The numbers of children separated and reunited aren't adding up.

[suffragette]

Anyone else notice that the numbers of children separated from parents don’t seem to be adding up?

Especially when compared to those supposedly reunited and what then would be the ones who are still being held alone.

From NPR last week:

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/19/621065383/what-we-know-family-separation-and-zero-tolerance-at-the-border

Since early May, 2,342 children have been separated from their parents after crossing the Southern U.S. border, according to the Department of Homeland Security, as part of a new immigration strategy by the Trump administration that has prompted widespread outcry.U.S. border, according to the Department of Homeland Security, as part of a new immigration strategy by the Trump administration that has prompted widespread outcry.

From NBC today:

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/where-s-my-kid-texas-border-desperate-parents-turn-attorneys-n886181

DHS said late Saturday that more than 2,000 children have been reunited with parents. More were expected before the weekend is up. Officials said Port Isabel would be its reunification center.

[Trek4Truth]

1. All I know for sure is they lie about everything day and night. So as predicted when they want or

need to be believed they will not be. This is a good case in point.

[Historic NY]

2. Exactly

[peggysue2]

3. I don't believe any of this

They've spread these kids all over the country without a system of identification and no thought to reunification.

I agree with Michael Avenatti. The only way to ensure parents and kids are reunited is to have a single staging area, the sooner the better. The longer this crisis goes on, the more likely this children end up lost in the system.

The Republicans and the Trumpsters cannot lie their way out of this mess. They'll try but it will not succeed.

[bdamomma]

4. I don't believe

500 were reunited more lies to BS the American people.

[Igel]

5. Hard to tell without looking at some sort of reconciliation.

Some kids were separated and still held by DHS. Others were turned over the HHS.

One article's from 6/19. The other's supposedly current as of 6/23.

One number deals with the number of children separated over a specific time span; the actual number is larger. The other talks about the number of children without regard to when they were separated, which would be based on the larger number.

In some cases you don't expect the parents to be reunited with their kids. The kids would have been entrusted to relatives as their legal guardians, and it'll be a more complicated process to undoing the legality involved in establishing a guardianship and transferring control back to the parents. And in some cases--how many is unknowable by us--parents may have been deported already, so reuniting them in the US would be harder.

We need simple numbers that all line up in order to overcome the ill will, but the situation's complicated and messy and I'd be more concerned if the numbers all lined up in a simple way. It's like a high school chemistry lab--if you get the predicted results in a lab report, you know the kid's cheated because given the nature of the activity and the systematic biases in the lab set up perfection is impossible.

[lark]

6. I have seen the # of 500 reunifications being given by govt reps several times late last week.

They went from 500 to 2000 in 3 days, 2 of which were weekend days when most government workers and courts are off or closed???

I don't believe it for 1 second, it's just another lie.

[TomSlick]

7. The problem is that Trump and his administration has lied so often they cannot believed on anything.

This is a serious problem. When there is some emergency and the government needs to rely important information, they simply will not be believed.

Putting aside the specific things that have been lied about, the habitual lying is its own problem.

[Squinch]

8. Lying Nazi sacks of shit.