these things. Isn't it somewhat odd that these things don't happen in other countries?

[Logical]

20. This person had a single 9mm pistol according to CNN. N-t

[Jenoch]

23. An assault rifle

has not been documented as used in a crime in the United States since the infamous 1997 North Hollywood bank robbery and shootout in which the only loss of life were the two bank robbers.

By the way, while of course these incidents are abhorrent, they do happen in other countries. Over 70 people lost their lives to a lunatic in Norway not long ago.

[tiny elvis]

27. your abhorrent source for info makes you look bad

http://www.buffalonews.com/city/communities/buffalo/article260214.ece
http://www.thecrimereport.org/archive/more-assault-rifles-turn-up-in-hands-of-criminals
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29423140/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/man-charged-assault-rifle-killings-teens/#.UB9gUKOcBKU

while of course these incidents are abhorrent, they do happen in other countries

that is a non sequitur, one idea does not follow reasonably from the other
without decoration-
although these incidents are bad, they (also) happen in other countries
used this way, the first idea is insincere and the second is made stupid
bereft of a predicate, the last sentence would be neutral if it were not obscurantist,
legitimizing these otherwise foolish questions-

what made people lose their lives to breivik one day?
was he lunatic the previous day when people were not losing their lives to him?
was there some specific action on his part that made people lose their lives to him?
does the awesome power of lunacy make people lose their lives to its wielders?


militia gunpeace to all

[Jenoch]

28. Your first link

was to a story about semi-auto rifles and the second did not mention the make of the rifle so it is impossible to be certain it really was an assault rifle. While any murders are of course abhorrent, most media and even law enforcement make mistakes in reporting the type of weapons involved.

I wish somebody had the answers to your questions.

[xchrom]

8. They're routine already. And we're numb to it

Cause no one can stand the screeching threats from 2a fundies.

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. "Will?", or "Did?"

It's here, and has been for too long already.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Unless they happen in a movie theatre or a temple

They are pretty much routine anymore. 62 pages of incidents that qualify since 2005.

The question is what do we do now?

[ananda]

12. It's true.

Some multiple shootings don't make the national news.

A month ago four people here were shot downtown
during the night scene... nobody died though.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. San Diego afternoon, on the scanner

Trauma one level alert, MCI declared, two dead seven to trauma centers, ne'er a pip n the media...for me out of coverage area, for rest, Tuesday afternoon in the "right" area of town.

For the record, if that was El Cajon, in area, I would have tried.

[UnrepentantLiberal]

14. .

[MichiganVote]

15. Right. Because people, professionals, in the schools, have been TELLING you all for 10+years

Did anyone listen? Oh hell no.

[tiny elvis]

16. you have three days to openly discuss the last massacre

consent and apathy are manufactured for public venues

[MoonRiver]

22. Is it actually becoming entertainment?

This could be the modern day version of Roman gladiator spectacles.

[tiny elvis]

24. gladiators running amok in the streets would not have been entertaining

what is a militia?

[MoonRiver]

25. Are you sure?

[Edweird]

29. (1)The militia consists of all able-bodied citizens of this state.........

The 2012 Florida Statutes

Title XVII
MILITARY AFFAIRS AND RELATED MATTERS

Chapter 250
MILITARY AFFAIRS

View Entire Chapter
250.02?Militia.—
(1)?The militia consists of all able-bodied citizens of this state and all other able-bodied persons who have declared their intention to become citizens.
(2)?The organized militia is composed of the National Guard and any other organized military forces that are authorized by law.
(3)?The unorganized militia is composed of all persons who are subject to military duty but who are not members of units of the organized militia.
(4)?Only persons exempt from military duty by the terms of federal law are exempt from military duty in this state.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0200-0299/0250/Sections/0250.02.html






The organized militia created by the Militia Act of 1903, which split from the 1792 Uniform Militia forces, and consist of State militia forces, notably the National Guard and the Naval Militia. The National Guard however, is not to be confused with the National Guard of the United States, which is a federally recognized reserve military force, although the two are linked.
The reserve militia or unorganized militia, also created by the Militia Act of 1903 which presently consist of every able-bodied man of at least 17 and under 45 years of age who are not members of the National Guard or Naval Militia.(that is, anyone who would be eligible for a draft). Former members of the armed forces up to age 65 are also considered part of the "unorganized militia" per Sec 313 Title 32 of the US Code.

[Zoeisright]

17. They already are.