Immigration judge insists 3yr old children are capable of learning law and representing themselves

[sunonmars]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5880063/Immigration-judge-insists-3-year-olds-represent-court.html

A longtime immigration judge is under fire after he insisted that three-year-old children were capable of learning the law and representing themselves in court.

Senior Justice Department official Jack H Weil made the shocking claims while giving testimony during a court case regarding whether immigrant children should be given taxpayer-funded attorneys.

'I've taught immigration law literally to three-year-olds and four-year-olds,' he said. 'It takes a lot of time. It takes a lot of patience. They get it.'

'It's not the most efficient, but it can be done.'

Weil repeated the claim again during his deposition, saying: 'I've told you I have trained three-year-olds and four-year-olds in immigration law.'

'You can do a fair hearing,' he added. 'It's going to take a lot of time.'

The Justice Department quickly distanced itself from Weir's comments and said that he was 'speaking in a personal capacity'.

'At no time has the Department indicated that three and four-year-olds are capable of representing themselves,' Lauren Alder Reid, a spokeswoman for the Executive Office for Immigration Review, told the Washington Post.

'Jack Weil was speaking in a personal capacity and his statements, therefore, do not necessarily represent the views of EOIR or the Department of Justice.'

Reid added that Weil's comments must be 'taken in context as part of a four hour deposition'.

'Mr Weil spoke about various techniques, procedures, and safeguards that can be employed by immigration judges, as warranted, to provide fundamentally fair hearings to all respondents in immigration proceedings,' she said.

Weil told the Post that his statements were 'taken out of context' and don't 'present an accurate assessment of my views on this topic'.

The American Civil Liberties Union is suing the Justice Department, Department of Homeland Security, and Department of Health and Human Services.

Link to tweet

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This idiot needs a good slap, a 3 yr old can barely tie its own shoelaces.....

[ck4829]

1. Did he like confuse reality with a dream? Maybe a cartoon?

The toddler you were teaching law; was her name Maggie Simpson?

[HuskyOffset]

16. He taught the law to . . .

. . . some kid named Stewie Griffin and his doggie Brian. Purely average kid & dog.

[TheBlackAdder]

39. "A man who is his own lawyer has a fool for a client" Judge doesn't want foreign 4yo outwitting him?

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He has to have 3yo kids represent themselves.

That kind of shows how incompetent the judge is. Fearful of real lawyers, and needs kids to challenge.

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[world wide wally]

2. Another insane old racist joins Team Trump

[Jim__]

3. Maybe they can understand the law as well as he does.

But, that's just a reflection on him, not on them.

[Solly Mack]

4. Damn

[0rganism]

5. could Donald Trump learn immigration law?

so far, i don't see any sign that he understands it at all.

[tblue37]

6. Most 3-year-olds can't ties their own shoes. In fact, they usually can't even

get them on the right feet at that age.

[TNNurse]

7. This guy needs to be evaluated for his mental state.

I think he requires adult supervision. He is clearly not functioning as a rational adult.

[benld74]

8. And I only thought $170k / year

Idiots worked in the Executive branch.
Damn! Wrong again!

[Buns_of_Fire]

9. "Objection, your highness." "Grounds?" "The plaintiff is a big ol' poopiehead." nt

[CanonRay]

10. Potty train, maybe

legal training? Are you fucking kidding me? They can't even freaking read. What a damn moron.

[BigmanPigman]

11. OK, and I believe the earth is flat.

[Me.]

12. Especially If They Can't Understand English

is there a pic of this guy, can't find one

[ggmac0427]

13. Get real

Some 3 yr olds are still in diapers. They definitely cannot read or write. It's commonly accepted children don't reach "the age of reason" until 7 years of age.

Capable of learning the law and representing themselves? Give me a f--king break.

[Grins]

24. Seven? Sometimes in their 20's!!!

[TrogL]

34. I deal with people in their 40's who cannot think their way out of a paper bag

[NBachers]

14. I suggest we replace this guy with a three or four year old judge.

[CharleyDog]

15. What "Judge" jack means is:

What this "judge" means is:

"do you understand, you monstrous 3 year old, that if YOU DON'T BEHAVE we're going to send you back to your home country to be killed?"

child nods, while crying and sucking her thumb.

and later...

