I haven't fully arrived at an opinion regarding shunning of prominent Deplorables in public spaces.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

But if I was the target of such ire I would ask myself how and why my behavior engenders such vocal opposition. Trump and his enablers have poisoned the well we all drink from. Let's just call it the hate hate creates.


Maybe if Trump's Deplorable followers didn't call those opposed to Trump "soy boys", "cucks" and "snowflakes" in search of "safeplaces" and turned away from their wicked ways they could once again enjoy the public square.


If the children and infants of undocumented immigrants can't eat in peace why should Trump's prominent Deplorable followers eat in peace ?

I'm wrestling with that question.

[exboyfil]

1. The President refers to good Americans

some of who have given millions of dollars to charity as SOBs.

He also has advocated the brutalization of prisoners under the custody of LEOs.

It is pretty much a slam dunk certainty that he intentionally exercised the child separation policy to hold policy concessions hostage.

It also seems that the majority (if not every time) that he does this, it is directed towards POCs.

Don't even get started with the paper roll toss in Puerto Rico when those POC where fighting for their lives.

[empedocles]

2. Through the ages

'shunning' is how much social order was promoted. [Though not always for the good].

Fun observation, in classical Athens, they had a name for it which I don't immediately recall, in which they voted to kick one person out of Athens.

[jpljr77]

14. Ostracism

What you're referencing in Athens was called ostracism. But, fair warning, it was often used to quash dissent and prop up those in power.

[RobinA]

21. I'm Not Sure

this would work today. Shunning depends on the person’s discomfort at being kept out of the herd. These days it’s too easy to rustle up some compatriots.

[beachbum bob]

3. Shunning?.. boo and hiss them...

[HopeAgain]

4. Peaceful Resistance

That is our best tool to fight fascism. I do not think such resistance should be limited to political settings once the government officials have crossed the lines of tradition, truth, the law and and the constitutionality.

I think these people should be refused everything except legal representation and medical care.

Erdogan was just re-elected in Turkey. It could happen here.

[NCTraveler]

5. I have no issue with shunning them.

I would just ask these people to not do it without thought. There are consequences for their actions. Many are still oblivious as to what these things do in this day and age.

[asiliveandbreathe]

6. I have no problem shunning prominent deplorable but then I do not consider

sarah 3 names prominent - she is deplorable, evil, liar, poor excuse for a woman....that is all.....

[lark]

7. People that support and applaud kidnapping and torturing children get no respect.

They deserve every and any vile thing that happens, they are the ones dragging America into the waste filled pit, they have lowered the opinion of people world wide when it comes to this country. They are destroying us on a daily basis and have no cares about targeting people just for the color of their skin. They break laws with impunity. THEY TORTURE AND KIDNAP CHILDREN!!!

Mueller, is our only hope! The Russian Repug SCOTUS is allowing partisan gerrymandering and Russia is going to steal the election unless Mueller does enough that impeachment goes forward as even repugs turn away from the proven traitor in disgust. We need Muellers information to get outted publicly, especially any tape of drumpf committing election violations and treason.

[workinclasszero]

8. I will shun any POS that is pro child kidnapping and imprisonment

And time, any damn where!

I had to think one second on that question.

It's time to draw the line IMO

[lapislzi]

9. Sell them no goods

Turn away when you see them. Cross the street. Ignore them when they speak. Leave the premises when they enter. Leave the church pew empty where they sit themselves. The only exception would be that a medical professional must provide care. But this can be done with a minimum of interaction.

[get the red out]

10. I've arrived

They need to be PUBLICLY SCORNED!

[Caliman73]

11. Think of it this way.

Trump, Pence, SHS, Miller, Nielsen, etc... spend their time thinking about how to disrupt or destroy all of the policies and social norms that have been made to correct the injustices in America's past. All of the exclusion acts, discriminatory economic policies, gender and race based segregation and oppression. Those things have been the work of modern Democrats, and they have not always gone smoothly, but Democrats of the modern age, 1940's onward are the only party which really pushed for the policies that lessened inequality and decreased hunger and poverty, that provided legal protections to historically oppressed groups.

Those changes have been under attack since Nixon's presidency, even though Nixon knew well enough to compromise and throw in some safeguards like the EPA, and to protect our drinking water. The new conservative movement grew up in earnest during the Reagan administration and has been on a trajectory to Trump ever since.

Trump and his followers are intentionally destroying all of the programs that have created the civil society that we enjoy at this point in our history. They call on a daily basis, Mexican people and other Latino immigrants, animals while they go out to enjoy Mexican food, thinking that what they are doing is perfectly acceptable. They intentionally change policies that take babies out of their parent's arms inflicting massive Attachment Trauma that will have long lasting, devastating effects on those children and then go out to eat as if nothing is wrong.

We need to let them know that there in fact IS something wrong with what they are doing. We aren't protesting or kicking them out of restaurants because they are women, gay, Black, Christian, or any other point of their being. We are telling them that monsters who hurt people should not be out in the civil society they are actively trying to destroy, as if nothing is wrong.

[bluedigger]

12. If you are a public advocate for injustice, you should be prepared for public opprobrium.

There's no point to being nice to bad people.

[meadowlander]

23. If you use your public office and public paycheck to lie to the public there will be consequences.

If you happen to work in an equally corrupt organistion that does not enforce basic ethical codes, then it is left to the general public to enforce them.

[The Wielding Truth]

13. Here's the difference. IMO, there are those of us who can see injustice and cruelty and those who

inflict it. It does not serve humanity to support self-centered bullies. If they are hurting innocent children and those seeking safety, they should not be given respect for using their power to deny help. It is not Christian or American to purposefully treat those in need harshly.

When those who hurt others intentionally are in your company you should call them out and make them realize that we, the people of a democratically responsible civilization, will not accept or condone their actions.

[Phoenix61]

15. Why should they eat in peace?

They shouldn't. Rep Maxine Waters is right. They brought this on themselves. Heck, the ones who have already left this admin are whining about not being able to get a job. They have been shunned in the job market. I see no reason not to shun them everywhere else.

[bdamomma]

17. I would have loved to shun Paul Ryan

and Mitch McConnell. They deserve shunning.

[DeminPennswoods]

24. Free market capitalism in action!

Why don't they love that?

[workinclasszero]

26. They should have the 'peace' of a two year old Mexican baby crying for her mother inside her cage!

They should have the 'peace' they hand out to their victims everyday of their lives!

Trump/GOP is setting up a dictatorship that imprisons innocent children. He is building a vast gulag right here on US military bases.

To smile at these people and treat them like decent human beings is to agree with what they are doing IMO. RESIST!

Not to mention the gutting of Social Security, Medicare,Medicaid, food assistance, HUD housing, CHIP, meals on wheels even FFS!

And TRILLIONS robbed from the American public to be handed over to the filthy rich 1%!

The Trump cult is EVIL!

RESIST!

[bdamomma]

16. this trump cult

cannot think for themselves, but they are quick to scorn and call the Police on a 8 yr old, scorn a Dr. who is Black, throwing out two black men in Starbucks cause they did not buy anything. Racial profiling? Racist tendencies? yes to that and more.

These people have issues within themselves not tolerant of other cultures and creeds, they are being told how to think by the continuous onslaught of misinformation and lies by the media and the POS. He(Trump) keeps on lying and they believe him. You cannot get through to people like this. So what if we become a predominant white society we are not Sweden, these people feel like they are victimized, like the brown people and anyone who is different is out to get them. Then they called themselves Christians rather delusional isn't it? Well we have a pig racist as a squatter in the WH and a republican party who are his accomplices/treasonous and really don't give a crap.