"OK, you didn't behave like we told you, so now you understand we're sending you back to your shithole country where you will be killed."

child nods, "I want my mommy."

judge: "see, she understands plenty."

[Stuart G]

17. Are you ready?....this guy was around a long time....He was training people in 2016

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/can-a-3-year-old-represent-herself-in-immigration-court-this-judge-thinks-so/2016/03/03/5be59a32-db25-11e5-925f-1d10062cc82d_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a7bb7f3214ab

This story from March 2016 (link is above) .....claims that this fellow trains other judges...

"Weil is not just any immigration official. As an assistant chief immigration judge in EOIR’s Office of the Chief Immigration Judge — which sets and oversees policies for the nation’s 58 immigration courts — he is responsible for coordinating the Justice Department’s training of immigration judges."

[Jerry Can]

18. Let's check it out.

A three-year-old thinks he is the center of the universe, Trump also.
A three-year-old must have everything his way, or he gets upset, again Trump qualifies.
Three-year-olds experience difficulty separating truth from fantasy, Trump never learned the trick.
Three-year-olds, whether coloring, thinking or behaving themselves have difficulty staying within the lines, Trump shares this difficulty.
Three-year-olds have a hard time remembering to speak with their inside voice, Trump never learned the trick.
A three-year-old tends to fall asleep listening to boring information, trump, also.
Three-year-olds occasionally embarrass themselves through inappropriate urination. That's how Trump got into difficulty in the first place.

I see trouble ahead.

[SammyWinstonJack]

23. LOL!

[NastyRiffraff]

19. So, all the immigration lawyers who actually studied law,

you wasted your time! You could have learned it all at three years old without all that boring studying and passing all those exams.

[Stuart G]

20. This article is from the American Bar Association about this, it is dated March 4, 2016

Hit this link and you can see this story is over 2 years old. I have been trying to find out if this judge is still at the Justice Department. Some articles say he is still there. I don't know, but this did happen 2 years and 3 months ago...

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/immigration_judge_said_some_4_year_olds_dont_need_lawyers

[riversedge]

28. 2 years ago. Thanks.

[lambchopp59]

21. This is not normal, there's no place like home, there's no place like home.

Fuck. Clicked my heels together and Frump's still president.

[Jerry Can]

38. Cause there's simply no Rube Goldberg pocket watch that can substitute for Trump's brain.

I know! I know! What brain?

[pazzyanne]

22. Suurre he did.

And I have a bridge in the Mohave desert that I would like to sell anyone who believes that you can teach law to three year olds who are still learning the language.

[BumRushDaShow]

25. "a 3 yr old can barely tie its own shoelaces....."

I know no 3 year old who could tie any shoelaces. In fact most of the shoes for that set use velcro straps if they are not slip-ons. Maybe when the are about 5...

Better analogy might be a 3 year old putting on their own socks (well... cause they like to take them off no matter where they are)!

[dewsgirl]

33. I can 1000% back up this comment. My DIL is a preschool

Teacher and she also agrees 3yo's very rarely can tie their own shoes. My youngest son couldn't until he was 6.

[TrogL]

35. I'm 63 and the damn things won't stay tied

[BumRushDaShow]

36. Velcro baby velcro! LOL

(I have almost said f-it and go on and buy some walking shoes with velcro straps. )

[flibbitygiblets]

26. Maybe we should get those kids a job representing Donald Trump...couldn't be worse than Guliani

Seriously WTF is wrong with these people?

Does he believe American children can also represent themselves in court?

"Hey there, little Donald Junior Junior, I see you are charged with killing endangered animals. How do you plead?"

[riversedge]

27. I kept reading, hoping to see it was the ONION! damn

[bdamomma]

29. is this judge

a tRump supporter??? Stupid ass.

[Iliyah]

30. This has to be a joke.

[rickford66]

31. Then they should get jobs.

Once they earn a few Billion, Trump will welcome them into the country.

[jayschool2013]

32. I need your help

I'm trying to remember a popular phrase that would be the perfect response to this crapulent fascist.

I know it starts with "Fuck" and ends with "You."

Any help? Thanks.

[Gothmog]

37. This idiot needs to be disbarred

[KentuckyWoman]

40. There is no chance of justice

The coldhearted unfeeling caliber of the people running the immigration courts is an embarrassment.