[gratuitous]

18. Consider the power dynamic

Who is a mere citizen, and who is a high up governmental official with the power and the prestige (yeah, I know) of the federal government backing her up? It usually helps to clarify these things when one thinks about who holds the power in a dispute. At the very least, it sometimes leads to the spectacle of military officers complaining about "asymmetrical warfare tactics" when his prisoners try to starve themselves to death rather than continue to endure indefinite imprisonment without charge, counsel, or trial.

[lunatica]

19. They all ate anywhere they wanted to before they vocally expressed support

for Trump’s policy to terrorizing refugees seeking asylum by tearing children from their parents.

Suddenly eateries and other establishments are refusing them service.

And yet, people on our side actually object to this kind of peaceful resistance. Go figure.

Why should we condone what they do? Because like the good Germans we should support our Great Leader?

[G_j]

20. Ironically

Sanders has to know she is nothing more than a mouthpiece for lies. Good luck with that. History will be a whole lot harsher on you than any restaurant.

[DeminPennswoods]

22. Not the least bit conflicted

These are very bad, even evil, people. They should be shunned, boo'd, hissed at, harassed as much as possible. They need to understand the error of their ways and that sincerely repudiating what they believe is the only way even to start reclaiming their souls, let alone lives.

[ProfessorGAC]

25. Depends On How You Define It

None of the recent incidents involve "mere" deplorables.

They involve people who WORK for the administration. That's a whole different ball of wax. These people aren't like you and me. They are actively working to promote and foment this "deplorable" agenda.

And, they are paid by taxpayers. A mountain of difference, to me.

[Squinch]

27. Aren't they the ones that say people can refuse to serve

gay people for religious reasons? How is this different? My religion forbids the decimation of families and the jailing of children for no reason.

[tulipsandroses]

29. Thats the thing that I don't get-

They cherry pick the parts of the Bible they want to use. the Bible is filled with verses regarding immigrants and how they should be treated. There was lots of migration during biblical times so of course the Bible addresses immigration But noooo none of this matters to Trumpstains.

Leviticus 19:33-34 and 24:22 – When the alien resides with you in your land, you shall not oppress the alien. The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.”

[snowybirdie]

28. I'm already forgotten

Focus instead on children in a U.S. concentration camp. Deplorables want to keep this going so we won't think about what's going on at the border

[Voltaire2]

30. Resist fascism.

[Va Lefty]

31. This is the dumbest news cycle since the great tan suit kerfuffle. May we please have another?

[Raven123]

32. I think it's ok to shun those who demonize and demean anyone who disagrees with them

[MFM008]

33. It isn't just "disagree"

These are Russian promoted LIARS actively working on destroying our planet, our democracy, our health and our way of life.
Sorry if turning our backs on them gives anyone
Heartburn.

[Thekaspervote]

34. It's a knee jerk visceral reaction to respond with such ire over this kind of abuse

One is sickened in heart and soul. Okay, they want to quote the Bible or tell stories, did Jesus not kick over tables in the temple when he saw how the house of the lord was being abused? Of course dotard and shs don’t see it that way because they have no heart or soul

[displacedtexan]

35. My mind was made up when That Wilson moron yelled, "You lie!" At President Obama

at that joint session of congress. I'm just sorry no one had the guts to yell back, "Fuck you, asshole, and the horse you rode in on."

We're living in the American version of the rising reich. The only difference I see is the fact that our free press hasn't been destroyed yet. We can't keep quiet anymore.

[RandomAccess]

36. You mean shunning fascists in public places??

That, IMO, is the proper framing for this.

And if you're referring to Huckabee Sanders, she wasn't shunned because of being a Trump follower, but for her -- well, fascism. Her lies and gaslighting, specifically. Her demeaning of Democrats and terrible treatment of the press.

Almost forgot -- Cjharles P. Pierce speaks for me

[AmandaRuth]

37. The stealing of the children

Brings this to a different level. IMHO.